VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.6.2b] [digi.B]

[JM24]

Just finished playing all six episodes. Here are some of my thoughts:

Best gal: Kindra
Best doggo: Koko
Cutest thing ever: Artemis
Weirdest event/storyline: the bj competition at the sorority

Sex scenes are pretty mid, too short and lack spice but honestly Idc coz I came for a fap but am now staying for the plot.

 

[Fantaldebert]

Sex scenes are pretty mid, too short and lack spice but honestly Idc coz I came for a fap but am now staying for the plot.

Let's be honest. Sex scenes are bad. At this point, there could be a fade out to post coitum small talk instead of uninspired sex frames and bland dialogs. Many other recent games are doing a far better job to spice unrealistic gym-sex-kata with articulated witty-passionate sex talk. (I think we can't give name per forum rules). It's a bit of a let down.

And that's a shame because the flirts are trully good, the romancing (Reina dinner for exemple) is great, the sexual tension is here.

It seems like sex scenes aren't really the focus of this porn visual novel. And that's okay because the story is awesome and (non sex) dialogs cut deep. The game is an odd maverick in F95.

 

[Shinceraderi]

Let's be honest. Sex scenes are bad. At this point, there could be a fade out to post coitum small talk instead of uninspired sex frames and bland dialogs. Many other recent games are doing a far better job to spice unrealistic gym-sex-kata with articulated witty-passionate sex talk. (I think we can't give name per forum rules). It's a bit of a let down.

And that's a shame because the flirts are trully good, the romancing (Reina dinner for exemple) is great, the sexual tension is here.

It seems like sex scenes aren't really the focus of this porn visual novel. And that's okay because the story is awesome and (non sex) dialogs cut deep. The game is an odd maverick in F95.

Hello. Does the game include any NTR or sharing content? I’m not a fan of these genres and would prefer to avoid games with such themes ..

 

[HornyyPussy]

Hello. Does the game include any NTR or sharing content? I’m not a fan of these genres and would prefer to avoid games with such themes ..

 

[JM24]

Let's be honest. Sex scenes are bad. At this point, there could be a fade out to post coitum small talk instead of uninspired sex frames and bland dialogs. Many other recent games are doing a far better job to spice unrealistic gym-sex-kata with articulated witty-passionate sex talk. (I think we can't give name per forum rules). It's a bit of a let down.

And that's a shame because the flirts are trully good, the romancing (Reina dinner for exemple) is great, the sexual tension is here.

It seems like sex scenes aren't really the focus of this porn visual novel. And that's okay because the story is awesome and (non sex) dialogs cut deep. The game is an odd maverick in F95.

Fr the dev can cut out all lewd content and I'll still play. The plot is that good. Cassandra's hatefuck scene is pretty well done though, but I didn't go that path.

 

[PervyParadox]

Let's be honest. Sex scenes are bad. At this point, there could be a fade out to post coitum small talk instead of uninspired sex frames and bland dialogs. Many other recent games are doing a far better job to spice unrealistic gym-sex-kata with articulated witty-passionate sex talk. (I think we can't give name per forum rules). It's a bit of a let down.

And that's a shame because the flirts are trully good, the romancing (Reina dinner for exemple) is great, the sexual tension is here.

It seems like sex scenes aren't really the focus of this porn visual novel. And that's okay because the story is awesome and (non sex) dialogs cut deep. The game is an odd maverick in F95.

It wasn't that bad until the last update, and I feel like it's at least partly because of the change of software (from Daz to Blender). Because I remember two awesome scenes with June a long time ago (don't remember the updates), and comparing those scenes to her scene in the last update kinda hurt.

Paradoxically, while all the cockblocking is also making some scenes very frustrating in the last update (issue that has been discussed here before), the decrease in quality for the sex scenes are making this issue kind of tolerable. Although, I'm not sure this is by design, it's more like two weak points of the game balancing each other in a weird way.

So yeah, the story is awesome, but the poor branching management concerning romances (leading to frustration), and the decreased quality of the sex scene are kind of making this game less enjoyable for me (and I'm sure I'm not the only one).

Personnally, I don't think "that's okay". It kinda "tarnishes" the game a little bit. Not enough for me to stop playing it or anything, but enough to be mentionned and aknowledged (and boy do I wish Digi B will aknowledge those two issues and try to correct them).

 

[mike12013]

poor branching management concerning romances

For me, I don't mind it, it makes sense, it's just communicated poorly and inconsistent. For example, if Paige said to you directly
"I enjoy spending time with you, but I don't want anything more. Zelda is really into you, and she doesn't do Romance so I don't want to get in her way", it'd make a lot more sense. It should've been telegraphed a lot earlier too "I get on really well with the INK Girls, i need to be careful someone doesn't get hurt." I think the game needs to be clearer whether the girls are happy just fucking, or want something more.

Ultimately, it's not a harem game, it's a path based game so you won't be able to see all the content at once, it is what it is.

For me, the H scenes in the new chapter were just disappointing, you spend the entire game building points with Reina, or Paige, or Kindra, then its over in 30 seconds. I didn't even mind the quality, just the actual content.

 

[JM24]

For me, I don't mind it, it makes sense, it's just communicated poorly and inconsistent. For example, if Paige said to you directly
"I enjoy spending time with you, but I don't want anything more. Zelda is really into you, and she doesn't do Romance so I don't want to get in her way", it'd make a lot more sense. It should've been telegraphed a lot earlier too "I get on really well with the INK Girls, i need to be careful someone doesn't get hurt." I think the game needs to be clearer whether the girls are happy just fucking, or want something more.

Ultimately, it's not a harem game, it's a path based game so you won't be able to see all the content at once, it is what it is.

For me, the H scenes in the new chapter were just disappointing, you spend the entire game building points with Reina, or Paige, or Kindra, then its over in 30 seconds. I didn't even mind the quality, just the actual content.

The parts with the sorority are always the most skippable for me. From the BJ contest to the dates with each of them depending on players' choice they all seem pretty detached from the main story. Obviously Reina's rejection of Aiden after the interview is very integral to the main plot coz it leads to Kindra's hiring Aiden but other than that the other girls are just a bit random. But maybe the plan is to recruit them to be part of Kapuletti's Industries, just like Reina has already got in touch with Kindra and Aiden will have a whole harem to himself at the end.

 

[mike12013]

The parts with the sorority are always the most skippable for me. From the BJ contest to the dates with each of them depending on players' choice they all seem pretty detached from the main story. Obviously Reina's rejection of Aiden after the interview is very integral to the main plot coz it leads to Kindra's hiring Aiden but other than that the other girls are just a bit random. But maybe the plan is to recruit them to be part of Kapuletti's Industries, just like Reina has already got in touch with Kindra and Aiden will have a whole harem to himself at the end.

It feels like the story was planned around Kindra and maybe June, and the rest of the sorority girls were added on to add more LIs to me, but a few of them (Reina/Paige/Zelda) stand on their own two feet now so I don't mind so much.

The BJ contest feels so out of place in the game, you couldn't show me that scene, and then something from the recent chapter and convince me it's the same game

 

[JM24]

The BJ contest feels so out of place in the game, you couldn't show me that scene, and then something from the recent chapter and convince me it's the same game

100%. I thought I was playing another cheap copy of Being A Dik up till that point. It was so unnecessary and could have easily been replaced with something more sensible. But everything about Kindra and her story line is so good. When she introduced Artemis to Aiden for the first time I was like "oh shiiiiit".

 

[Fuzzy Nuts J]

Fr the dev can cut out all lewd content and I'll still play. The plot is that good.

I wouldnt go THAT far, but yes 100% S-Tier.

Cassandra's hatefuck scene is pretty well done though, but I didn't go that path.

I never do the hatefuck either, my cannon is the fantasy fucked her through the window. #feelsguud

 

[Anteron]

With Cuntsandra I got her to agree to the hatefuck and then was like - LULNOPE.

 

[PervyParadox]

For me, I don't mind it, it makes sense, it's just communicated poorly and inconsistent. For example, if Paige said to you directly
"I enjoy spending time with you, but I don't want anything more. Zelda is really into you, and she doesn't do Romance so I don't want to get in her way", it'd make a lot more sense. It should've been telegraphed a lot earlier too "I get on really well with the INK Girls, i need to be careful someone doesn't get hurt." I think the game needs to be clearer whether the girls are happy just fucking, or want something more.

Ultimately, it's not a harem game, it's a path based game so you won't be able to see all the content at once, it is what it is.

For me, the H scenes in the new chapter were just disappointing, you spend the entire game building points with Reina, or Paige, or Kindra, then its over in 30 seconds. I didn't even mind the quality, just the actual content.

Well yeah, that's the issue. It should be telegraphed a lot even right now. Like, even Kindra make a joke about MC wanting them all, then there's an entire evening with Reina, sexual tension build up and all, and then BAM fade out to next scene. Go jerk off on your own, loser.

There's tons of moments where Digi could have told, through MC or even Reina or whoever else, that it wasn't going to happen. Have Reina clearly thinking MC as a friend. Have the MC think about he'd rather sit this one out because things are starting to get more serious with this girl or this girl. Hell, have MC think "that variable set up 4 updates ago is True so there's no chance of me banging her now" BEFORE letting us decide if we want the date or not.

It's fine to have a good friendly evening (they also talk business after all) IF you make it clear that's what it is (especially true in an erotic VN). I honestly wouldn't mind personnally. I said it before but spending time with the girls as friends would be totally fine by me. It's just a matter of being clear about it (like you said, poor communication ingame concerning the romances).

Yes, I'm still salty about Reina (in case it doesn't show). Although it's the same for the others. Katy, Paige, hell even DK.

But anyway, I've definitely learned my lesson. I'll have to accept to friendzone (and be friendzoned by) all the INK girls (and DK probably), because ain't no way I'm not romancing Koko Kindra and June (and maybe Artemis if Digi grant us the possibility without ruining things with Kindra and June, fingers crossed).

And yeah the H scenes were bad in the last update, but I understand this issue more. Like I said it's probably because Digi is using Blender instead of Daz now I think so it's understandable. Although I really do hope we can go back to the same quality as the scenes from previous updates, because some of them were fire.

Anyway, that was the rant of the day. Have a good one, people.

 

[qvcatullus]

Well yeah, that's the issue. It should be telegraphed a lot even right now. Like, even Kindra make a joke about MC wanting them all, then there's an entire evening with Reina, sexual tension build up and all, and then BAM fade out to next scene. Go jerk off on your own, loser.

There's tons of moments where Digi could have told, through MC or even Reina or whoever else, that it wasn't going to happen. Have Reina clearly thinking MC as a friend. Have the MC think about he'd rather sit this one out because things are starting to get more serious with this girl or this girl. Hell, have MC think "that variable set up 4 updates ago is True so there's no chance of me banging her now" BEFORE letting us decide if we want the date or not.

It's fine to have a good friendly evening (they also talk business after all) IF you make it clear that's what it is (especially true in an erotic VN). I honestly wouldn't mind personnally. I said it before but spending time with the girls as friends would be totally fine by me. It's just a matter of being clear about it (like you said, poor communication ingame concerning the romances).

Yes, I'm still salty about Reina (in case it doesn't show).

Now I'm curious -- are you saying that you did the Reina date but didn't get a naughty scene because of a path conflict? I didn't think there was a path conflict yet, even though the scrappy mod indicated that there might be one coming.

There's definitely a moment where Paige will wave off if you have a flag for taking Zelda to the airport, IIRC, but I think if Reina shot you down it must be a missing flag or insufficient relationship points with her. I could be wrong, but as I understand it, it's not an issue of a path conflict for her (yet -- I think we'll see more path conflicts moving forward to make us narrow things down if MC intends to get serious).

 

[PervyParadox]

Now I'm curious -- are you saying that you did the Reina date but didn't get a naughty scene because of a path conflict? I didn't think there was a path conflict yet, even though the scrappy mod indicated that there might be one coming.

There's definitely a moment where Paige will wave off if you have a flag for taking Zelda to the airport, IIRC, but I think if Reina shot you down it must be a missing flag or insufficient relationship points with her. I could be wrong, but as I understand it, it's not an issue of a path conflict for her (yet -- I think we'll see more path conflicts moving forward to make us narrow things down if MC intends to get serious).

Well I have a pretty high score with her considering I'm using a mod and hit most if not all the +Reina choices available, and her bio said "interested" so it must be a path conflict (or maybe a missing flag, I really don't know because, well, as I said it's not very clear in the game itself).

I think I've read somewhere in this thread that kissing Kindra on stage during the halloween party fuck up a lot of scenes, but I didn't take the time to check out the files so really I don't know. I did kiss her on stage so this could explain that.

Anyway, I'm over it. No more expectations from the INK girls for me. I'll enjoy the occasionnal friendly scenes if it happens.

 

[Fantaldebert]

Anyway, I'm over it. No more expectations from the INK girls for me. I'll enjoy the occasionnal friendly scenes if it happens.

To me, that's the fatal limitation of Exclusive Love Interest in VN. It's hard to keep a good writing, compeling story, depth of character if MC is a manwhore jumping on every thing with a pulse and collecting girls like TCG. The solution would be Exclusive Love Interest (or triangle) and definitive choices closing the route of other LI. In practice, that's a lot of work for the Dev, creating lots of timelines and pathing routes for the player to only explore one at a time.
Another playthrough could focus on another ELI but....... only once you have finished the game and reached your happy (or soppy) ending with the first ELI. But VN on F95 are always in progress, completions take year. I, for one, can't wait X years for the game to be completed by playing only one path.
Here come either the multipath mod, the branching path multi save (with smart labeling) or the UMP.
So I am living in multiverse of // paths and different ELI. I both kissed and didn't kiss Kindra during the party. I went to the museum with one girl and to a dinner date with Reina at the same time. Paige has no recollection of me driving Zelda to the airport.
It's unsatisfying and I feel like I'm betraying the vision of the author. On the other hand, my favorite girl being Zelda and seeing as she has near zero content this chapter, I would have two years between revelant content.
There is no perfect solution.

 

[FRVN]

I think I've read somewhere in this thread that kissing Kindra on stage during the halloween party fuck up a lot of scenes, but I didn't take the time to check out the files so really I don't know. I did kiss her on stage so this could explain that.

Yes, the DJ Kink kiss locks out the Paige and Reina scenes, and it also impacts Zelda and Naomi.

 

[Maccabbee]

Yes, the DJ Kink kiss locks out the Paige and Reina scenes, and it also impacts Zelda and Naomi.

It's pretty common sense, though, isn't it? Kissing a famous celebrity in front of all the other LIs is a pretty clear signal to them that you are interested in someone that they see as above their league. The fact that she doesn't deck you means that she probably reciprocates.

(edit: not sure why it cut off my comment, but...)

 

[mike12013]

To me, that's the fatal limitation of Exclusive Love Interest in VN. It's hard to keep a good writing, compeling story, depth of character if MC is a manwhore jumping on every thing with a pulse and collecting girls like TCG. The solution would be Exclusive Love Interest (or triangle) and definitive choices closing the route of other LI. In practice, that's a lot of work for the Dev, creating lots of timelines and pathing routes for the player to only explore one at a time.
Another playthrough could focus on another ELI but....... only once you have finished the game and reached your happy (or soppy) ending with the first ELI. But VN on F95 are always in progress, completions take year. I, for one, can't wait X years for the game to be completed by playing only one path.
Here come either the multipath mod, the branching path multi save (with smart labeling) or the UMP.
So I am living in multiverse of // paths and different ELI. I both kissed and didn't kiss Kindra during the party. I went to the museum with one girl and to a dinner date with Reina at the same time. Paige has no recollection of me driving Zelda to the airport.
It's unsatisfying and I feel like I'm betraying the vision of the author. On the other hand, my favorite girl being Zelda and seeing as she has near zero content this chapter, I would have two years between revelant content.
There is no perfect solution.

I like how another game (that I can't mention due to rules) does it.

You date around, they know you date around, then the MC reelises that someone's gonna get hurt so he has to make a choice. You get a good chunk of content around each girl before you have to commit

 

[Fantaldebert]

I like how another game (that I can't mention due to rules) does it.

You date around, they know you date around, then the MC reelises that someone's gonna get hurt so he has to make a choice. You get a good chunk of content around each girl before you have to commit

Yep, and the dev made it very clear there would be different exclusive paths one chapter before the branching. And we had ample time (plus the summer story of childhood friend) to make different save.

But in the end, if you want to experience all the content, you have to build your harem over several save files. Is there anyone playing a strict single playthrough without visiting the different paths ?

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