Artix0

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Then the Mexicans wouldn't find the jokes funny?

But to be real localizations always have problems, there's some things that only make sense in the original language, and then there's those moments when the person responsible for the translation decides to improvise with their own words or bringing crap from real world into the game for no reason.

Fortunately I think that will not the case even if it's doesn't matter to me since I will play it in English anyway.
All true, I was more just making a joke that the person automatically assumed the Spanish translation would come from Mexico instead of from Spain itself :ROFLMAO: I assume both will have their advantages/disadvantages, but it just seemed like one of those 'America is the only place in the world' moments you so often see online (albeit in this case extended south across the border).
 
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It's the difference between strict translation versus localization. Localization can work, but it'll depend on what exactly is being localized. If you're watching a German movie or TV show that definitively takes place in Germany where you expect the characters to act and talk in a German fashion while engaging in German culture, the most you should probably do with your translation is take any German-specific phrases/slang that wouldn't make sense to a foreign audience and come up with something that gets approximately the same meaning across so that not everything is lost in translation; fully localizing what they say so that they speak as if they were, for example, native Mexicans with heavy accents and the vernacular that would come with that is likely going to make for a rather bizarre experience when the audience knows that everything about it should be German, so it's probably not a great idea.
Yeah I'd say this is the best way to go about it, and for certain phrases that don't really translate all that well I think they can even be kept in their original language sometimes (as long as the context is enough to get the meaning). Sort of like how a show filmed in Spain or Mexico could use 'tu puta madre' even in the English translation, and we'd get the meaning - but if you translated it directly and left it in the exact same place in the sentence, it wouldn't have quite the same effect.
 
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What if the Spanish translation were made by a Spanish person?
I disagree with the idea that mexican translations are bad but he is right when he says that they TEND to use a lot of very local terms. decades ago it wasn't like that, mexican translators used to be pretty neutral, using more general use terms and words.

Spanish translations TEND to be more neutral nowadays. There are still local terms but it happens less often. Our wording tend to be more boring in comparison, mexican spanish is much more juicy. Also, Mexicans speak better english than Spanish people. Pretty much everything gets translated in Spain, if it isn't, people won't take a look at it. It HAS to be translated. Mexicans can deal with weirder wording because of their better understanding of English language.
 

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I disagree with the idea that mexican translations are bad but he is right when he says that they TEND to use a lot of very local terms. decades ago it wasn't like that, mexican translators used to be pretty neutral, using more general use terms and words.

Spanish translations TEND to be more neutral nowadays. There are still local terms but it happens less often. Our wording tend to be more boring in comparison, mexican spanish is much more juicy. Also, Mexicans speak better english than Spanish people. Pretty much everything gets translated in Spain, if it isn't, people won't take a look at it. It HAS to be translated. Mexicans can deal with weirder wording because of their better understanding of English language.
Just say "I am a Mexican" and no one will blame you. I am not against mexicans, but hey, when a peruano or colombiano translates comics or whatever else they are 100% neutral, not like the mexicans.
 
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So is 1.0 going to have the full story? been a while since I played 0.31 but it felt like there was A LOT of story left to go. I hope its a case of just a massive update and not a rushed ending.

Also, can someone explain the "extra scenes" bit in the main post? are these scenes added with 0.31? I cannot see any scene titled "breeding kiki" for example, and I have unlocked all of her scenes. Also, some of monsters like the fallen angel don't show up in my melkors realm journal. I don't think i've ever come across the tank either.
 
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Yeah I'm genuinely curious how much or if they expanded the story at all past just fucking the mom. Every side character basically has a finale in 0.31, even the dungeon crawler mini-game. I don't recall many loose ends, but it's been over a year, so who knows.
 

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So is 1.0 going to have the full story? been a while since I played 0.31 but it felt like there was A LOT of story left to go. I hope its a case of just a massive update and not a rushed ending.

Also, can someone explain the "extra scenes" bit in the main post? are these scenes added with 0.31? I cannot see any scene titled "breeding kiki" for example, and I have unlocked all of her scenes. Also, some of monsters like the fallen angel don't show up in my melkors realm journal. I don't think i've ever come across the tank either.
That's the plan even if the game sells well the dev might add some extra content to it, now I really doubt about the "A LOT of story left to go" I really don't think that is the case. Now that doesn't mean you can't get more stuff than you had in the latest version tho most of the changes in the v1.0 are the many "static scenes" that will now be animated instead.

The if I remember correctly where unlocked in the gallery after meeting certain requirements and they could only be played in the gallery but now apparently they will be integrated in the story in v1.0.

I believe the reason why some monsters don't appear in the gallery is just they never got integrated on it before the dev decided to work in version 1.0 and since no more versions got released since them they are still to be added to it, about the tank I'm almost sure I found at least one before but it's either pretty rare or only shows in some specific situations,
 

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If you mean in a "legal" way then probably not so it will depend on if another member buys it and then "leak" it here.
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Yes... of course... in a legal way... as ever we do...
i wasn't really questioning if it's going to be added to F95, i know we are getting it eventually, i was more curious whether it will be merged with this thread or a new one will be made, considering that it sounds like the game will be different.
 

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i wasn't really questioning if it's going to be added to F95, i know we are getting it eventually, i was more curious whether it will be merged with this thread or a new one will be made, considering that it sounds like the game will be different.
Don't know what made you think the game will be that different, to me if feels more like a "Definitive" and "Complete" edition than a new game, with more content, accessibility options, more languages, some changes to the plot and gameplay and more optimized than before that's all (I can be wrong obvious).

It's definitely will be put here tho and not in a different thread, I'm pretty sure of that because even for other game that got "remade" (in a new engine and a very different way from the original) they still got posted in the same original thread.

And if the v1.0 ends up being really that different from the latest version we have here, then they will create a "Older version(s)" section in the original post for whoever wants to download and try them out.
 

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i wasn't really questioning if it's going to be added to F95, i know we are getting it eventually, i was more curious whether it will be merged with this thread or a new one will be made, considering that it sounds like the game will be different.
I am not 100% sure, but probably the new version will be merged in thia post. If not, it would be an stupid idea.
 

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That's the plan even if the game sells well the dev might add some extra content to it, now I really doubt about the "A LOT of story left to go" I really don't think that is the case. Now that doesn't mean you can't get more stuff than you had in the latest version tho most of the changes in the v1.0 are the many "static scenes" that will now be animated instead.

The if I remember correctly where unlocked in the gallery after meeting certain requirements and they could only be played in the gallery but now apparently they will be integrated in the story in v1.0.

I believe the reason why some monsters don't appear in the gallery is just they never got integrated on it before the dev decided to work in version 1.0 and since no more versions got released since them they are still to be added to it, about the tank I'm almost sure I found at least one before but it's either pretty rare or only shows in some specific situations,
I may have missed something, but I do not recall dealing with Ivy and Scarlett'ss problems at all. According to the dragon Naamu, I have done all the content for Ivy and Scarlet. IIRC the last thing i did to help Ivy was give her a place to stay. I have also used the cheatcode that beats the game, and nothing more got added (there are 3 characters that are question marks in the journal, and several existing characters have scenes in the journal that are just question marks, even though I have done everything according to Naamu. So it seems like there is quite a bit of story left, unless i somehow missed a large part of it.

A commenter above mentioned a Mom of some kind. I did not meet Ivy's mother. The last thing i did that progressed her story was what unlocked the threesome scene. They are both sleeping in the same room now and I cannot see any options that advance the plot.
 

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I may have missed something, but I do not recall dealing with Ivy and Scarlett'ss problems at all. According to the dragon Naamu, I have done all the content for Ivy and Scarlet. IIRC the last thing i did to help Ivy was give her a place to stay. I have also used the cheatcode that beats the game, and nothing more got added (there are 3 characters that are question marks in the journal, and several existing characters have scenes in the journal that are just question marks, even though I have done everything according to Naamu. So it seems like there is quite a bit of story left, unless i somehow missed a large part of it.

A commenter above mentioned a Mom of some kind. I did not meet Ivy's mother. The last thing i did that progressed her story was what unlocked the threesome scene. They are both sleeping in the same room now and I cannot see any options that advance the plot.
The dragon Naamu tips are not up-to-date with all available content for the latest build, so "it" will tell you that there's nothing else to do for <insert character name here> even if more content may actually be available.

The last "2" characters with questions marks (If the third of them is the last one then it's supposed to remain a question mark anyway, in past build it turned into a heart and provided multiple extra scenes) correspond to the "Mom" (the Queen and Ivy's mom) and her maid.
You gain access to them in a new localization (The Manor) after speaking with a full heavy armour female knight in the main village (this character will appear there at some point after fulfilling some specific stuff, don't remember what precisely but it's related to Ivy, Scarlett or both, it maybe the secret event where you have dinner with Ivy or that one where you agree to help Scarlett in case they need to run away with Ivy).
 
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