Mod Ren'Py Completed Babysitter mod [final] [khumak]

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WhiteFireDaemon

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I have to agree with Abibliboop. Make a game that you enjoy with content that you like and you'll find fans out there. There's nothing wrong with trying to stretch yourself and learn new skills, but don't feel like you have to put in content that you don't like. People will like your game even if it isn't super raunchy or doesn't have this or that kink. Life with Mary is a great game and is VERY vanilla.
 
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Why this mini dick ? In the real game it's twice bigger. Do you have a complex ?
 

khumak

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From what I've enjoyed of your stuff so far, I would definitely say yes, you have skills and I think you could develop a game. If writing or plot concepts are something you struggle with you could probably partner up with someone who doesn't have your skills, although from what I've seen your scenes are nicely done and your dialogue feels natural so I don't think you'd have too many issues on that front.

As for doing NTR or other stuff for clients that you may not enjoy, I've always been of the view that if you don't enjoy making the content you shouldn't put it in. This doesn't mean don't do it if you want to (stretching yourself as a story teller and content creator is always a good thing), but as you pointed out regarding NTR, if you don't understand/enjoy those aspects it becomes really hard to create convincing scenarios that flow smoothly. Scenes that are added to pander to a specific crowd that a dev doesn't enjoy or want to do, usually don't feel/play right in my opinion. I'd much rather a dev create a game that only has content that makes them really excited to create as it typically shines through and helps with preventing discouragement or burnout.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. As far as "developing by request", I agree for the most part. I don't think it would work well to make a game you don't enjoy yourself. There are definitely some fetishes that I won't touch no matter how many requests there are for it.

NTR is a bit different for me since I view it as sort of a plot device for developing a legitimate adversary (for an adult game anyway). In most games that would mean someone you're going to fight and either win or lose against in combat or some other measure of success. In a porn game NTR kind of makes more sense for that. If you win, you get the girl(s). If you lose, they do. And for NTR fans, "winning" would mean losing on purpose.

So basically instead of having abrupt bad endings for bad choices your opponent would get some scenes with the girls you're trying to progress with. Ideally I would want that type of system to be a slow progression though. So a bad choice wouldn't mean your opponent suddenly starts fucking your girl/getting his dick sucked/etc, but would progress at least as slow as the MC could have progressed if he had made the right decisions. Maybe she invites him over for dinner/lunch initially and they just talk/etc and it only develops further if you continue to make bad decisions. So you could overcome the initial setback and still get the girl(s).

I have played some games with unavoidable NTR though and I definitely don't like that. I won't be doing that. I'll have to see what I think when I try to make some NTR scenes. Maybe I'll decide it just doesn't work for me. I suspect it may depend on how the "bad guy" character is developed. I think that's my issue with trying to do NTR for Babysitter. I really hate both Robert and Silver. I had the same sort of initial reaction to Eric in Big Brother.
 
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Abibliboop

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Thanks for the vote of confidence. As far as "developing by request", I agree for the most part. I don't think it would work well to make a game you don't enjoy yourself. There are definitely some fetishes that I won't touch no matter how many requests there are for it.

NTR is a bit different for me since I view it as sort of a plot device for developing a legitimate adversary (for an adult game anyway). In most games that would mean someone you're going to fight and either win or lose against in combat or some other measure of success. In a porn game NTR kind of makes more sense for that. If you win, you get the girl(s). If you lose, they do. And for NTR fans, "winning" would mean losing on purpose.

So basically instead of having abrupt bad endings for bad choices your opponent would get some scenes with the girls you're trying to progress with. Ideally I would want that type of system to be a slow progression though. So a bad choice wouldn't mean your opponent suddenly starts fucking your girl/getting his dick sucked/etc, but would progress at least as slow as the MC could have progressed if he had made the right decisions. Maybe she invites him over for dinner/lunch initially and they just talk/etc and it only develops further if you continue to make bad decisions. So you could overcome the initial setback and still get the girl(s).

I have played some games with unavoidable NTR though and I definitely don't like that. I won't be doing that. I'll have to see what I think when I try to make some NTR scenes. Maybe I'll decide it just doesn't work for me. I suspect it may depend on how the "bad guy" character is developed. I think that's my issue with trying to do NTR for Babysitter. I really hate both Robert and Silver. I had the same sort of initial reaction to Eric in Big Brother.
That actually makes a lot of sense and is a great reason to include it even if it isn't your thing. It definitely would make the world feel larger as opposed to you being the only guy on the planet. I'm just used to some where it is really hamhanded and not a more natural progression like you describe.
 

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I had some "RL issues" come up over the past few days so the update is not ready yet. Hopefully this week sometime though.
 

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I have my renders for the Hotel done now. Hoping to get the next release out in the next couple of days sometime. I really want to get cracking on redoing my day 10 hot tub event. Should be able to make some progress on it this month but I'm pretty sure I won't have that done til sometime in January. It'll be a lot of rendering and there will definitely be things happening in the new version that aren't in the current event since I don't have to rely on the vanilla images anymore.

I've also done some more thinking about how I want the Spa event to play out so I'm excited to get started on that as well once I finish redoing the hot tub. Sonya will have a MUCH larger role in the spa than she does in vanilla but Jess and Christine will also get plenty of new options as well.

Thinking about the spa has also given me a better picture for how I want the exclusive Christine vs Jess paths to develop. I'm thinking the idea of exhibitionism vs voyeurism might be a good way to split things up here. With the exclusive Christine path, I can develop Christine into an exhibitionist (with enough corruption) while Jess becomes more of a voyeur. On the Jess path the opposite will happen.

So on the exclusive path you'll be fucking Christine more with Sonya and/or Jess joining in more either as purely voyeurs or just in secondary roles. On the Jess path you'll be fucking Jess and Sonya more with Christine playing the voyeur and joining in more secondary roles. I think the exclusive path also leaves the door option for threesome options where you're fucking Sonya with Christine joining in but probably not for options where you fuck Jess with Christine joining in.

So there will be threesome options open on both paths as well as options to remain true to Christine, although if your definition of being true is fairly narrow then you'll miss a lot of the content. The options for Christine don't fully open up til day 14 since in the vanilla game she's still a virgin until the night of day 13 and she doesn't find out for sure that you've fucked Jess (or not) until day 14 (although she definitely has more reason to suspect it in the mod).
 

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Hi.
I'm very interested with your work.
I also want to do something.
Would you please help me with the soft to render adult content like babysitter, or just give me the link to read how to do stuff like this.
Thanks a lot.
Best Regards.
 

khumak

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Hi.
I'm very interested with your work.
I also want to do something.
Would you please help me with the soft to render adult content like babysitter, or just give me the link to read how to do stuff like this.
Thanks a lot.
Best Regards.
Mentioned this when I replied to your PM as well, but for anyone seeing your question here, the Daz3d software itself is free. You can just go to the daz3d shop and download it. Most of the assets for it cost money from places like the official Daz3d shop, Renderosity, etc, but you can also find a bunch of assets for free in the asset releases section of F95.

Check Youtube for tutorial videos on how to do all sorts of things with Daz, but there's really no substitute for just practicing it yourself. Most of the things I found really hard initially have gotten easier. Some things I think are just hard in general no matter what though. Animations for instance, as well as collisions and deformation are all a huge pain.

Also as far as fan art for this game if you check back through the previous pages for the mod (or the fan art page), I have a post in both that shows what assets I'm using specifically for my Babysitter mod renders. If you find a good match for any of the characters I haven't been doing anything with, would love to see what assets match for them. For instance someone recently posted about Julia on the fan art page.
 

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New update is out. This version has a small new hot tub event for Sonya on day 5 and a large hotel expansion on day 9 for Christine. Link in the OP. My next version will be focused on redoing the hot tub event on day 10 with my own renders and that most likely will not be ready until sometime in January.
 
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khumak

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Also fixed a problem with the day 10 hot tub event that I didn't realize was there until I tested the new hotel event. A lot of my triggers for the hot tub were impossible to succeed at if you went the hotel route. That's fixed now.

It was always doable on the Patreon path. As a side effect of that, the hot tub is ridiculously easy for now. I will make it more difficult when I redo it over the next month or so but since it's already a complicated event I didn't want to mess with it more than I had to.

I'm not sure how long the new hot tub event will take but I'm guessing probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a full month. So probably mid January.
 
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WhiteFireDaemon

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Overall some pretty good work. Only problem I'd say is the models look quite different from the original game. Sonya is so dark now she looks black instead of hispanic, PC and Robert are both less well endowed than in the main game. Christine looks a little fairer, but I'd say she actually look better here.

The writing and the scenes are quite hot. Looking forward for the next update.
 

khumak

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Overall some pretty good work. Only problem I'd say is the models look quite different from the original game. Sonya is so dark now she looks black instead of hispanic, PC and Robert are both less well endowed than in the main game. Christine looks a little fairer, but I'd say she actually look better here.

The writing and the scenes are quite hot. Looking forward for the next update.
I had to guess on the look for the different characters since I never saw confirmation on which assets were used. Sonya probably is a bit darker than she should be but her skin tone seems to change in the vanilla game depending on the scene so I just picked one. Might just be lighting.

For instance on day 13 she goes from being not much darker than Jess in the massage room to being as dark as Robert in the Sauna and I do think she should be darker than Jess. She's similarly dark in MC's bedroom on day 11. I had similar issues trying to guess the skin tone for Christine but I like the way she looks in my renders even if she's a bit different. I may still tweak Sonya a little bit to make her a bit lighter for the Spa event but I'm not going to redo her renders from day 5. The Spa is going to be Sonya's big event so I would like to get her look as close to vanilla as I can.

As for dick size, that was a judgement call as well. I based the size I'm using on what it looked like to me in the vanilla game, but also took clipping into account. Any bigger than I'm using for MC and Robert and their dicks will clip through the back of the girl's head during a blowjob or the back of their pelvis in sex animations. I haven't actually done any renders with Robert for the mod. The only one I have him in is my render that has all 5 of my characters just to show them in a comparison shot and you can't really tell how big their dicks are in that shot.

In any case, I do apprectiate the feedback.
 

khumak

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Decided to do a little tweaking to my base characters based on the feedback I've gotten so far. So Sonya is lighter now, but still darker than Jess. MC and Robert both got somewhat larger dicks. It's not so easy to tell the difference in dick size in these shots since it's not a sex scene but they're both significantly bigger.

As far as the actual changes, for Sonya I used Ultimate Iray Skin Manager to tweak skin tone from 155/155/155 to 200/200/200 (Jess is 255/255/255). For MC, I changed scale in Dicktator from -40% to -35% for MC and from -35% to -30% for Robert. So MC is now as big as Robert was and Robert is a bit bigger.

I won't be redoing previous renders to use the new settings but anything from the Hot tub on day 10 on will use the new settings. Let me know what you guys think. Here's a couple of renders showing the changes. Ironically these 2 renders actually illustrate my problem with trying to guess skin tone. If you look at Sonya, she looks lighter in the top image than she does in the bottom image but she's not. It's just lighting:

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khumak

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Here's a comparison comparison render for a sex scene comparing before and after dick sizes. Disregard the graininess, I only let it render long enough to show the size difference. As you can see it's noticeably thicker now. MC's original dick size you can see does not completely fill up the morph I used for Jess's pussy. MC's new dick just barely fits. MC with Robert's new dick size as you can see actually clips enough that I would have to use a bigger morph for Jess's pussy because otherwise it would clip through.

Let me know what you guys think.

MC's original dick size:

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MC's new dick size:

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MC with Robert's new dick size:

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So basically instead of having abrupt bad endings for bad choices your opponent would get some scenes with the girls you're trying to progress with. Ideally I would want that type of system to be a slow progression though. So a bad choice wouldn't mean your opponent suddenly starts fucking your girl/getting his dick sucked/etc, but would progress at least as slow as the MC could have progressed if he had made the right decisions. Maybe she invites him over for dinner/lunch initially and they just talk/etc and it only develops further if you continue to make bad decisions. So you could overcome the initial setback and still get the girl(s).

I have played some games with unavoidable NTR though and I definitely don't like that. I won't be doing that. I'll have to see what I think when I try to make some NTR scenes. Maybe I'll decide it just doesn't work for me. I suspect it may depend on how the "bad guy" character is developed. I think that's my issue with trying to do NTR for Babysitter. I really hate both Robert and Silver. I had the same sort of initial reaction to Eric in Big Brother.
I'm a NTR fan here , have played a lot of NTR games. One thing I haven't encountered is having a good ending on a NTR theme for obvious reasons. That being said, same as what you have written above, a good story version for instance, can have the MC losing out Christine to Sliver as he made the wrong choices. So after watching the yacht hot tub scene, he could try to win her back from Sliver . It wouldn't easy coz she has somewhat fallen in love but with good plot writing (such as using the webcam hack to expose sliver fucking other woman, not just Christine etc), it is definitely possible winning back from the bad guys.

So in short, you can create a guy that everyone hates, may lose out your gal with poor choices on alternative path, makes a 360 degree effect to chase her back and happy every after again. Which is quite a hollywood theme movie if you think about it. That would be my best suggestion if you plan to make future NTR scenes .
 

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I'm a NTR fan here , have played a lot of NTR games. One thing I haven't encountered is having a good ending on a NTR theme for obvious reasons. That being said, same as what you have written above, a good story version for instance, can have the MC losing out Christine to Sliver as he made the wrong choices. So after watching the yacht hot tub scene, he could try to win her back from Sliver . It wouldn't easy coz she has somewhat fallen in love but with good plot writing (such as using the webcam hack to expose sliver fucking other woman, not just Christine etc), it is definitely possible winning back from the bad guys.

So in short, you can create a guy that everyone hates, may lose out your gal with poor choices on alternative path, makes a 360 degree effect to chase her back and happy every after again. Which is quite a hollywood theme movie if you think about it. That would be my best suggestion if you plan to make future NTR scenes .
I do plan to do some NTR stuff at some point. I'm still thinking about how since I'm not personally a fan of that type of scene and the fact that I really don't like the Robert or Silver characters will make it harder for me as well.

I want to finish my hot tub and Spa events first though and at least initially there won't be any NTR there. I might go back and add some NTR for Robert to the hot tub at some point.

I plan to do a Yacht expansion as well but that will probably be fairly small. Was mostly just planning to have Sonya join in on the Truth or Dare game with MC, Jess, and Christine since at that point all restrictions as far as storyline have been lifted (you've already fucked Christine, and if you fucked either Jess or Sonya, she knows about it).

The problem for me when it comes to the Yacht, is that environment is absolutely huge and take so much memory that rendering on my computer takes forever. So I may not even do a Yacht expansion because of that. I may wait til they leave the Yacht and have them all party at MC's place or something instead. For comparison sake on the yacht it takes me about 2 hours to render each frame. If I did an identical scene in MC's hot tub I could render it in about 20 minutes. I think for an environment like the Yacht, I really need to upgrade my computer and I don't plan on doing that for at least another couple of years.

The progression I'm planning for now is for the hot tub to have some lesbo scenes between Christine and Jess, potential for BJ from both of them, potential for MC eating out either or both of them, potential for fucking Jess, potential for threesome, although hopefully done in a way that Christine doesn't know for sure that MC fucked Jess. Christine will not be fuckable yet, although dreams/fantasies are fair game for that.

For the Spa I'm planning lesbo action for Christine, Jess, and Sonya, MC fucking both Jess and Sonya, and threesome options with all of them. The blindfolds idea that the vanilla game introduced there should give me some interesting options as well for involving Christine without her knowing for sure who's doing what to preserve the vanilla game status that she doesn't know if MC fucked Jess til day 14. She already has the option to find out MC fucked Sonya in the vanilla game on day 11 so it doesn't need to be hidden in the spa.

Also planning to do at least 1 foursome option, most likely for Christine with all of them driving her wild and MC only just barely stopping short of fucking her. Sonya may get a foursome as well but in her case I think I could plausibly go all out, even including Christine knowing full well what everyone is doing with an up close and personal view of MC fucking her.

Also thinking about having Sonya catch MC fucking Jess and joining in while Christine is waiting in the Sauna. The vanilla game already hints at the possibility that they're being loud enough that someone hears them (at least if he spanks her). That leaves an option for a no holds barred Sonya/Jess/MC threesome.

I haven't decided how I'm going to handle branching yet for some of those scenes. I do want to preserve options for players who want to remain true to Christine so those players need to have a way to opt out of fucking both Jess and Sonya but I still want them to have options to get as close to the line as they want (or change their mind and cross it). I also want to have some stuff that is exclusive to each path so for example the foursome centered on Christine might be exclusive to players who remain true to her while players who don't get the Sonya foursome instead or something.

Some of the options in both the hot tub and the spa I also plan to have restrictions for depending on certain previous events. So for instance if you chose not to fuck Sonya on day 8 or day 11 and/or you haven't fucked Jess yet, then some of the Sonya/Jess options will be off the table. The lesbo options I will probably be more liberal with because hey, it's a porn game... So even if you're on the exclusive Christine path she'll probably still do the lesbo scenes unless MC stops it.
 
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New update is out. This version has a small new hot tub event for Sonya on day 5 and a large hotel expansion on day 9 for Christine. Link in the OP. My next version will be focused on redoing the hot tub event on day 10 with my own renders and that most likely will not be ready until sometime in January.
This update is great, man. I really like the scene in the hotel.
 
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