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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Fate and life mystery of Valinhorn game had to remove blackmail for Steam to accept it
Wait so steam prohibits both blackmail and loli shit in games?

AWESOME.
I don't know if this idea was mentioned, if T4bbo decided to prepare Erica for a sexual adventure for her prince (Mc), for this two things must happen:

1: Jane or Jessica know and see how Erica is head over heels attracted to Mc, and some of them have an idea to tease Erica, someone will play with Mc or jerk him off unnoticed and Erica notices this, but instead of jealousy, she gets very excited and plays with her pussy?
IMO these are some of the best ideas because they're easy to implement, and make use of Jane and Jess - they could flow very organically and feel believable. My own version of these though would be less of a jealousy play and more of a simple 'highschool girls' style talk like "dont think we havent noticed you looking at him....anyway heres what you need to do".... or they could be trying to get her to embarass herself.
 
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Joshy92

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Wait so steam prohibits both blackmail and loli shit in games?

AWESOME.

IMO these are some of the best ideas because they're easy to implement, and make use of Jane and Jess - they could flow very organically and feel believable. My own version of these though would be less of a jealousy play and more of a simple 'highschool girls' style talk like "dont think we havent noticed you looking at him....anyway heres what you need to do".... or they could be trying to get her to embarass herself.
So because you don't like something it's shit? Well I don't want to see Jane or Jessica because they are shit.
 

palmtrees89

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Can you elaborate more, what kind of blackmail he had in a game that he had to remove it?
Just a personal guess as I never played Vaulinhorn, but blackmail almost always goes hand in hand with nonconsensual sexual content, which could mean trouble if you plan to release the game on Steam.

For your project this could potentially apply to the Lara/Tony route, atleast the first one or two scenes as Lara didn't exactly seem happy with what Tony did. Getting the wrong person on Steam to review your game and those scenes in particular could be enough for it to be denied. Certainly some luck involved in regards to the person working at Steam who is getting your project on his office desk. :LOL:

Kinda similar with Patreon. I've seen projects get kicked off the platform for rather tame content if compared with other projects that are still going.
 

SonsOfLiberty

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Wait so steam prohibits both blackmail and loli shit in games?
No.

Steam only prohibits, high school settings, character that clearly look underage (even then there are instances where they clearly look underage but classified as 800 years old or some shit), bestiality (even though what's the difference between that and furry, still fucking a dog or a wolf or a fucking bear that looks half humanoid or alien), basically whatever else is okay.

An example of blackmail is this game: Fate and Life, it was removed from Patreon version the version with blackmail is only on Steam/SS. The blackmail is still in the game, the Steam version is what is posted on F95 and it still has it.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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So because you don't like something it's shit? Well I don't want to see Jane or Jessica because they are shit.
Joshy you're the last person on the forums I would take to be pro-"girls getting forced to do things they dont want to". That seems very anti your style.

Also, i'll never get defensive over Jess, she's so hot it doesnt matter what's said. It's like calling the sun lukewarm, it doesnt care, it'll still be a toasty 6000K.
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Joshy92

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Joshy you're the last person I the forums I would take to be pro-"girls getting forced to do things they dont want to". That seems very anti your style.
It's not I hate blackmail I just don't like saying something is shit.
I'll even tell devs I think their game is good even if I don't like it.

Actually I did call something shit today so I take that back. But I still feel Jess and Jane are just side characters that aren't important.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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No.

Steam only prohibits, high school settings, character that clearly look underage (even then there are instances where they clearly look underage but classified as 800 years old or some shit), bestiality (even though what's the difference between that and furry, still fucking a dog or a wolf or a fucking bear that looks half humanoid or alien), basically whatever else is okay.

An example of blackmail is this game: Fate and Life, it was removed from Patreon version the version with blackmail is only on Steam/SS. The blackmail is still in the game, the Steam version is what is posted on F95 and it still has it.
Yeah, I got that mixed up, it’s usually Steam that’s stricter than Patreon but now it feels kind of even
 
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steam incest but no to high school girls
patreon no incest but yes for high school girls
 

SteveyP

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Would MC impregnating Angelica count as "incest," given MC's baby is Angie's brother?
I'm not sure what the specific criteria is for incest. But Angelica is MC's Step-Daughter. They're related through marriage, not blood. So I'm assuming it's not incest via legal loopholes. But it's probably as close as you can get regardless of the child with Lara.
 

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I'm not sure what the specific criteria is for incest. But Angelica is MC's Step-Daughter. They're related through marriage, not blood. So I'm assuming it's not incest via legal loopholes. But it's probably as close as you can get regardless of the child with Lara.
As far as I know:

Patreon:
- no children (under 18 looking characters),
- no incest (even no stepdaugther - no blood and legal lines), therefore MC and Lara are not married, just partners living together,
- no rape (no pills, drugs, non-consensual sex, bdsm games where woman just plays she doesn't want it is thin line I guess)
- no bestiality (except when animal is human like - furry etc.)

Steam is generally less strict regarding rape and incest, but more strict regarding children. On moral level I actually kind of agree and all of it makes sense to me.
 

L0b0ts

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As far as I know:

Patreon:
- no children (under 18 looking characters),
- no incest (even no stepdaugther - no blood and legal lines), therefore MC and Lara are not married, just partners living together,
- no rape (no pills, drugs, non-consensual sex, bdsm games where woman just plays she doesn't want it is thin line I guess)
- no bestiality (except when animal is human like - furry etc.)

Steam is generally less strict regarding rape and incest, but more strict regarding children. On moral level I actually kind of agree and all of it makes sense to me.
Lara Tony story line is the cleanest in game and therefore keeps developer in good graces with the upper echelon. So to all those Tony haters, he is keeping the game in play, that makes Tony the true hero in the game and keeps Lara sexually satisfied. GAME ON!
 

Skep-tiker

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Lara Tony story line is the cleanest in game and therefore keeps developer in good graces with the upper echelon. So to all those Tony haters, he is keeping the game in play, that makes Tony the true hero in the game and keeps Lara sexually satisfied. GAME ON!
Oh of course, because tony doesnt blackmail Lara for sex /s
Got a little bit overboard with wishful thinking?
 

xapican

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Oh of course, because tony doesnt blackmail Lara for sex /s
Got a little bit overboard with wishful thinking?
No, or well, yes, somehow, I think he just enjoys that part of the game so much that he wants to have more, those which are pretty neutral with it or dislike of course are a bit tierd of it, anyway it is T4bb0 s decision which path he updates.
I'm fine with all, and understand that after the cliffhanger in the Bathroom they want to see what happens, I for my part will skip some updates, but hang out in the thread.
 
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