Pleevy

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thanks for the info. :) hope you guys have good day and health and btw no subscribe star or anything to help support you guys?
Not that I am aware of. Even if there was, the thread is from an earlier Dev who seems to have follen off the world like so many have. Posting here is the best support you can give.
Secondly, I had already asked this (go back a page) since - if you couldn't guess by now - I've been experimenting with Stable Diffusion to try & produce graphics for myself to try and learn how to make suitable scenes based on the current gameplay.
Other areas that I've just thought of atm that seem a bit devoid of graphics are
- In the park while at the swings (there's a couple of scenes with Cream on the swings & either Sonic is on the bench or pushing her),
- In the Mall there's no 'visuals' for when you get Icecream/special icecream - on subject of special icecream there's nothing for when you do eat it back home
- Buying stuff in electronics store (although not a lot can happen there anyway)
- In Arcade (apart from the Bike ride) when playing the other games (grabbing her ankles for example while playing dance game)
I guess by recycling existing graphics we could make them a little more 'visually appealing' instead of a blank background picture - like when character are chatting...
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I know I personally would back the "having the generic character image" when characters are chatting, anywhere/everywhere throughout the game - from a player standpoint. But seeing as I am also working in the code..I also know it means a lot of work in the code and images created for more and more situations...(And I know for a fact much of the writing did not take into account either of those factors...)so I am not going to push heavily for it unless/until the rest of the game is to a certain point.
 

nonesuch00

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Firstly - what Discord channel ????? I vaguely remember there was one waaaayy back (pre-Novilon) didn't think it was still active

Secondly, I had already asked this (go back a page) since - if you couldn't guess by now - I've been experimenting with Stable Diffusion to try & produce graphics for myself to try and learn how to make suitable scenes based on the current gameplay.

[FYI, The way I've currently been working is by playing through then seeing where IMHO there seems to be a lot of text but no graphics (I've already mentioned a couple of areas that I'm working on myself)]

Other areas that I've just thought of atm that seem a bit devoid of graphics are
- In the park while at the swings (there's a couple of scenes with Cream on the swings & either Sonic is on the bench or pushing her),
- In the Mall there's no 'visuals' for when you get Icecream/special icecream - on subject of special icecream there's nothing for when you do eat it back home
- Buying stuff in electronics store (although not a lot can happen there anyway)
- In Arcade (apart from the Bike ride) when playing the other games (grabbing her ankles for example while playing dance game)

I guess by recycling existing graphics we could make them a little more 'visually appealing' instead of a blank background picture - like when character are chatting...

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oh and of course there's probably a requirement for replacement AI graphics for the existing 'handdrawn' ones like when peeking in changing room

There's also the problem of 'keeping a style' consistently throughout the game, after all - compare my version & the one you posted & you'll see mine is a completely different in style to yours which looks more like 'cartoon/comic' style to me
(this is why I asked in earlier post what people were using to make AI... but everyone was using something different in SD, FYI I've been using Novafurry in my attempts)

We've already got 3-4 'styles' in place (Avalon/Novaca, ShadowWordPorn, .....) that are all different in some way (Avalon/Novaca are the most similar to each other) so when playing you're gonna see a mashup of graphics

For example (if I figure it out right) right at the beginning of game when you 'skip the intro' you could probably see these graphics IF you had all graphics styles active at the same time
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USELESS BIT OF INFO: FYI my research shows that there's currently 167 AvalonX graphics,55 SWP, (so far) 13 Novaca graphics and 160.... currently in use in the game
"The Discord" Is actually the one that Novilon took over when the original dev vanished. As far as I know it's the only discord this game has had. I can't really say I'm much a fan of super buff Sonic, but it's better than fat sonic.
 

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I know I personally would back the "having the generic character image" when characters are chatting, anywhere/everywhere throughout the game - from a player standpoint.
But seeing as I am also working in the code..I also know it means a lot of work in the code and images created for more and more situations...
Agree - looking through the game I have noticed several areas where there's a LOT of text with no visuals but where I would like to see something that matches what's been wrote.. however in one particular scene I can visualise around 6-7 possible images (I have a vivid imagination) but that would mean 6-7 new graphics to be produced, some may even look very similar to the previous one, & the code/script needs altering for EACH picture at the appropriate point to be displayed properly

If there was a way to 'auto display' a character based on which 'person' was talking and an auto way to hide everything when no-one was, it would be slightly easier I'd think (would only need to program/add certain display picture when a unique situation comes up)

Basically an 'auto display graphic while speaking' could be something like (in my mind anyway)...
Code:
If sonic is 'speaking' then display this graphic on the left
If Cream is 'speaking' then display this graphic on right
If Amy is 'speaking' display this graphic on right
:
etc etc
However the problem comes since characters are in different state of undress/emotions when talking so such a thing would be impossible IMHO, you would need something like this for each person.

Code:
If sonic is speaking, is clothed and is angry then display this graphic on left, otherwise if he is clothed and happy then display this graphic, however if he is naked and happy then show this graphic on left instead, but if he is naked and worried show this ......
You get the point - just look in the images > sonic folder and you can see how many 'Sonic' graphics are involved & having to program an 'auto show' depending on which state sonic is in would just be too impossible to create
- so the ONLY way is to edit each script at the appropriate place to show the required graphic - so adding 6-7 extra graphics to just one scene would require at least 12-14 lines added (one to hide previous graphic & one to show new graphic).

I don't know how many scenes there are at the moment (never had need to look) but if we assume there's ~80 scenes (there's 168 avalon graphics in current game so I'm halving this for an approximation since some are just mirror images of another) & we wanted to add 6-7 new graphics per scene to break up the text (won't be that many for some scenes), then that'll be approx an extra 960-1120 lines to be added just for the current version, plus there's probably new content so we have to take that into account as well to be added
 

partz

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Fair question, seeing as I sort of jumped the gun on that in an earlier post. I think I can say with confidence that for sure you will see it in the next major update (0.8) but I suspect we will release a patch if not a full version between now and then, probably no later then 0.7.5, maybe sooner. Basically, think of us at 0.7.2 on the back end, and you guys have access to 0.7 right now. I will leave my spoiler post up and remove the spoiler tags if nothing about that code changes between now and when its all public.
where can i grab 0.7?
 
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Pleevy

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Agree - looking through the game I have noticed several areas where there's a LOT of text with no visuals but where I would like to see something that matches what's been wrote.. however in one particular scene I can visualise around 6-7 possible images (I have a vivid imagination) but that would mean 6-7 new graphics to be produced, some may even look very similar to the previous one, & the code/script needs altering for EACH picture at the appropriate point to be displayed properly

If there was a way to 'auto display' a character based on which 'person' was talking and an auto way to hide everything when no-one was, it would be slightly easier I'd think (would only need to program/add certain display picture when a unique situation comes up)

Basically an 'auto display graphic while speaking' could be something like (in my mind anyway)...
Code:
If sonic is 'speaking' then display this graphic on the left
If Cream is 'speaking' then display this graphic on right
If Amy is 'speaking' display this graphic on right
:
etc etc
However the problem comes since characters are in different state of undress/emotions when talking so such a thing would be impossible IMHO, you would need something like this for each person.

Code:
If sonic is speaking, is clothed and is angry then display this graphic on left, otherwise if he is clothed and happy then display this graphic, however if he is naked and happy then show this graphic on left instead, but if he is naked and worried show this ......
You get the point - just look in the images > sonic folder and you can see how many 'Sonic' graphics are involved & having to program an 'auto show' depending on which state sonic is in would just be too impossible to create
- so the ONLY way is to edit each script at the appropriate place to show the required graphic - so adding 6-7 extra graphics to just one scene would require at least 12-14 lines added (one to hide previous graphic & one to show new graphic).

I don't know how many scenes there are at the moment (never had need to look) but if we assume there's ~80 scenes (there's 168 avalon graphics in current game so I'm halving this for an approximation since some are just mirror images of another) & we wanted to add 6-7 new graphics per scene to break up the text (won't be that many for some scenes), then that'll be approx an extra 960-1120 lines to be added just for the current version, plus there's probably new content so we have to take that into account as well to be added
Like I said...while i may want it...I recognize the work level it takes. I mean...It would be a lot of copy pasting once we have some key images in place...Maybe break it into tranches...clothed sonic, clothed cream, partially naked each, and so on? Or...we go through the code and add hidden code "##Sonic" And then find and replace all " ##Sonic" with the respective version, or skip to the next found if its a naked one and we're copying the clothed version for instance? The Hide one is probably generic enough to do a global find and replace of that easy enough. Then the prime focus would be just on scenes where its not just general talking back and forth. Just tossing more thoughts out there.
 
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how do i get the threesome with knuckles and cream?
Main stats needed are that you can get 'Cream naked' and you have had 'Vaginal' and 'Anal' sex

Once you have those, you'll get an option to 'Invite him over for a fuck with Cream' after watching a Porno

Based on your Moral level you have 1 of 2 possible outcomes, if its <= -20 you'll get the original 'dark' scene, anything above & it's more consensual
 

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I know at some point I was looking for a gif just after this for "the perfect cast"...but now...for the life of me...I cannot remember what I wanted to use it for...:LOL:

Also...side note....a camping outing was one of the ideas tossed about for content in the car access section being worked on...but I think its gonna have to be post 1.0 content.
 

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I know at some point I was looking for a gif just after this for "the perfect cast"...but now...for the life of me...I cannot remember what I wanted to use it for...:LOL:

Also...side note....a camping outing was one of the ideas tossed about for content in the car access section being worked on...but I think its gonna have to be post 1.0 content.
... Will Sonic use the Perfect Cast?
 
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I know at some point I was looking for a gif just after this for "the perfect cast"...but now...for the life of me...I cannot remember what I wanted to use it for...:LOL:

Also...side note....a camping outing was one of the ideas tossed about for content in the car access section being worked on...but I think its gonna have to be post 1.0 content.
Interesting idea for the car. As for the GIF I could not think for the life of me something to post here since it was almost a week of nothing so I eventually settled on a Goofy Dance and found that one.
 

Pleevy

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Well, not to sound defensive, but everyone working on things here has a life outside of here too, and that comes first. I threw snoopy out there mostly as a hi....we're alive...be happy, dance if you feel like it...but nothing to report at this time...without all those words.

I will never think about the perfect cast the same way again. I think you may have just ruined the Goofy movie for me...
 

SoulKenshin

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Well, not to sound defensive, but everyone working on things here has a life outside of here too, and that comes first. I threw snoopy out there mostly as a hi....we're alive...be happy, dance if you feel like it...but nothing to report at this time...without all those words.

I will never think about the perfect cast the same way again. I think you may have just ruined the Goofy movie for me...
I get everyone has a live outside here and I intended to do the same just to keep the thread somewhat active.
 
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