Shocked that the guy who makes furry loli porn turns out to be a massive child who lashes out against anyone who criticizes him
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- Apr 27, 2017
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Well, I just said that I hoped for this game to be finished or extended, I guess I don't care if it's by the original author or not while the additional content keeps it up with the rest of the game.
About Aval0nx, as far as I remember, during the time the game was being "actively" developed, he received an extreme amount of abuse by almost everyone, because of content, bugs, release speed, missed deadlines, broken promises, etc. I understand how someone can turn into bitterness because of that. Also I'm not saying he is without fault, but people seem to forget that BSC is a free game done by two guys in their spare time.
But I agree that he is tone deaf about his aggressiveness and what kind of insults are acceptable to throw away at people.
I'm not seeing any of the lewd scenes. The text scrolls across the bottom describing the scene but there are no images? I'm on the windows version.
It's more complicated than that. BSC start out as a free game and when people criticize it, he got angry. This I understand. But then the fan base of the game start to pick up and grow, along with his Patron. This became a semi-employment. People pay him to support him, hoping that the content will come out quicker since he would not be burden with financial to focus on the game and he was happy with it. He did keep people updated. Post updates versions of the games. Fix bugs. etc. It all went down hill ever since he release his 'deal.with.it' ver. of BSC. People were happy for a while with it since he claim it was a big milestone of the BSC at that time. Then everything change. He focus more on commission. There is no actual 'solid' news of BSC and people who support with patron start to get unhappy with his 'i'm working on it' with 108 extra reasons why the project is not moving forward. People start to stop support on patron since they did not get what their money worth. This spiral into madness since with less support Aval0nx also became more unhappy and everything slowly degrade into what it is today.
This is purely from my memory and understanding. Real event that happen maybe different from what I remember.
Still I think the main problem is that Aval0nx couldn't deliver the promise content or any solid proof to sustain his fan base. Together with his hot temper and his childishness when the fame got to his head. That was the problem to all this.
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The "Deal with it" version was released before Patreon even existed.
And as far as I remember, this version was released really really late, because Aval0nx didn't want to release an unfinished version, but at last he released the version as is -meaning unfinished and with bugs- to shut down people.
I don't really know if he was being funded by then. Maybe it's true, but I don't remember any money being involved in the development of BSC.
Also I vaguely remember something about the sources for the game being lost at some point, I don't know if before or after the "Deal with it" version.
Maybe we should tip Fredrik Knudsen on the development of BSC, because it would make a really good episode of his YouTube series "Down the rabbit hole".
The "Deal With it version" IIRC, was playable to an actual ending,
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The previous versions ended with a picture of Vanilla giving Sonic a tit job and a "Thanks for Playing!" or something like that.
"Deal with it" wasnt complete in the sense that everything was there. There were all the missing assets, bugs, as well as extra content was planned. But the main story (pre expanded content) was able to be played all the way through.
50/50. He was getting donations via Paypal. Some were one offs or occasional donations, but I do think I recall a mentioning that some were donating regurally, Patrons pre-Patreon, so to speak.
The key point it went down hill was when he was proving he was still working on the game by constantly drawing non game related sonic and cream pictures, as well as commisions. The commisions were actually fine, the fact that he completely stop any work on bsc was not. Even his coding partner got fed up with him and ditched him for his own project because avanlox just had not given him any work in ages. Eventually it got to like 3 years or something and he had shown literally no work, so yeah people were pissed.
His excuse of it being hard cause it was a one man project was bullshit, as all he had to do was write and draw, the other guy literally did everthing else. Hell, the evochron games are massive space games that multiple were developed by a single guy in half the time avalon took to do nothing.
His excuse of it being hard cause it was a one man project was bullshit, as all he had to do was write and draw, the other guy literally did everthing else. Hell, the evochron games are massive space games that multiple were developed by a single guy in half the time avalon took to do nothing.
Mostly likely Avalon's problem is that he doesn't like the like the original game anymore. He's changed over the years and and is working full time, and the art and theme for the new build they are working on is not the same as what he did originally.
When he was getting a lot of crap for not putting out a final build I asked where all of the hate was coming from- nothing is stopping one or several of us from taking the project and completing it however they see fit. The fact that nobody has so far means that there isn't enough motivation to do so. I'm sure one of the problems and perhaps the reason Avalon and Feathered could never finish this as it is is due to something Avalon said- the game was a collection of a lot of different scenes and testing and they weren't sure where the balance point should be and the rest of it cut.
IMO it was a good effort and a huge hate magnet. Far better for Avalon had he released the items anonymously so there would never be a focal point to complain to and it would just a be huge internet legend of where the Bunny came from.
When he was getting a lot of crap for not putting out a final build I asked where all of the hate was coming from- nothing is stopping one or several of us from taking the project and completing it however they see fit. The fact that nobody has so far means that there isn't enough motivation to do so. I'm sure one of the problems and perhaps the reason Avalon and Feathered could never finish this as it is is due to something Avalon said- the game was a collection of a lot of different scenes and testing and they weren't sure where the balance point should be and the rest of it cut.
IMO it was a good effort and a huge hate magnet. Far better for Avalon had he released the items anonymously so there would never be a focal point to complain to and it would just a be huge internet legend of where the Bunny came from.
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster, lol. I got bored with the stay at home stuff lately and decided to play around with the last hacked version of the game in SWF. I've ended up making a lot of text revisions, fixed some bugs, extended scenes, added several scenes, and am working on editting Avalon's images to add more into the game. It's still in progress, but I'd love to post it for feedback.
Please do, it's been an old favorite game of mine forever and it seems like somebody should finish it if avalon won't.
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I'm finishing up a new scene for the "confront her about the toy" set today, and need to remove another artists image I used as a test, then I'll post it. Here's a rundown of the changes:
fixed the phone call gossip sections so they all work correctly, updated text, added new event related dialog on Sally.
Extended the peek scene
major edits to the game/undress scene
cartoon scenes - added new scenes based on had/haven't had sex with cream yet, extensive edits to text.
This includes checking panties/finish in bathroom, checking panties and blowing a load, ignoring and checking on noise in Cream's room (edits and one new)
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Thanks for the interest guys. I'm working my way up the sprite tree, on 917 - the livingroom, dressed activities mostly. I've finished adding the new scene and testing the buttons. New scenes aren't menu options, but are based on stats, mostly figuring if you've had sex and bjs, why should the scenes still behave as if it's the first time. Text updates are much more graphic, tried painting a more full picture than "You bang the bunny, *grunt*, next..."
- This is the hacked game still, so 1000 E/1000 RWC, most levels at 50, so you can dive right in, BUT I left off items so you have to get them. Reason: opens more options, everything at once ties you into a narrow story-line.
- phone call additions to tails' outraged call should entertain you, Sally got a big rewrite and new text.
- debugged gossip for Knux, doesn't goto Amy anymore, and fresh text.
- living room play game/tickle attack (this was the first mod I did, a LOT of text per readbox, let me know what you think, might spread it out more for readability)
- livingroom watch cartoons - new scenes on every step for ignore and check out the goods, lots of text mods
- Peek into Cream's room - modded text and tried adding a picture. Not happy with the loss of resolution on the line art, will have to work on that. View attachment Babysitting Cream hacked modified.swf View attachment Babysitting Cream hacked modified.swf
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I'm sure there is some new text I missed but I'm real happy with what was there. It's way better than the original stuff and it's a good direction for the overhaul.
The whole project is going to hang on the writing quality. The only thing the game really has going for it is a fun/exciting premise, a decent writer who can code out a bunch of scenes even without much in the way of art assets would still be a lot of fun to play.
Definitely going to keep my eye on it if you decide to keep working on it.
The whole project is going to hang on the writing quality. The only thing the game really has going for it is a fun/exciting premise, a decent writer who can code out a bunch of scenes even without much in the way of art assets would still be a lot of fun to play.
Definitely going to keep my eye on it if you decide to keep working on it.
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll assume nothing blew up/crashed/stalled/messed up that hadn't been there in the old version.
There will be plenty of artwork additions. There are a number of spots already set for images where they were just never applied. AvalOn has a bunch of older sketched which I'll be editing and using.
There will be plenty of artwork additions. There are a number of spots already set for images where they were just never applied. AvalOn has a bunch of older sketched which I'll be editing and using.
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Updated the bedroom kiss scene and added 3 new images, working on the bedroom bj scene, rewriting text, adding stat based scene, adding images. If anyone want's a sample, pm me and I'll upload there, otherwise will just keep updating on progress.
cant you make an other thread of your moded game???? mabye easier to find your moded ver.
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