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Ennoch

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What's that got to do with anything I said?
I'll break it down for you.
You said, you don't understand whats the hype.
He said, different people like different things.
You: ???

What he is saying that other people, unlike you, find it amazing and thus loving it because their criteria for what is awesome stuff and what isn't differs from yours.

Hence the hype. You issue really is that you probably thought that you represent the majority of people. You probably even assume that your preferences are "the most widespread and best". And now you have a bit of a trouble comprehending why is that a title that YOU find boring is in such high regard.

It is because MORE people don't find it boring than it is convenient for you to admit.
don't understand the hype
It's easy to understand once you correctly identify your preferences aren't shared by -evidently- tons of people and they have a say in the matter. In other words: Different people like different things. And those different people with their different preferences, different from yours, hype BaDIK.

Get it now?
 

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Hence the hype. You issue really is that you probably thought that you represent the majority of people. You probably even assume that your preferences are "the most widespread and best". And now you have a bit of a trouble comprehending why is that a title that YOU find boring is in such high regard.

It is because MORE people don't find it boring than it is convenient for you to admit.
Nice strawman.

When did I claim that things I don't like shouldn't be popular? Or that everything I like is best? What's the deal with making stuff up?

The reason it's suprising this game is so popular because there are countless games that are extremely similar but don't see similar levels of success. At the risk of repeating myself, the best/most popular of a genre almost always has something to put it above the competition. Maybe it's an more in-depth story or just better renders, but I found neither playing the game and the quality was actually pretty sloppy at times. Again, you'd expect more if something was the most popular.

Now, anyways, maybe this is just me, but you're coming off as really aggressive here.
 

nulnil

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What do you not understand about "different people like different things."

But proceed to repeat yourself over and over, I'm sure it will take at some point.

There's a difference between not liking something and being surpised there isn't anything particularly outstanding about it even though it is extremely popular.

I'd also like to add if you think I'm saying "vanilla = bad!!", then you're just making invalid assumptions. Again, nothing I said corresponds to "different people like different things".
 

nulnil

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Did he just corrected tanstaafl's imaginary narrative version of thoughts?
There's no other logical way one would jump to such a bizarre conclusion otherwise.

"Why is this the most popular? It has a lot of flaws."
"Different people like different things"
"???"

You'd have to assume I'm criticising something completely subjective about the game (e.g. vanilla sex) instead of what I've actually said, directionless story and intrusive minigames, for that to make any sense.

Unless they're trying to push that everything is subjective, and nothing is objective. But that argument defeats itself.
 

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There's no other logical way one would jump to such a bizarre conclusion otherwise.

"Why is this the most popular? It has a lot of flaws."
"Different people like different things"
"???"

You'd have to assume I'm criticising something completely subjective about the game (e.g. vanilla sex) instead of what I've actually said, directionless story and intrusive minigames, for that to make any sense.

Unless they're trying to push that everything is subjective, and nothing is objective. But that argument defeats itself.
Talk yourself in enough circles and you'll get dizzy.
 
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Talk yourself in enough circles and you'll get dizzy.
Sounds a lot like you're just conceding here, given your reply's lack of any substance. Do correct me if I'm wrong though.

You know, would be greatly helpful if you yourself could explain how you got to that conlusion (in your first reply) in the first place because I'm doing a lot of guesswork here. Then again, that might require more than two sentences. Or maybe you know it wasn't logical in the first place and don't want to look bad?
 

Ennoch

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Well somebody got totally lost in his weird imaginary world here that's for sure :KEK:
 

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Yeah, but I'd imagine one of the top games here would at least stand out in some way.
It does stand out to many people, just not TO YOU

BaD is one of the top games on this site. Surely it must be a unique game then,
Why does it have to be unique? Why can't it just do what others have done, just better or in a way more people enjoy?
YOU are the one adding the "it must be unique", you are adding your own criteria and then judging it on that criteria and then passing the results off as something standard. Hence the later replies that you think you represent the majority.

I play the game, and it's not really noteworthy.
It's not really noteworthy TO YOU

I've seen quite a few other that are extremely similar, maybe a even a little better from time to time
TO YOU

You then reply "Different people like different things".

What's that got to do with anything I said?
It has everything to do with what you said because you can / are / do ONLY speak for yourself.

The reason it's suprising this game is so popular because there are countless games that are extremely similar but don't see similar levels of success.
Because unlike the criteria you used, MANY others like the way the game was made and if you take what he said into account "different people like different things" it's easy to understand.

At the risk of repeating myself, the best/most popular of a genre almost always has something to put it above the competition. Maybe it's an more in-depth story or just better renders, but I found neither playing the game and the quality was actually pretty sloppy at times.
The key part of ALL that is YOU found neither, other people did find those things and more, hence the things YOU didn't like, others did, which brings us back to "different people like different things"

Again, you'd expect more if something was the most popular.
No, YOU expect more, others are happy with it, which is why it's popular.

Now, anyways, maybe this is just me
It IS just YOU!

There's a difference between not liking something and being surpised there isn't anything particularly outstanding about it even though it is extremely popular.
To YOU

I'd also like to add if you think I'm saying "vanilla = bad!!", then you're just making invalid assumptions. Again, nothing I said corresponds to "different people like different things".
Really? Your whole argument is based on "I don't like it so why do others" and the answer is back on page 1
 

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jk but, seriously.

It's all the above and some completely opposite, dependent only on choice of observation.
 

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It does stand out to many people, just not TO YOU



Why does it have to be unique? Why can't it just do what others have done, just better or in a way more people enjoy?
YOU are the one adding the "it must be unique", you are adding your own criteria and then judging it on that criteria and then passing the results off as something standard. Hence the later replies that you think you represent the majority.



It's not really noteworthy TO YOU



TO YOU



It has everything to do with what you said because you can / are / do ONLY speak for yourself.



Because unlike the criteria you used, MANY others like the way the game was made and if you take what he said into account "different people like different things" it's easy to understand.



The key part of ALL that is YOU found neither, other people did find those things and more, hence the things YOU didn't like, others did, which brings us back to "different people like different things"



No, YOU expect more, others are happy with it, which is why it's popular.



It IS just YOU!



To YOU



Really? Your whole argument is based on "I don't like it so why do others" and the answer is back on page 1
He is famous for having the opinion that VNs are inherently shitty because amateur writers cannot write well. He needs games that tie sexual content directly to gameplay. Or something along those lines. That's his criteria of what good porn games should be, and it's a very strongly held belief. Which is why he will find typical VNs, which are actually much more popular as a genre than anything gameplay related, to be lackluster and stupid.

So yeah. Lol. Just some context for this, but the answer is still the same. People like different shit.
 
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"Why is this the most popular? It has a lot of flaws."
Maybe what you see as a flaw others dont...

I only really liked the first couple of marvel movies, the rest were too formulaic & all the avengers movies I found boring, there were too many things I didnt like and that overshadowed the bits I didnt mind. I am happy to accept that many people did like it however, and so I just left them to enjoy it.

A better example here would be that some people dont like anime because they dont like cartoons, and it seems you are in that category with games. You dont like a common format (used because its easier to create content with), deal with it & stick to what you do like, or broaden your horizens and see that the writing not the format is what sets some of them apart from others.
 
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Let me break it down. BaD is one of the top games on this site. Surely it must be a unique game then, because usually the best of something at least stands out in some way.
Like an old friend of mine used to say, "hundreds billions of flies eat shit, it shouldn't be this bad of a meal".


Edit: Ennoch since when are you the most verbose of the two of us?
 
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Geigi

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Nice strawman.

When did I claim that things I don't like shouldn't be popular? Or that everything I like is best? What's the deal with making stuff up?

The reason it's suprising this game is so popular because there are countless games that are extremely similar but don't see similar levels of success. At the risk of repeating myself, the best/most popular of a genre almost always has something to put it above the competition. Maybe it's an more in-depth story or just better renders, but I found neither playing the game and the quality was actually pretty sloppy at times. Again, you'd expect more if something was the most popular.

Now, anyways, maybe this is just me, but you're coming off as really aggressive here.
I don't know if Being a DIK is the first adult game with it's story, characters and kinks, but if it is, it's not surprising it's popular. I don't know if GGGB is the first female protagonist with good girl become bad girl core theme, but if it's it's not surprising that it's the most popular FMC game. Everyone wants new, interesting and quality stories. I haven't seen one copy paste game with recycled story that overthrow original's game popularity. Look how many similar GGGB games are made and who knows if they will be finished and become popular. Same for AI NTR phone games and "lovely" married couple Netorase games that are done to death.
 

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I swear, is there anyone else that hates those ugly realistic 3d games that plague the front page??? It feels like those and games with 0 gameplay whatsoever just do not leave from the top and it's frustrating because I see nothing appealing about them AT ALL. I need to know if I'm alone on this and I'm crazy or it's an actual thing. View attachment 4721875
I think it is the wrong place to talk about realism off games.
This is porn and to expect realism isn't something that would be found here.
It's personal choices and preferred fetishes.
And most importantly, are people willing to pay for it and the answer is yes. People pay for it. So that in itself is already a reason why people care for a game.

Games aren't meant to be realistic because they supposed to take us somewhere else. Away from reality, because reality sucks.

So, why not enjoy what you prefer?

Most game mechanics aren't realistic either.
 
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