Maviarab

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It's fiction...
Which has what to do with anything exactly?

The problem is less that they like the assault in their fiction, the problem is that they don't seem to realize/accept it's assault. Just because someone doesn't say no it doesn't mean they mean yes.
This. And if someone cannot even tell the difference between right and wrong, what is and isn't sexual assault, even in a 'fictional' story...one wonders what they are like in the real world around women...

So like I said...
 

KaosKally

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This imo seems to go way too far and for too long.
I guess we all said what we had to say about this topic, and even if we don't agree on each vision of it, let's accept what was said and move on, otherwise this most likely will go on with no real ending.
 

girlfairdev

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If you don't like something that contains on an AVN don't play it. I hate a lot of genres and situations on AVNs, but I keep to myself.
Society is formed by people who coexist with different opinions and tastes. If you keep complaining about your neighbor's tastes you will only create conflict without changing their tastes to become similar to yours.
Precisely. If you back up and take a look at some of the things being said in not only this but many other threads, there certainly is a lot of cancel culture mentality lurking around here. Laughable for an AVN pirate site. Where on earth do people get the idea that just because someone is doing something they don't like or is against their personal moral structure that they are some sort of degenerate to be chastised and ridiculed. Censorship is bad. Within the confines of the law, locally and internationally, the negative effects of censorship are resoundingly larger than anything perceivable as positive. All the comments about what developers should or should not be ALLOWED to write are vulgar at their core. Creative minds should create. I say the same to those intolerant critics that I say to those who want to ban books, censor speech or cancel out any person or entity simply over a politically unpopular position. Censors be damned. And for the record taking that stand has nothing to do with support or non support for anyone's position. It is a right to personal freedom we are all entitled to.
 

Joshy92

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Precisely. If you back up and take a look at some of the things being said in not only this but many other threads, there certainly is a lot of cancel culture mentality lurking around here. Laughable for an AVN pirate site. Where on earth do people get the idea that just because someone is doing something they don't like or is against their personal moral structure that they are some sort of degenerate to be chastised and ridiculed. Censorship is bad. Within the confines of the law, locally and internationally, the negative effects of censorship are resoundingly larger than anything perceivable as positive. All the comments about what developers should or should not be ALLOWED to write are vulgar at their core. Creative minds should create. I say the same to those intolerant critics that I say to those who want to ban books, censor speech or cancel out any person or entity simply over a politically unpopular position. Censors be damned. And for the record taking that stand has nothing to do with support or non support for anyone's position. It is a right to personal freedom we are all entitled to.
First off Patreon don't care they censor any game that breaks their ToS if they don't flat out ban them.

Secondly and most importantly it was about the fact that the MC in this is a creepy fucker not whether a creator should be free to create whatever.

Seriously some people need better reading comprehension.
 

girlfairdev

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First off Patreon don't care they censor any game that breaks their ToS if they don't flat out ban them.

Secondly and most importantly it was about the fact that the MC in this is a creepy fucker not whether a creator should be free to create whatever.

Seriously some people need better reading comprehension.
Since we're highlighting comprehension problems, FIRST OFF, someone enforcing their TOS is not censorship, it is enforcement of their TOS. In my house, my rules. Don't like them? That's no problem. Look for the exit door. I can't stand Patreon or any of those platforms and don't justify anything about them, but that is the facts.

SECONDLY and most importantly you are fundamentally incorrect. Many of the comments suggest to question the character of the one who created the creepy MC so to infer they were not is false. Don't like the content, go on to other content. My argument is not to support the writer, but his freedom to write as he pleases, as I said within the confines of the law.
 
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Joshy92

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Since we're highlighting comprehension problems, FIRST OFF, someone enforcing their TOS is not censorship, it is enforcement of their TOS. In my house, my rules. Don't like them? That's no problem. Look for the exit door. I can't stand Patreon or any of those platforms and don't justify anything about them, but that is the facts.

SECONDLY and most importantly you are fundamentally incorrect. Many of the comments suggest to question the character of the one who created the creepy MC so to infer they were not is false. Don't like the content, go on to other content. My argument is not to support the writer, but his freedom to write as he pleases, as I said within the confines of the law.
He can write what he wants until patreon comes knocking. They always do.

And Mav said it best people said the mc didn't sexually harrass anyone but he did its as simple as that.
 

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Where on earth do people get the idea that just because someone is doing something they don't like or is against their personal moral structure that they are some sort of degenerate to be chastised and ridiculed.
You know, I have a high level of disgust about some Japanese fetishes like succubus, tentacles, and many other things. But I don't disapprove, I just don't get near. Now without hypocrisy, I like 'aggressive' content, and I confess that I defended it in this thread. It's just a fucking fantasy, I never beat or harassed a woman in RL. Kinks are all dark, even the good o' anal is dark, no pun intended.
 

girlfairdev

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He can write what he wants until patreon comes knocking. They always do.

And Mav said it best people said the mc didn't sexually harrass anyone but he did its as simple as that.
You're right. and they're management system is flawed beyond comprehension. There are creators up there that have been TOS "violators" and untouched for years, and yet these little indie guys get picked off. Can't accuse, but I can smell some sort of pay-to-play happening there. Hate those sites. If you stand back and look at the overall damage they've done to the creative community it makes me nauseous. If there is anything in my personally flawed character I absolutely wish failure upon, it's these stinking patron sites.

He's a dirtbag IMO. I guess you can argue that he had a shithole role model and upbringing that made him that way. He has no idea how to treat women to be sure. But you have to understand that goes again to the point. A lot of Main characters throughout history have been evil, awful people. Sometimes (not in this case, but) authoring the antagonist that way is intentional and goes to the plot. The idea is to let the creator's ideas flow. Follow the work for its value to your tastes and then decide for yourself if this creator will get your attention moving forward. There are works out there by authors I admire which I've closed the cover on after a chapter. Doesn't mean the author is a bad author. Doesn't mean that I'm in the majority or minority when it comes to that opinion. Doesn't mean I won't read the author's next book. Just means the work wasn't to my taste. I can critique it publicly, give my reasons why, but assaulting the creator or even the concept, or for that matter others who disagree with my position would serve nothing but to display that I have a narrow point of view.
 

Joshy92

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You're right. and they're management system is flawed beyond comprehension. There are creators up there that have been TOS "violators" and untouched for years, and yet these little indie guys get picked off. Can't accuse, but I can smell some sort of pay-to-play happening there. Hate those sites. If you stand back and look at the overall damage they've done to the creative community it makes me nauseous. If there is anything in my personally flawed character I absolutely wish failure upon, it's these stinking patron sites.

He's a dirtbag IMO. I guess you can argue that he had a shithole role model and upbringing that made him that way. He has no idea how to treat women to be sure. But you have to understand that goes again to the point. A lot of Main characters throughout history have been evil, awful people. Sometimes (not in this case, but) authoring the antagonist that way is intentional and goes to the plot. The idea is to let the creator's ideas flow. Follow the work for its value to your tastes and then decide for yourself if this creator will get your attention moving forward. There are works out there by authors I admire which I've closed the cover on after a chapter. Doesn't mean the author is a bad author. Doesn't mean that I'm in the majority or minority when it comes to that opinion. Doesn't mean I won't read the author's next book. Just means the work wasn't to my taste. I can critique it publicly, give my reasons why, but assaulting the creator or even the concept, or for that matter others who disagree with my position would serve nothing but to display that I have a narrow point of view.
Where did people assault the author? I looked back over the argument and I see nothing about Rec.
 

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omg, people really like bring porn story into irl
That's why censorship exists in the first place. Idiots just can't separate fiction from reality. We all dislike censorship, but the fact remains that a huge number of people in the world would slip back to the Middle Ages without it. Simply because they believe that if something is written, it is true. It sounds absurd, but the theses of some people here prove it.
 

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That's why censorship exists in the first place. Idiots just can't separate fiction from reality. We all dislike censorship, but the fact remains that a huge number of people in the world would slip back to the Middle Ages without it. Simply because they believe that if something is written, it is true. It sounds absurd, but the theses of some people here prove it.
agreed, people believe some super strange things that has been written down by humans......

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{ just want an Update }
there are some hot scenes coming up that I don't wanna miss
 
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