Ren'Py Bad Memories [v0.9.5.2] [recreation]

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ClockworkGnome

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Sancho1969 said:
Bottom line, ain't nothing wrong or odd with studying and re-consuming media you enjoy, you've done it since birth, it's in our DNA as conscious beings.
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Especially since, while the media itself may not change, the person viewing it does. Every day that passes you learn new things, see new things, make new mental and emotional connections, and your personality and worldview undergo slight changes. The you who you were 5 years ago isn't the same person as the you you were 10 years ago, and so on.

So going back and rereading (or rewatching, or replaying, etc) something you've already read (or watched, or played, etc) can give you new insight or appreciation for things even if literally nothing changes. Because you're essentially looking at it through new eyes. You may notice things you never noticed before, or simply interpret things differently.

And that's even aside from reexperiencing something you've already experienced specifically because you want to scratch your own nostalgia itch or try to rekindle the feelings you had in the past the first time you experienced it.
 
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Night Hacker said:
Agreed, BUT, v1.0 should still be a full, completed version no matter what system you use
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Yeah, but some people who aren't professional devs and don't necessarily understand how version numbers work will use 1.0 to mean their first version, then 2.0 for their second version, and so on.

The real problem is when people try to figure out just how close to being finished a game is from the version number, which is kind of a fool's errand when most amateur devs don't even have a realistic idea of how close to being finished they are, and aren't using a consistent update number system.

The best scenario is when a dev says something like "The finished game will have 12 chapters, and this release is chapter 7" or "The game is about 50% done".
 
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cib64 said:
Recreation your game is absolutely stunning, the renders and animations are immaculate :PogChamp:, one of the best in the vns. When you play the game it's very clear that a lot of effort has been put to develop this game. Good luck for future development.
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I guess anyone can not argue with that. This game is too good to say something bad about it :giggle:
 
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Night Hacker said:
Agreed, BUT, v1.0 should still be a full, completed version no matter what system you use, and not every developer follows the same conventions as you describe. Heck, I programmed my own non-RenPY game and I used the date and time as my version, 22.03.21.2255. :)
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VI ? isn't that 6? what is the rationale for that?
 
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Night Hacker said:
Most visual novels I have seen are like 0.12 or whatever and never use 1.0 unless it is considered a completed version. Just do a search sometime. I don't know where you got this idea from.
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To be fair, most games on this site never actually GET to a completed version, they just sort of get half-assedly abandoned when the dev gets tired of working on it.
 
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Night Hacker said:
Most visual novels I have seen are like 0.12 or whatever and never use 1.0 unless it is considered a completed version. Just do a search sometime. I don't know where you got this idea from.
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Talking software in general.
 
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cxx said:
besides lack of updates.
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Unless recreation has a full team and their only job is working on this game, with the cuality of it, I'd say that's a little bit of a spoiled comment.
A lot, if not most, amateurs devs tend to make their game on the side of a traditional job, family life, and other personal stuff. Some games barely get an update a year with way way less quality than this one.
Ask yourself if you'd rather have to be patient to keep the quality, or get monthly updates that are ultra short, or see a huge dip in quality. Honestly, if recreation plans to keep that level, I know what I'd rather see.
 
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Krynh said:
Rec makes two games, Bad Memories and Tainted Heritage - a.k.a Weird Shit Is Going to Happen and he works on them on alternating schedules. Also a one-man team.
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Then it only strenghen my point. With the quality, both in visual and writting, for one single person ? I'm not surprised it takes him a while. Small price to pay for such quality.
 
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Rutonat said:
Then it only strenghen my point. With the quality, both in visual and writting, for one single person ? I'm not surprised it takes him a while. Small price to pay for such quality.
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I feel like three months is the bare minimum I expect for the average update to a fully amateur game (and often longer). Juggling two games spreads that out a bit, so maybe 6 months. Add in a little extra wiggle room for holidays or the occasional real life crisis.

I feel like Rec updates on a pace that's completely acceptable compared to other devs. I don't think I've ever really thought "Okay, this is getting ridiculous" or anything (and I've definitely thought that for other devs).

I think the only games that really update faster than that are ones where the dev is clearly just adding slight incremental changes each update so they can keep up the illusion of progress (or where the game has a team of people working on it).
 
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Rutonat said:
Every thread is, because there's always someone to say updates don't come often enough.
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Yes actually, but still it is not that bad. As you said earlier: better to get less often, but bigger updates than more often, but smaller ones. We just need to be patient and let recreation work. He's doing great so do not adjust him.

I want to become a patron, but I need to wait a little bit to get some money. As you know situation in my country (Ukraine) is not good right now, so...

Briefly: be patient and support recreation any way you can, because he deserved it <3
 
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