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If it is that old I would bet that the video card wont handle the resolution of these games.... If you have a traceback.txt file, and if the last line is " 'SWDraw' object has no attribute 'scale_fast' " I bet that is the case........
 
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If it is that old I would bet that the video card wont handle the resolution of these games.... If you have a traceback.txt file, and if the last line is " 'SWDraw' object has no attribute 'scale_fast' " I bet that is the case........
13 years old so agp quite likely or intel hd graphics x000 and not much memory on card.
 
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My computer is 13 years old. I'm sure that accounts for something.
What I did was a few years ago my PC was getting up there and I couldn't afford a lot, so I planned out what I wanted to buy, then I saved money each month and bought a new system one part at a time. Started with a new case and motherboard, then a month or two later, grabbed other parts like a video card, hard drive etc... took me nine months as I am not rolling in cash, but I managed to put together a nice upgrade with a video card that was okay. I then spent a year saving for a better video card, only $100 a month, but time flies and I managed to get something decent.

The beauty of doing it this way is no credit card debt, I done it all with cash, so I paid zero interest. Just required some patience. ;)
 
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i could get my hands on used pci-e radeons and geforces which can run any current renpy games w/o problems.
 
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If it is that old I would bet that the video card wont handle the resolution of these games.... If you have a traceback.txt file, and if the last line is " 'SWDraw' object has no attribute 'scale_fast' " I bet that is the case........
He could grab a cheap, used video card that would probably fix his problems. Even a low end card would be enough as he just needs to be able to handle 1080P with some basic, modern hardware acceleration etc... NVidia's cheapest cards, while not the fastest at 3D, are fine for gaming like this and would be an upgrade on the cheap.

Heck, there's someone who will give you one. I probably have a couple old cards, most people probably do that will do the trick cheap or free.
 

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Yeah 2009 (13 years ago) was still PCI-express graphics
But it could be integrated graphics which were dog shit

They still are. Amazing a computer lasted 13 years. First modern one I got was in late 2004. I'm on my fourth now and all of the previous the motherboard went. This one from June 2019.
 

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My computer is 13 years old. I'm sure that accounts for something.
What I haven't seen anybody ask, and I will - are you still using a 32-bit version of the operating system? I've worked with a lot of hardware that old (and more), and the biggest problem is people running ancient 32-bit installs when most RenPy games have since moved to 64-bit. Even if it's not the core game code itself, it could be the memory addressing limitations caused in 32-bit operating systems.
 
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They still are. Amazing a computer lasted 13 years. First modern one I got was in late 2004. I'm on my fourth now and all of the previous the motherboard went. This one from June 2019.
Shit I still have a working XP-Pro working :eek: Shit machine compared to the i-9 G11 but still has a purpose, and use....
 

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What I haven't seen anybody ask, and I will - are you still using a 32-bit version of the operating system? I've worked with a lot of hardware that old (and more), and the biggest problem is people running ancient 32-bit installs when most RenPy games have since moved to 64-bit. Even if it's not the core game code itself, it could be the memory addressing limitations caused in 32-bit operating systems.
It's probably the issue Robwood is having. I don't think a lot of computers run a 64 bits OS 13 years ago.
recreation didn't release a 32 bits version.
I think I read something about that some pages ago in this thread, and how to make the game working on 32 bits OS.
But I don't remember the solution, as I run a 64 bits Windows 10, and therefore didn't need it...
 

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Is just bug fix in this update? Any new content?
new content yes.


and about os bits, i moved to 64bits some years before win7 came (used xp 64bit) and when xp support ended moved to win7 64bit and then win10 64bit.
 
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It's probably the issue Robwood is having. I don't think a lot of computers run a 64 bits OS 13 years ago.
recreation didn't release a 32 bits version.
I think I read something about that some pages ago in this thread, and how to make the game working on 32 bits OS.
But I don't remember the solution, as I run a 64 bits Windows 10, and therefore didn't need it...
Yes. I am almost certain that is the issue. Even a potato should run Renpy just fine. It is very low in resources.

Try this:

Install Renpy SDK bit from the Renpy and run Bad Memories from Renpy 32 bit.
 
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They still are. Amazing a computer lasted 13 years. First modern one I got was in late 2004. I'm on my fourth now and all of the previous the motherboard went. This one from June 2019.
Seem to have been some good years for long-lasting hardware. Built my old PC in 2012 and just gave it a complete facelift a few months ago because I can work from home now thanks to Covid and 16 GB ram wasn't cutting it for that anymore.
Sure, newer games didn't run on higher settings anymore on my GTX 670, but they still looked so much better than a decade ago when it was just a blurry mess on those lower settings.
 
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Seem to have been some good years for long-lasting hardware. Build my old PC in 2012 and just gave it a complete facelift a few months ago because I can work from home now thanks to Covid and 16 GB ram wasn't cutting it for that anymore.
Sure, newer games didn't run on higher settings anymore on my GTX 670, but they still looked so much better than a decade ago when it was just a blurry mess on those lower settings.
You can do quite a bit to prop up older PCs, to be sure. I gifted my 2nd to last PC to a friend. i7-970 chip, buffed it up with 24GB memory, put an NVMe slot adapter in it(with 1TB drive) and a USB 3 adapter card. Polished it off with my now-retired 2080 GTX card. After that I put in Win10 Enterprise and she's off to the races, having a great time. It's vastly out-performing her laptop that she bought only 3-4 years ago (probably mostly due to the expanded RAM, honestly).

Then I gave her my spare 34" screen to go with it. Ellie and Jada on a large screen looks really nice.
 

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They said at Best Buy once the motherboard goes, replacing it is almost as expensive as buying a new computer - and the new one will be faster, etc. Of course they all come with those stupid integrated graphics chips, never a real graphics card unless you can afford thousands of dollars.
 
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They said at Best Buy once the motherboard goes, replacing it is almost as expensive as buying a new computer - and the new one will be faster, etc. Of course they all come with those stupid integrated graphics chips, never a real graphics card unless you can afford thousands of dollars.
Regarding the graphics card - really depends on what kind of power you need.
Do you do video editing/play in 4k? Do you need raytracing?

I settled for a GTX 1650 in February which suits my current needs just fine (can run current stuff and a lot of it on high at 1080p, despite being relatively cheap for I don't need it that often). (was ~270€ back then, ~220€ right now)
 

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Shit I still have a working XP-Pro working :eek: Shit machine compared to the i-9 G11 but still has a purpose, and use....
I still got a working Windows 98 SE computer with 8 Mb video card and also a XP Home machine with a 32 Mb video card.
FF7 back in the day worked great on the 8 Mb card and even better on the 32 Mb card.
 

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I appreciate the advice, everyone, but I'm not making any income right now, so saving money for or buying a graphics card is out of the question. Plus, I'm on a laptop.

What I haven't seen anybody ask, and I will - are you still using a 32-bit version of the operating system? I've worked with a lot of hardware that old (and more), and the biggest problem is people running ancient 32-bit installs when most RenPy games have since moved to 64-bit. Even if it's not the core game code itself, it could be the memory addressing limitations caused in 32-bit operating systems.
My computer's original OS was Windows Vista Home Premium. I had it upgraded to Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, which is the latest OS that can be installed on the system.
 

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They still are. Amazing a computer lasted 13 years. First modern one I got was in late 2004. I'm on my fourth now and all of the previous the motherboard went. This one from June 2019.
My last computer lasted me from 2009 until2019, with just one or two graphic card upgrades. Then my late wife used it as all she did was internet stuff, Facebook and whatnot, so it was plenty fast enough for her. I upgraded hers with my old parts. Right now, I still have the old system, it's a Windows 7 system with two HDDs, a 2TB and a 500G and it will get a 1050TI video card soon (my old one). It has a triple core AMD CPU. I originally built it when Windows 7 came out. I built the system I got now at the very end of Windows 7 support, to make sure most of the bugs in Windows 10 were ironed out, and most were by 2019, so I built a totally new system, as I do every time I switch OSes (fewer problems) with Windows 10 at that time.
 

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What I haven't seen anybody ask, and I will - are you still using a 32-bit version of the operating system? I've worked with a lot of hardware that old (and more), and the biggest problem is people running ancient 32-bit installs when most RenPy games have since moved to 64-bit. Even if it's not the core game code itself, it could be the memory addressing limitations caused in 32-bit operating systems.
OOooh, good question! Yeah, if it is from 2009, it more than likely will be 32bit. The latest version of RenPY 8.0 that came out on June 26th is now 64bit only. So.... time to upgrade that 32bit system folks! heheh
 
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