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As far as I understand from the developer's comments, Ellie theoretically lost her virginity with her toys.
Looks like it's probably Jada's work.
Jada was the first and last person Ellie started fucking.Until the mc showed up.
And again, judging by the developer's virgin comment, Ellie has never had a man's cock in her pussy.
He was smart not to add this tag even though he thought some of the girls in the game were virgins.
Because like other people, I find the whole dick virgin thing ridiculous.
 

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As far as I understand from the developer's comments, Ellie theoretically lost her virginity with her toys.
Looks like it's probably Jada's work.
Jada was the first and last person Ellie started fucking.Until the mc showed up.
And again, judging by the developer's virgin comment, Ellie has never had a man's cock in her pussy.
He was smart not to add this tag even though he thought some of the girls in the game were virgins.
Because like other people, I find the whole dick virgin thing ridiculous.
I mean every girl should lose her virginity with toys and further explore their sexuality without a man involved.

Being her first man is a more accurate tag, if we had a truer tag for this scenario.
 
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As far as I understand from the developer's comments, Ellie theoretically lost her virginity with her toys.
Looks like it's probably Jada's work.
Jada was the first and last person Ellie started fucking.Until the mc showed up.
And again, judging by the developer's virgin comment, Ellie has never had a man's cock in her pussy.
He was smart not to add this tag even though he thought some of the girls in the game were virgins.
Because like other people, I find the whole dick virgin thing ridiculous.
I mean every girl should lose her virginity with toys and further explore their sexuality without a man involved.

Being her first man is a more accurate tag, if we had a truer tag for this scenario.
There are many different ways to define virginity.

The presence of a hymen is one but not the only one. After all, the hymen can be torn in different ways, including non-sexual ones.
And of course guys can be virgins too, even if there is no physical way to distinguish a virgin male from a non-virgin male.

I think the definition "never had intercourse (meaning penis in vagina) with a man" is quite reasonable.

The definition "never had any sexual activity with another person" is also reasonable. Whether the other person needs to be of the opposite sex can be debatable as well.

Personally I am attracted to virgins. And personally I wouldn't really care if she penetrated herself with fingers, or even if she used toys. But if she had given another guy a blowjob but not vaginal sex, that would bother me. I would prefer a girl to have had no sexual partners but if she had experience with another girl (e.g. fooling around / not romantically) that would not bother me as much as if it were with another guy.

So I think what matters is how both partners perceive the topic of virginity, of themselves and of their partner. There are a lot of variations and a lot of opinions possible on every variation.
 

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There are many different ways to define virginity.

The presence of a hymen is one but not the only one. After all, the hymen can be torn in different ways, including non-sexual ones.
And of course guys can be virgins too, even if there is no physical way to distinguish a virgin male from a non-virgin male.

I think the definition "never had intercourse (meaning penis in vagina) with a man" is quite reasonable.

The definition "never had any sexual activity with another person" is also reasonable. Whether the other person needs to be of the opposite sex can be debatable as well.

Personally I am attracted to virgins. And personally I wouldn't really care if she penetrated herself with fingers, or even if she used toys. But if she had given another guy a blowjob but not vaginal sex, that would bother me. I would prefer a girl to have had no sexual partners but if she had experience with another girl (e.g. fooling around / not romantically) that would not bother me as much as if it were with another guy.

So I think what matters is how both partners perceive the topic of virginity, of themselves and of their partner. There are a lot of variations and a lot of opinions possible on every variation.
Reasonable, I do feel that if the girl is older and never had a unprotected sex is already a turn on being a first within realms of conception.
Although context matter, A younger LI can reasonable only sucked dicks/Or not if she is a Shy Naive Li, A older one you need a strong motive for her chastity, or it feels artifical just for plot sake .

And being honest, most cest enjoyers prefer a virgin protected by angels before MC, excluding his mom for obvs reasons.
 
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A older one you need a strong motive for her chastity
Dunno. I think the simple motive "the right guy never came along" is pretty reasonable. Even apart from religious reasons.

It also makes for a more slow burn story, which I think is more exciting and generally preferable to fucking on the second date. If "the right guy never came along" that means that you need to convince her that you are the right guy. That makes it special.

I don't know what you consider "older" but:


Consider that "average" means that for every person younger than the average, there must also be a person older.

So a person in their late 20's being a virgin is perhaps not the norm, it's also not completely out of the question.
 

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As far as I understand from the developer's comments, Ellie theoretically lost her virginity with her toys.
Looks like it's probably Jada's work.
Jada was the first and last person Ellie started fucking.Until the mc showed up.
And again, judging by the developer's virgin comment, Ellie has never had a man's cock in her pussy.
He was smart not to add this tag even though he thought some of the girls in the game were virgins.
Because like other people, I find the whole dick virgin thing ridiculous.
So, you don't consider yourself a virgin even though you've only ever gotten off via masturbation?
 

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So, you don't consider yourself a virgin even though you've only ever gotten off via masturbation?
If one has only engaged in sexual activity with themselves, they are most certainly virginal. That's kinda the whole point, you don't lose that until it becomes a multiplayer game.
 

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If one has only engaged in sexual activity with themselves, they are most certainly virginal. That's kinda the whole point, you don't lose that until it becomes a multiplayer game.
This discussion is so profound! No offense Ilhares, I don't mean to criticise you at all. But I can't help laughing when I think of my first experience of that monoplayer game, I must have been ten, and I didn't ask myself if I still was a virgin, well preserved for my future wife, I didn't even know what it meant. Same when I first went to a confessional and the priest asked me if I had sinned against flesh (sin against flesh? what can that be?). :ROFLMAO:
 
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If one has only engaged in sexual activity with themselves, they are most certainly virginal. That's kinda the whole point, you don't lose that until it becomes a multiplayer game.
Kind of my point.

These backwards types that consider any female with a broken hymen, no matter the reason, to not be a virgin simply due to a thin little membrane of flesh not being intact just astound me. It doesn't matter what a female has put inside herself - as long as it isn't an actual, living penis, she's still a virgin. If it belongs to her dog (or other non-homo sapien), it's debatable.
 

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It doesn't matter what a female has put insider herself - as long as it isn't an actual, living penis, she's still a virgin. If it belongs to her dog (or other non-homo sapien), it's debatable.
right on 1st.

or pet monkey/gorilla or horse. :p
 
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Oof losing V to a creature with lesser intellect, an animal is true depraved and red lights roaring crazy.
 

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Oof losing V to a creature with lesser intellect, an animal is true depraved and red lights roaring crazy.
Some people say that women are generally smarter than men. Often they have at least a higher education level.

But is it right if a woman with a Ph.D. in social studies gets deflowered by a mere M.Sc.? Or is a M.Sc. in physics equivalent to a Ph.D. in social studies?

Do all men without high school diploma die as virgins?

Questions, questions... :unsure:
 

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Some people say that women are generally smarter than men. Often they have at least a higher education level.

But is it right if a woman with a Ph.D. in social studies gets deflowered by a mere M.Sc.? Or is a M.Sc. in physics equivalent to a Ph.D. in social studies?

Do all men without high school diploma die as virgins?

Questions, questions... :unsure:
haha was talking more about dog fuckers, but this segway is kinda funny as hypergamy is ruthless tho.
 
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when will,m be get a1 n update?? this game takes forever...rework cost a lot of delay and it changed what?? adwise the dev to deliver soon cuz this great game is loosing is appeal after so long time ,damn. i wantr to discover how thingswill go and what happened to mother and sister..pls dev deliver the update...thanks
 
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