ClockworkGnome

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Why did you even include the menu entry for Rachel's Story if the content for it doesn't even exist yet? :unsure:
Could be a technical thing. Like it's easier to add the menu button first and then set what it links to later, rather than building the entire rest of the game first and then going back to edit the original menu.

Or it could just be an organizational thing. Sort of like a reminder to the dev to keep it in mind as a goal, combined with a tease to the player that it'll eventually be an option (which will presumably allow you to see the same story from a different perspective).
 
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This and corrupted downloads are sometimes mistakes you can find when using nopy. I suggest you try again later or use another host.
 

moose_puck

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The MEGA link is also being a bitch. It's downloading, but at like 50 Kb/s - 9 hour download, nope.. no thanks. Usually with Mega, I get 3-4 Meg down. With Nopy, 30-40 Meg down.

Update: after about 10 mins, Mega started flowing again. Nopy still broken.
 

ClockworkGnome

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Nopy says nope?
Joke aside, I had trouble with it today as well, it seems to be a server problem. I'd suspect someone is working on it already.
Yeah, was having multiple issues with Nopy yesterday for other stuff, so there's a good chance it's something on their end.
 

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nope.

Edit: to your edit. errrr... not in that one^^
Jesus Fukn Chrysanthemum that was pretty hot for a scene without a redhead.

Daddy + Daughter >>> Siblings (For me, that's also part of it)

I mean Ellie is still one of the hottest LIs in any game I play (I hate to sort the top 5 other than they are in top 5) but that was something.


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Hello, I'm JokerLeader a user from this amazing Forum.
This is my first Walkthrough that i have created, if i got any grammar errors, just know that english it's not my speaking language. Thank you.
I hope recreation approve of this Walkthrough.

P.S. Thanks to the Dev recreation, for the game and the extra help in this walkthrough, and a thank you to afterlights for the help with the grammar.

Any update to this yet? I would just like to know what day in the game we're up to yet...9, 10, 11?
 

Machete

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I must admit i really like this game, characters, design and storywise. But i can't help complaining about the unavoidable sex scenes. In general i think there shouldn't be any unless it's strongly connected to the story and this seems to be the case, yet, why can't you avoid to molest MC's stepmother? Really? Why it's always the motherly figure when you can't avoid sex scenes? It's a major offputting, imho.
 

jaw1986baby

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I must admit i really like this game, characters, design and storywise. But i can't help complaining about the unavoidable sex scenes. In general i think there shouldn't be any unless it's strongly connected to the story and this seems to be the case, yet, why can't you avoid to molest MC's stepmother? Really? Why it's always the motherly figure when you can't avoid sex scenes? It's a major offputting, imho.
VNs in general have a lot less choice than Adult Games
And they still vary from one to another

The story in this needs some things to happen or the alternate path is the main story doesn't happen. So it isn't uncommon to see things happen you didn't choose when the story drives them.

There are games out there that are clear about higher levels of choice you might like.

But this isn't going to change.



PEACE
 

Machete

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VNs in general have a lot less choice than Adult Games
And they still vary from one to another

The story in this needs some things to happen or the alternate path is the main story doesn't happen. So it isn't uncommon to see things happen you didn't choose when the story drives them.

There are games out there that are clear about higher levels of choice you might like.

But this isn't going to change.



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Indeed, as i said, "unless it's strongly connected to the story". But in general i take it as a symptom at misleaded design. As i often point, VNs are in the "choose your own adventure" category of games. Therefore they are supposed to let you choose your own adventure as much as the platform allows (which, yes, it's not much to begin with but still a dev should make the most of it). Since those are erotic/porn/dating simulator games, "your own adventure" orbits around to which LI you will pursuit. So, in general, "you WILL pursuit this LI and maybe some other" is not a good approach. IMHO.
 

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Indeed, as i said, "unless it's strongly connected to the story". But in general i take it as a symptom at misleaded design. As i often point, VNs are in the "choose your own adventure" category of games. Therefore they are supposed to let you choose your own adventure as much as the platform allows (which, yes, it's not much to begin with but still a dev should make the most of it). Since those are erotic/porn/dating simulator games, "your own adventure" orbits around to which LI you will pursuit. So, in general, "you WILL pursuit this LI and maybe some other" is not a good approach. IMHO.
Yeah but the choose your own adventure is easy to create strongly divergent paths when the medium is written words alone. When you want to render scenes it is a whole new world. Most VNs choices lead to what type of text you want for the MC but the scenes don't change behind it. I have played them from pure MC to dark MC in games and the words are the only part really changing. So if you have a choice that is "do you want this LI or not" then you simply add a mechanism to skip any scene in the future for those you reject. But if they need to be around for the story (Rachel and Ellie absolutely do 100% ), you can't put a skip. Then to create the story where you have Rachel touched versus Rachel not touched is a big digression and you would need separate renders for the physical contact level between the two to go along with the text changes and on top of that we have 2 possible MCs. Simply a ridiculous level of render work to add that option which isn't what was in your vision. So quite often "Novel" wins over all else. Look at games that try to give you VN and significant choices and how long it takes to put out new content. It is tremendously long and gets longer every update. Many of those devs aren't even 4 version releases in when they take a year to put out the next. So yeah unrealistic.


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Indeed, as i said, "unless it's strongly connected to the story". But in general i take it as a symptom at misleaded design. As i often point, VNs are in the "choose your own adventure" category of games. Therefore they are supposed to let you choose your own adventure as much as the platform allows (which, yes, it's not much to begin with but still a dev should make the most of it). Since those are erotic/porn/dating simulator games, "your own adventure" orbits around to which LI you will pursuit. So, in general, "you WILL pursuit this LI and maybe some other" is not a good approach. IMHO.
You're right, a good portion of VNs are in this category - they tend to be the more 'sandboxy' ones, though.
The others are more oriented towards the novel-part and not as open.

Even in text format, it is time-consuming to write all those alternate content paths. In VNs, this means you also have to script and most important build the scenes for and do the renders for those paths. And in case you want to tell a specific story, that is a lot of resources used for something that isn't your focus.

Regardless of what choices you implement - there will always be those, that would like to have another choice in there.
Also, unless they tell us, only the devs know what will happen in the future, and if something we don't see a reason in has to be like that or not to make sense.

I'd advocate to trust in a dev to make good decisions for the story they want to tell.
In the end, I just don't think the 'open sandbox' style is better than others per se or the holy grail of VN development.
 
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