VN Ren'Py Onhold Banking on Bella [v0.08a] [Profile Game Studios]

[-CookieMonster666-]

Plenty of sex, but haven't been able to bang Bella yet.

We're banking on Bella to take a while to bed.

 

[PleaseDontReadMyUser]

Why isn't the page working for me??

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Why isn't the page working for me??

What do you mean by "the page"? What do you mean by "isn't working"? Please be much more specific or no one will be able to help you.

 

[Pornfather 3000]

Dang, am a little sad to hear this If my opinion is worth anything, I actually REALLY like how you structure the game with so many choices... and am really honestly confused how someone could manage to play through without bedding a single chick... if they don't like any of the girls maybe and purposefully skip them, but then what are they doing playing this game? Your game is one of the few sex games here that gets me excited for an update, which makes me feel even more guilty for not being a patron because my financial situation right now is ass.

Also, perhaps you should consider that your patron count has more to do with luck (or lack thereof) than anything? I mean, look at Radiant (I'm not here to crap on that game btw, I'm actually a fan, and don't want to derail your thread with a potential argument, so bear with me haha).. they frustrate lots of people with their update schedule such that I don't even want to touch that game's thread with a ten foot pole, yet they also manage to get quite a few patrons.... I genuinely think some devs are just a little more lucky than others, as unfortunately, hard work and results don't always correlate I hope with time your patron count grows because I genuinely am blown away by the combination of update frequency, amount of girls to interact with, amount of routes and scenes per girl (good guy, evil asshole, etc.), quality of writing and especially dialogue, pacing, and quality of renders. I like the pacing of this game and the fact that you go between different girls in different days and honestly think that once this game is finished, people won't have as much trouble remembering who's who or what's what (like another commenter mentioned) because they won't have to put it down for months between updates.


So soon after your latest update, hmmm... Is your sexy game at all related to this promotion? Perhaps the higher ups are fans? Kidding, of course, haha. Congrats!

Thanks Phil! Like we've always said, support doesn't have to be financial. Just kind comments encouragement, nice ratings etc. help keep us going. By that measure your a top tier supporter.

In order for a player not to get laid, a player would have to be actively turning down girls. I think some players look at images and they want a particular girl, turn down others encountered and then are let down b/c particular girl isn't having sex with them yet, IDK.

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates. I'm trying to be more realistic. People have sex usually by the third or fourth date or it never is going to happen. I use time as the progression. Once it's decided its not going to be just a kiss, next time a hug or whatever. It's going to go from 0 to 65 or 100, with each girl. In real life, dates don't happen back to back to back, they are spaced over time. IDK if that makes sense to people.

 

[imadumb]

Thanks Phil! Like we've always said, support doesn't have to be financial. Just kind comments encouragement, nice ratings etc. help keep us going. By that measure your a top tier supporter.

In order for a player not to get laid, a player would have to be actively turning down girls. I think some players look at images and they want a particular girl, turn down others encountered and then are let down b/c particular girl isn't having sex with them yet, IDK.

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates. I'm trying to be more realistic. People have sex usually by the third or fourth date or it never is going to happen. I use time as the progression. Once it's decided its not going to be just a kiss, next time a hug or whatever. It's going to go from 0 to 65 or 100, with each girl. In real life, dates don't happen back to back to back, they are spaced over time. IDK if that makes sense to people.

People care so much about sex scenes... most of them can't apreciate a true masterpiece, like, the "date" with Mallorie, this was always better than almost every other game on a MC see someone and get laid 10 min after this e.e

 

[Kassan06969]

Thanks Phil! Like we've always said, support doesn't have to be financial. Just kind comments encouragement, nice ratings etc. help keep us going. By that measure your a top tier supporter.

In order for a player not to get laid, a player would have to be actively turning down girls. I think some players look at images and they want a particular girl, turn down others encountered and then are let down b/c particular girl isn't having sex with them yet, IDK.

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates. I'm trying to be more realistic. People have sex usually by the third or fourth date or it never is going to happen. I use time as the progression. Once it's decided its not going to be just a kiss, next time a hug or whatever. It's going to go from 0 to 65 or 100, with each girl. In real life, dates don't happen back to back to back, they are spaced over time. IDK if that makes sense to people.

Yeah, when they do that it's annoying. Hand job does nothing for me (foot job a turn off.) I hate when they think you should have to play like 3 hours worth of game time to get any actual sex (vaginal or anal.) Also any sort of grinding is a big no. Glad you saw that that sort of thing is too dragged out.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

In order for a player not to get laid, a player would have to be actively turning down girls. I think some players look at images and they want a particular girl, turn down others encountered and then are let down b/c particular girl isn't having sex with them yet, IDK.

Yeah, I don't know man... if that's a thing that actually happens a lot, that's on them imo, not you. This must be a thing for basically every sex game because they all have this, right? A number of girls who each get sexual content later? WVM, Grandma's House, Friends in Need, Radiant, etc. I don't know what the most popular games on here are, but I can't see them being any different. I feel like it's just impossible to avoid unless the game is massively rushed in terms of writing.

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates. I'm trying to be more realistic. People have sex usually by the third or fourth date or it never is going to happen. I use time as the progression. Once it's decided its not going to be just a kiss, next time a hug or whatever. It's going to go from 0 to 65 or 100, with each girl. In real life, dates don't happen back to back to back, they are spaced over time. IDK if that makes sense to people.

Absolutely, man; I definitely noticed this and I'm SOOOO pleased that you've avoided that irritating trope because it takes you out of the game imo. I get why a porn game author would want to do that, and I guess it does actually make perfect sense for incest content, but for everything else, it's just not very compelling or immersive. Your game, on the other hand, has a very nice compromise between realism and sexy fantasy that results in a really great, addicting atmosphere and that is definitely partly owed to the pace you've set with progression. Maybe others don't feel the same, but to hell with them hah.

 

[sdawg1234]

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates. I'm trying to be more realistic. People have sex usually by the third or fourth date or it never is going to happen.

This makes you a hero in my book. Especially when games make you wait months for an update and all you do is go from kiss to hand job.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Also, one thing I tried to avoid was the porn game progression, you know, peak, hug, hug slip hand on ass, kiss, french kiss, feel tit, hand job, tit job, blow job, so on and so forth over 10-20 updates.

Is that why it takes me so long to find a girlfriend? Crap. I thought these games were supposed to be life advice.

 

[DA22]

Is that why it takes me so long to find a girlfriend? Crap. I thought these games were supposed to be life advice.

True and even for incest that stairway to heaven makes little sense unless both parties inexperienced, what can be important is reasons why they break a taboo if have one and that one is almost never answered really beyond what is really there already from start of games and makes no more sense after going slow.

One thing I noticed though that may help the devs in future is time delay between dark patch and release. Patch is always later and that might lead to people forgetting about game while waiting for patch. Maybe delay publication until patch available. For the rest interesting game.

 

[Pornfather 3000]

People care so much about sex scenes... most of them can't apreciate a true masterpiece, like, the "date" with Mallorie, this was always better than almost every other game on a MC see someone and get laid 10 min after this e.e

Very kind of you to say and I'm really happy you and others enjoyed your time with Mallorie. That was some of the most enjoyable writing I think I've done for the game. I love the way their personalities play off each other b/c they're very different people but find they ultimately have something in common, in music. Now will that be enough? Time will tell.

Yeah, when they do that it's annoying. Hand job does nothing for me (foot job a turn off.) I hate when they think you should have to play like 3 hours worth of game time to get any actual sex (vaginal or anal.) Also any sort of grinding is a big no. Glad you saw that that sort of thing is too dragged out.

Yeah, I played porn games for a while before trying to make one and I felt like deja vu over and over with the progress thing and it just didn't feel real to me. I also despise grind and sandbox. God bless to all who love it. You do you. But I thought there had to be a btr way but...maybe there isn't lol. IDK this is all an experiment.

Yeah, I don't know man... if that's a thing that actually happens a lot, that's on them imo, not you. This must be a thing for basically every sex game because they all have this, right? A number of girls who each get sexual content later? WVM, Grandma's House, Friends in Need, Radiant, etc. I don't know what the most popular games on here are, but I can't see them being any different. I feel like it's just impossible to avoid unless the game is massively rushed in terms of writing.

Absolutely, man; I definitely noticed this and I'm SOOOO pleased that you've avoided that irritating trope because it takes you out of the game imo. I get why a porn game author would want to do that, and I guess it does actually make perfect sense for incest content, but for everything else, it's just not very compelling or immersive. Your game, on the other hand, has a very nice compromise between realism and sexy fantasy that results in a really great, addicting atmosphere and that is definitely partly owed to the pace you've set with progression. Maybe others don't feel the same, but to hell with them hah.

IDK if it happens a ton (people not getting laid in game). But I do think it drives almost 50-80% of our negative feedback just looking at comments and ratings. But maybe that's my perception and not reality IDK. Thanks for the kind words. When we hit family fun that is going to be some of the most difficult writing I think I do, making that real. If you played the fan patch with Abby, I begin to foreshadow how you/MC will turn that corner. It's only there for now. But that foreshadowing will pop up elsewhere if that is the players thing.

Next hardest writing was making Stacy relatable and likable b/c most of you were guns a blazing on first release with an understandable hard no lol.

This makes you a hero in my book. Especially when games make you wait months for an update and all you do is go from kiss to hand job.

Right?!? Thanks for the kind comment!

True and even for incest that stairway to heaven makes little sense unless both parties inexperienced, what can be important is reasons why they break a taboo if have one and that one is almost never answered really beyond what is really there already from start of games and makes no more sense after going slow.

One thing I noticed though that may help the devs in future is time delay between dark patch and release. Patch is always later and that might lead to people forgetting about game while waiting for patch. Maybe delay publication until patch available. For the rest interesting game.

Thanks, yeah I don't deal with the distribution but I agree. Whomever distributes that patch should release it BEFORE the general game gets released so its out there.

 

[Kassan06969]

Yeah, sandbox sucks ass, too. Don't know why so many use it when most players seem to hate it. It's like, just go where you're supposed to rather than try to figure out where it is on a map, unless it's an open world type game.

 

[Pornfather 3000]

Yeah, sandbox sucks ass, too. Don't know why so many use it when most players seem to hate it. It's like, just go where you're supposed to rather than try to figure out where it is on a map, unless it's an open world type game.

Less work for dev. Its also why many add grind and limit meaningful choice.

 

[Kassan06969]

Less work for dev. Its also why many add grind and limit meaningful choice.

I would think adding a map instead of just going to the next scene would be MORE work. Not sure how adding grind rather than not having to raise any sort of attributes or such would be less work rather than more. Limiting choices, of course. Also annoying AF is when you have to have so high a relationship with a character for anything to happen and missing any little thing means nothing ever happens with them throughout the game.

 

[Pornfather 3000]

The map usually has only so many locations. Once programmed it that's it. You basically gate keep. You don't have to work on a scene until you're ready b/c they player needs a thousand points or whatever going to point A (school), talking to teacher, go to point b, so on and so fourth 5-10 times before any additional content. Only to find out there is no new content and wont be until the dev gets around to after people hit 100 points of X. I'm prob not explaining this well.

 

[imadumb]

Very kind of you to say and I'm really happy you and others enjoyed your time with Mallorie. That was some of the most enjoyable writing I think I've done for the game. I love the way their personalities play off each other b/c they're very different people but find they ultimately have something in common, in music. Now will that be enough? Time will tell.


Yeah, I played porn games for a while before trying to make one and I felt like deja vu over and over with the progress thing and it just didn't feel real to me. I also despise grind and sandbox. God bless to all who love it. You do you. But I thought there had to be a btr way but...maybe there isn't lol. IDK this is all an experiment.



IDK if it happens a ton (people not getting laid in game). But I do think it drives almost 50-80% of our negative feedback just looking at comments and ratings. But maybe that's my perception and not reality IDK. Thanks for the kind words. When we hit family fun that is going to be some of the most difficult writing I think I do, making that real. If you played the fan patch with Abby, I begin to foreshadow how you/MC will turn that corner. It's only there for now. But that foreshadowing will pop up elsewhere if that is the players thing.

Next hardest writing was making Stacy relatable and likable b/c most of you were guns a blazing on first release with an understandable hard no lol.


Right?!? Thanks for the kind comment!


Thanks, yeah I don't deal with the distribution but I agree. Whomever distributes that patch should release it BEFORE the general game gets released so its out there.

U did a great work for sure, Date with her is on my top 3 best moments in all novels haha :3 i loved it

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Pre-apology for wall of text... I promise to type less from here on out haha.

IDK if it happens a ton (people not getting laid in game). But I do think it drives almost 50-80% of our negative feedback just looking at comments and ratings. But maybe that's my perception and not reality IDK.

Hmmm.... interesting. I'm not a dev of course, but man that feedback is so confusing to me lol... the only explanation I can think of would be an insult to those players with the negative feedback, so I'll just leave it at that haha.

When we hit family fun that is going to be some of the most difficult writing I think I do, making that real. If you played the fan patch with Abby, I begin to foreshadow how you/MC will turn that corner. It's only there for now. But that foreshadowing will pop up elsewhere if that is the players thing.

Looking forward to it man! I trust you! and the fan patch dev I don't necessarily think it has to go at a snail's pace or anything, but a lot of incest games do tend to forget the entire reason why incest play is so arousing, and that's the taboo nature of it... which really, imo, demands a much bigger build-up than a normal relationship obviously. I've played a few games where you're literally toying with the idea to each other or even straight to fucking in surprisingly few scenes.... wtf is supposed to be hot about that? Or games that take what I see as a hippie route, where the characters talk about free love and all this... sometimes even to the point where there's this big reveal to other characters and... SURPRISE they're very understanding and accepting because they, too, believe in free love! Or they're hesitant at first, but then they come around. I don't know, it just removes all the appeal for me when there's no danger of consequences or a feeling that a line has been crossed. Er, but regardless of what you're planning, I will enjoy it I think Not trying to sound entitled to a specific writing decision or anything.. "you must do what you feel is right of course" and all that

Next hardest writing was making Stacy relatable and likable b/c most of you were guns a blazing on first release with an understandable hard no lol.

Haha, yeah... tbh, I was concerned that her route was gonna be an NTR one or something, BUT... I was 100% willing to take a chance and I'm glad I did! I was expecting some really nice revenge and punishment on the dark route and so far so good, didn't expect the weird threesome/sort-of-foursome, but enjoyed it ultimately. Even the lighter route has a really hot car scene and lets you do some domination play, I really liked that... and she seems like a nice enough chick.. I guess her character flaw that has hurt the MC is fear of commitment? Or not feeling totally sure about how she feels about the MC? Not knowing where to go with a relationship or feeling pressure about where to take it or about limiting her options etc., which makes sense for someone that is supposed to be young. That's my understanding of it, anyways. I think people need to be a little more open to character arcs because it can be interesting when a character starts off in a position where you don't like them, but then it evolves to something better. Especially when you can just be a pos to them if it doesn't work out

 

[Crazy_Chicken87]

What ever happend to the girl you fucked in college if you did get her pregnant? Like do we get to see our child and tell the woman A. we have changed or B. I'm still a bastard but maybe I can change? Btw, I haven't played since two updates ago.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

What ever happend to the girl you fucked in college if you did get her pregnant? Like do we get to see our child and tell the woman A. we have changed or B. I'm still a bastard but maybe I can change? Btw, I haven't played since two updates ago.

So . . . you haven't played for two updates because you're wanting more time with the girl from college? Or are you just curious since you haven't gotten around to this for the past couple of releases? Either way, at least for now, nothing more than masturbatory fantasies for the MC of her. I have no idea whether she'll ever be in the MC's life again, although I suppose it's possible. So far, though, there isn't any more.

 

[Crazy_Chicken87]

So . . . you haven't played for two updates because you're wanting more time with the girl from college? Or are you just curious since you haven't gotten around to this for the past couple of releases? Either way, at least for now, nothing more than masturbatory fantasies for the MC of her. I have no idea whether she'll ever be in the MC's life again, although I suppose it's possible. So far, though, there isn't any more.

Kinda both tbh but I can wait til more content.