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When I saw that the dev from 'Come Home' recommended this game, I immediately looked for it here to try it out. I played through what's available (up to ch.4), and... well, it certainly tries to travel the same path of deep characters, multiple relationships, vanilla romances, and high quality storytelling. Unfortunately, it misses the mark.

The story: Shelby's background was compelling, and definitely deserved more exploration. His relationship with his dad was so wholesome, and the witness protection angle was unique and could have been really, really engaging. Even the little bit the dev gave us (about masking an accent, moving a lot, 'learning' a new name) was fascinating. I wish this got more attention.

The characters: Shelby(MC) aside, I felt as though everyone other than Sadie and Mora were so flat you could slide them beneath a closed door. Let's run through them -
Heidi offers MC a room because she thinks he is attractive? Reverse that, and it's creepy AF. The casual way she opines about walking in on him in the shower, or deciding to leave the bedroom door open *the first night he moves in* WITHOUT giving Athena the choice to opt out of being spied on during sex is just gross. I disliked her enough to 'nope' her from the start - a first, for games of this genre.

Athena didn't bother me as much, but following her romantic arc was so confusing and poorly paced. It felt like she went from playing video games with her cousin and MC, to confessing her love for him the next time they hung out (get used to that, it happens a lot). Uh... what? Shouldn't there be some steps in between? No buildup at all, no reason for the player to be invested in choosing her.

Valeria was who I chose for MC by the end, but it was more out of pity than because I thought the romance was set up well. I liked the way she could relate to MC's tragic past with her own, but.... again, just like with Heidi, wtf was that introduction??? As a recap, she's sitting in a bar and decides *at first sight* that MC is going to be her FWB for the next 4 years until he finishes college. She's 42 years old and beautiful and wealthy, but needs only a single glance and a beer order to decide that? No concern about personality, or background, or beliefs? Just "oh, you're the first college freshman I met this semester, let's fuck and btw, go get a STD test bc I don't like condoms, but feel free to screw anyone else you'd like." Because of all this, Valeria made no sense to me.

Sadie was one of the two bright spots. At least her instantaneous attraction to the MC was justified. I did sort of wish she stayed chunky, though. Even with her, however, there's very little in the way of romance shown. They meet one or two times, then "7 WEEKS GO BY" and he's finger-banging his cousin in the gym. Weird. Nonetheless, she was one of the best relationship choices in the game, despite a pretty weird continuity error after the Halloween party.

Zenda was another woman with just absolutely zero pacing. MC meets her on the way to college and they chat on the train (nice! relatable!). Naturally, she instantaneously decides to invest her time molding him into a proper boyfriend (for unknown reasons) and investing huge sums of $$ into said project. It's Heidi all over again. Why does Zenda like Shelby? What makes him worth her - a beautiful, cosmopolitan heiress - time? Because the game demands she does, of course! Quit asking questions!

And lastly, we have Mora, who was the shining diamond in a box of gravel, character-wise. She had a sympathetic backstory (like Valeria), a completely understandable reason to be interested in the MC (that's explored in a realistic manner), and the romance progresses at a sane pace. She's well-written, to the point that you (as the player) want her life to improve and for her to be happy. She even acts like a virgin, with... what, 4 or 5 months of in-game time passing before she goes 'all the way'. Two thumbs up, there.

Again, I want to emphasize that as a run-of-the-mill, vanilla porn game, Bare Witness is perfectly fine. The renders are solid, there are choices and options, there's frequent sex. But - and maybe I'm completely off-base here - I don't think that was the dev's aim. Based on the story, the amount of dialogue and character background info, the thematic narrative that revolves around relationships rather than sex, I feel like that's a fair assumption to make. But when the pacing is set at a rate you'd find in a Brazzer's clip, the characters don't fit with the story. Why try to make a 'serious' story if that's the foundation of reality you're building on? Just make a straight up 'Grandma's House' VN, where there's no story and just 100% porn.

Wow. I like Come Home, but don't feel that the romances there come even close to those in Bare Witness.
For one, way too many love interests, to go anywhere near that deep.
Due to the whole "phone to set up a date thing" and the sandbox it seems way more like a Dating Sim than a Visual Novel. Again, I like it, but if anything it is way more shallow than Bare Witness, like you can basically date EVERY single love interest despite them knowing about it. It's just weird how things look completely opposite to me.
 
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fh321

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Wow. I like Come Home, but don't feel that the romances there come even close to those in Bare Witness.
For one, way too many love interests, to go anywhere near that deep.
Due to the whole "phone to set up a date thing" and the sandbox it seems way more like a Dating Sim than a Visual Novel. Again, I like it, but if anything it is way more shallow than Bare Witness, like you can basically date EVERY single love interest despite them knowing about it. It's just weird how things look completely opposite to me.
Loved hearing your perspective! I'd def agree it (Come Home) is like a dating sim. I think so is Bare Witness, though! The thing I liked more about Come Home, was that the characters make more sense [to me]. The writing allows their motivations, interests, and personalities to shine through. And while there are 20(!!) characters, several of them are relatively minor (I'm thinking specifically of the teacher that has the MC sleep with her in front of her hubby). The dozen or so 'main' LIs, though, get a lot of room to breathe. There's never any sense of rushing through the story, and several times the narrative arcs intersect (like Reba with Mari).

I think that's what made me enjoy it so much. Despite the A-plot being sci-fi and dimension hopping, it felt much more realistic than Bare Witness.
 

Ass prefer

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Greetings. I still did not understand the author abandoned the game? he kind of started making the last chapter two years ago and I even saw the news that the chapter was 99% ready, according to my feelings, it was a very long time ago.... I don't know what to think :(
 

Maviarab

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Greetings. I still did not understand the author abandoned the game? he kind of started making the last chapter two years ago and I even saw the news that the chapter was 99% ready, according to my feelings, it was a very long time ago.... I don't know what to think :(
Maybe leave thinking for people with more critical skills and sense eh?

It wasn't 2 years ago, it's not abandoned....
 

HornyyPussy

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Maybe you could do have gone back through the last couple of pages and found out yourself?

Last episode, Patreons voted for (rightly imo) to have all endings at once rather than be drip fed the endings. Few weeks away from being completed.
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Ass prefer

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Maybe you could do have gone back through the last couple of pages and found out yourself?

Last episode, Patreons voted for (rightly imo) to have all endings at once rather than be drip fed the endings. Few weeks away from being completed.
thanks, we could do without the first half of your offer :)
 

SonsOfLiberty

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Then maybe you can share with me the knowledge about what's going on with the game? please
You could have just checked Patreon before even making a post considering there is a public post about beta testing starting and having people's names in the credits for the final version...
 
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Ass prefer

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You could have just checked Patreon before even making a post considering there is a public post about beta testing starting and having people's names in the credits for the final version...
to be honest, I was too lazy to do it. I don't like going into a million apps like patreon, discord, Twitter and looking for the information I need there. So I decided to just politely ask the people here :)
 

Abhai

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now for some (hard) facts:
as per current f95z rules this thread deserves "abandoned" tag as the last update (v0.4b) was on October, 12, 2022.
(dont mind those december dates in OP, those are wrong, for whatever the reason could be).

wont be the first and probably wont be the last time if those rules dont apply here.
they are quite flexible, the same way as many other rules unfortunately.

for those with with "deep knowledge" on the game, and for those without any knowledge, here is the patreon post announcing 0.4 release dates:
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0.4 was released a few days earlier, n October, 12, as mentioned before:
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congrats to the devs and their supporters for pulling it that long...they certainly arent the only one in that regard and that is an actual beauty behind it!

have a nice convo,
daffy over and out.
 
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now for some (hard) facts:
as per current f95z rules this thread deserves "abandoned" tag as the last update (v0.4b) was on October, 12, 2022.
(dont mind those december dates in OP, those are wrong, for whatever the reason could be).

wont be the first and probably wont be the last time if those rules dont apply here.
they are quite flexible, the same way as many other rules unfortunately.

for those with with "deep knowledge" on the game, and for those without any knowledge, here is the patreon post announcing 0.4 release dates:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
0.4 was released a few days earlier, n October, 12, as mentioned before:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
congrats to the devs and their supporters for pulling it that long...they certainly arent the only one in that regard and that is an actual beauty behind it!

have a nice convo,
daffy over and out.
Even if the thread got the abandoned tag what difference would it make?
You think the dev will drop the update cause a pirate forum is calling it abandoned? I don't think they will.
You think the supporters will stop giving money cause a pirate forum tagged the game as abandoned after supporting the devs for more than a year with no release? I doubt that too.
I just don't understand why so many on this website have a hardon for the abandoned tag, it's not even that sexy...
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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now for some (hard) facts:
as per current f95z rules this thread deserves "abandoned" tag as the last update (v0.4b) was on October, 12, 2022.
(dont mind those december dates in OP, those are wrong, for whatever the reason could be).

wont be the first and probably wont be the last time if those rules dont apply here.
they are quite flexible, the same way as many other rules unfortunately.

for those with with "deep knowledge" on the game, and for those without any knowledge, here is the patreon post announcing 0.4 release dates:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
0.4 was released a few days earlier, n October, 12, as mentioned before:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
congrats to the devs and their supporters for pulling it that long...they certainly arent the only one in that regard and that is an actual beauty behind it!

have a nice convo,
daffy over and out.
December dates are not wrong. v0.4b came out Decemember.
 
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