Nurikabe

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I wish that the kiss during the exhibition scene was optional versus Claire just going for it. I am making a huge assumption here that the game is not going to split the fence regarding NTR with Claire fucking others or give the user the option to stay with her being faithful on the exhibition path (I don't consider a kiss faithful). Or maybe there won't be that kind of pathing at all. It will all be with the intention that she is going to screw whoever she wants with or without the MC's permission.

If it is similar to the previous version of the game, there was no hiding that it was an interracial cuckold game. But the current version seems to give the reader the impression that there would be options, sharing, cheating, cuckolding, and exhibition. So, again, I am making a huge assumption in thinking that this is just a straight-up NTR game.

I would play it either way but enjoy it much more if there were those options.

Edit: Re-reading that, I sound like a whiney brat that wants the game his way. That is honestly not the case. I like it. I just wish the big decision scenes had the choice. ;)
 
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panyan

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I never assume that an update is coming until I see the link. That way I never feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick that football. Fuck you, Lucy. All jokes aside it is just good practice to allow yourself to be surprised by an update rather than sweating out when one will come.
Welcome to the side of Nirvana...Now you will see with true open sight how all the ignorant suffers with false hope and frustration for an update
 

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If it is similar to the previous version of the game, there was no hiding that it was an interracial cuckold game. But the current version seems to give the reader the impression that there would be options, sharing, cheating, cuckolding, and exhibition.
I continue to think that this is a huge part of the problem. The dev's real interest is in only one of those paths, but because he feels like he has to satisfy other preferences to broaden his audience, he gets bogged down doing things that he's a lot less interested in. I suspect that, if he'd chosen to go all in on a cuckolding kinetic novel, this would've been done ages ago.
 

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I continue to think that this is a huge part of the problem. The dev's real interest is in only one of those paths, but because he feels like he has to satisfy other preferences to broaden his audience, he gets bogged down doing things that he's a lot less interested in. I suspect that, if he'd chosen to go all in on a cuckolding kinetic novel, this would've been done ages ago.
Yep. After replaying both versions (again) last night I realized how strong overpowering the cuckold aspect is. Without a doubt, it is preferred by the author.

I originally started playing this back when the first version was in its infancy. At the time, I figured it would be a good game that shows a couple venturing into the waters with an exhibition and eventually leading to something like a threesome. That the husband would be involved in the decisions. I thought all of that despite the title which clearly suggests more of a sacrifice on the husband's part to allow her to do what she wants in order to be happy. Playing the game repeatedly down the various "paths" clearly shows the cuckold nature of the game. Hell, the ending of that last version ended in her going all-out porn star regardless of the decisions the player made.

This game seems to be similar to all the others about a couple expanding their horizons and they all end with a collapse of the paths to essentially a single path. The other games tend to not get finished or become a watered-down mess with no clear and satisfactory result.

I don't want that for this game and I certainly wish the developer all the strength it takes to finish this game as he sees it in his head. I have chosen to support the dev through Patreon because I think the work is above average and I am interested in its complete success. Time will tell!
 

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I continue to think that this is a huge part of the problem. The dev's real interest is in only one of those paths, but because he feels like he has to satisfy other preferences to broaden his audience, he gets bogged down doing things that he's a lot less interested in. I suspect that, if he'd chosen to go all in on a cuckolding kinetic novel, this would've been done ages ago.
Dev wanted more subscribers so they added extra routes now everyone will have to live with that decision or move on and find something else...isn't that right?
 
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Samuel Hidayat

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If it is similar to the previous version of the game, there was no hiding that it was an interracial cuckold game. But the current version seems to give the reader the impression that there would be options, sharing, cheating, cuckolding, and exhibition. So, again, I am making a huge assumption in thinking that this is just a straight-up NTR game.
Current version separates the NTR and non-NTR paths entirely. The key choice is whether Claire entertains the idea of letting the black guy help her training or not. If she accepts his help, then the entire playthrough will be hardcoded with NTR vibes.

If you don't like that, have Claire refuses his help. Then the path will be non-NTRish since it focuses on exploring the relationship by themselves. The guy MC even outright rejects the glasses girl's idea of getting his girl into camming.

Both path seems to allow the guy to cheat on Claire if you want to.
 

Nurikabe

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Dev wanted more subscribers so they added extra routes now everyone will have to live with that decision or move on and find something else...isn't that right?
I certainly prefer to have the options. If it were a straight-up interracial cuckold game there is no way I would support it or continue to read it.

If you don't like that, have Claire refuses his help. Then the path will be non-NTRish since it focuses on exploring the relationship by themselves. The guy MC even outright rejects the glasses girl's idea of getting his girl into camming.
The question in my head is the "NTRish" part. "Exploring the relationship by themselves," does that mean without inviting an outside person? In the original, Claire wanted to find a woman for the MC and clearly wanted to push the sister. Perhaps so she could feel better about looking for other men (that part was never fully developed). So, is the new version going to explore the exhibitionism aspect (camgirl, public nudity, and dares, etc.) if you chose the "non-NTRish" path (or maybe both paths)? Is Claire going to cheat if she goes down the NTR path? Will it be a threesome/sharing scene? Is the camgirl path entirely shut down if you choose for her to tell the gym rat the truth?

Perhaps we don't know the answers yet. It is always difficult to know what is going to happen when there is a previous version attached.

[BTW, I really hate referring to things using that acronym. It is such a misused term. And does not really address what the issue is for most people. I really enjoy some "NTR" shit. And then there are things that are way out of my comfort zone (like the previous version of Claire cheating with what's his name).]
 

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So, the above discussion is how games like this go off the rails and fail to get finished. The dev clearly wants a cuckold game, though the description of the original version suggests there could've been an IR version, a version with her female friend, and even Jenni cuckolding him. Obviously, all but one of those paths got dropped within a few releases. The only reason he's writing faithful (and, in the original, competing faithful) plotlines into either version is because players who don't want to be forced into that route simply won't play the game. Which is a perfectly fine thing to accept if you can pump out regular releases on a reliable schedule, but hell for everyone involved if the dev can't meet their deadlines. Especially the dev.

In my opinion, devs who listen and react to the shifting preferences of their audience have about a 5% (at best) chance of finishing their games, and about a .05% chance of finishing their games the way they wanted to. This dev has a very clear preference for how this story should go, and the previous version makes it completely obvious. It's trying to do the (for him) soul-destroying work of (f'rex) making Claire faithful that saps his interest, after which his inability to push through takes over. Hence the regular and long silences.
 

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The question in my head is the "NTRish" part. "Exploring the relationship by themselves," does that mean without inviting an outside person? In the original, Claire wanted to find a woman for the MC and clearly wanted to push the sister. Perhaps so she could feel better about looking for other men (that part was never fully developed). So, is the new version going to explore the exhibitionism aspect (camgirl, public nudity, and dares, etc.) if you chose the "non-NTRish" path (or maybe both paths)? Is Claire going to cheat if she goes down the NTR path? Will it be a threesome/sharing scene? Is the camgirl path entirely shut down if you choose for her to tell the gym rat the truth?

Perhaps we don't know the answers yet. It is always difficult to know what is going to happen when there is a previous version attached.
  • So far, camgirl and exposing herself to someone else in public is locked to NTR path. Exclusive exhibitionism (where she only exposes herself in public for you) seems to be the main kink for the non-NTRish path for now
  • There's definitely going to be an option for Claire to cheat in the NTR path
  • Threesome seems to also exist in the non-NTRish path. There's already a scene to turn Claire a cuckquean after all
Btw, I called it "non-NTRish" since the male MC can cheat regardless of path, so it can be NTR from Claire's POV.
 
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Oenomeaus

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every time i try to download the game my computer aborted the progress because a virus was found! is that normal?
 
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Hey Guyz , Just came across this game so can someone please tell me what are all the scenes that we have in both the Love and Lust routes till now, Is it just teasing or hardcore sex scene.
 

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I know the first question many will have is "When is the NEW planned release date? Well, If progress continues as it is now and I don't do anything silly like splitting into parts (I do not want to do that honestly as it's unfair for many supporters) then I suspect it could be another week or two



I apologize for taking so long, things haven't been easy on the real life side of things and I can barely pay my bills so I've been back and forth between the update daily and just trying to scrape up some cash to get by this month.


Just wanted to spend a minute letting you guys know that I am still finishing the chapter, and it is still being worked on every chance I get. To be transparent, the past couple days I've been doing what I can to make money on the side to get by while still putting time in, it's just been difficult to find balance while I crunch all that I can into so little time each day. I'm as motivated as ever to get this done, I just have real life bills to take care of as well. Can't make BILH if i'm on the streets lol. I won't let it come to that of course. Just know that I am working very hard in every aspect to both finish this chapter asap, as well as barely get by IRL.

" I am shooting for an early April release " His words the ..

This is just a joke. It reminds me of when I was patron of Eromersive (Demon boy) And I'm afraid the end result will be the same. It's still crazy this kind of person. Fortunately, not all developers are like that.
 

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I hope you guys are ready for 10 mins gameplay ( I am 1000% sure he is gonna shoot " Oh yeah guys I decided to split the update since some of the parts don't make a lot of sense to me so here is a 10 mins Update after 3 months and DW I got you, the rest will come eventually in 2024)
 
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Fusionzone

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I like the premise and its potential. The thought of the wife and her sister both willing to fuck other dudes to get him off cuck harem style is a new one, otherwise standard vanilla route sisters harem is just as good, one's an explorer and the other's a homebody, perfect combo. Big issue is the game needs like 2 years of work worth of content cuz almost nothing has happened in the content that is currently out. As for the people who are angry, don't pay for potential unless you're willing to be disappointed. It's like paying kickstarter games or for early access games. Ultimately unless people are making these full time and getting paid for their work they're doing it largely for fun, for coding experience, or as a passion project, they aren't going to be able to work on it feverishly while they got a life to live. 10k a year off of patreon assuming it's consistent isn't nothing, but it's not a living wage, nor is it enough to cut work hours in any meaningful way even if you know how to live like a spartan. If you know you're gonna be upset over expectations then keep your dollar until you see a release then pay for that month, then cancel the sub until the next update.

The first post being in 2018 sounds kinda nuts for such little story progress being made in 5 years. Idk if that's over an engine change or what but that's less than 1 chapter per year so it's safe to assume that not much is going to happen as time goes on, unless the author gets a sudden boost in time and desire to work on it. If he is in financial straights like he said then the best he can do is try to maintain as much of his patron dollars with a minimum amount of effort expended. Just how it goes.
 

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I like the premise and its potential. The thought of the wife and her sister both willing to fuck other dudes to get him off cuck harem style is a new one, otherwise standard vanilla route sisters harem is just as good, one's an explorer and the other's a homebody, perfect combo. Big issue is the game needs like 2 years of work worth of content cuz almost nothing has happened in the content that is currently out. As for the people who are angry, don't pay for potential unless you're willing to be disappointed. It's like paying kickstarter games or for early access games. Ultimately unless people are making these full time and getting paid for their work they're doing it largely for fun, for coding experience, or as a passion project, they aren't going to be able to work on it feverishly while they got a life to live. 10k a year off of patreon assuming it's consistent isn't nothing, but it's not a living wage, nor is it enough to cut work hours in any meaningful way even if you know how to live like a spartan. If you know you're gonna be upset over expectations then keep your dollar until you see a release then pay for that month, then cancel the sub until the next update.

The first post being in 2018 sounds kinda nuts for such little story progress being made in 5 years. Idk if that's over an engine change or what but that's less than 1 chapter per year so it's safe to assume that not much is going to happen as time goes on, unless the author gets a sudden boost in time and desire to work on it. If he is in financial straights like he said then the best he can do is try to maintain as much of his patron dollars with a minimum amount of effort expended. Just how it goes.
"Because I Love Her v1.0" is a different game. Actually what you are seeing is a new game or a restart of the game.

I personally don't know what the route with NTR is like (and I'll never know firsthand), but I'm liking the route without NTR.
 

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"Because I Love Her v1.0" is a different game. Actually what you are seeing is a new game or a restart of the game.

I personally don't know what the route with NTR is like (and I'll never know firsthand), but I'm liking the route without NTR.
I played through the "restart" I guess, I'm assuming the v1 download has more content or is just on an inferior engine? the difference between the two was very minimal. There's a bit of change in dialogue and 1 different scene where she flirts with another dude. The core of the story was exactly the same though the only real difference is the actions of claire look different while carrying the same intent, and zoey is the same she states she's willing to do whatever it takes to be with you, and the difference by ch3 is in 1 she's willing to try exhibition play in vanilla route and in ntr route she's willing to try to get into swinging for you, "if that's what it takes to get you to look at me" she words it basically the same in both routes. Honestly that's why I liked the premise of the game like I said. The women don't change they are there primarily as erotic pleasure dispensers, for lack of a better way to put it, but their method of doing so changes based off the route ie the readers preference. It's an appealing concept of love being an intention and an emotion first, and an action second. It means the person they are with she's going to change based on what will make him happy, and her behavior is going to reflect whatever that thing is for him. You could inject any tame or depraved fetish into the story and it would work just the same, and that's a good thing in my book it means the story is able to stand on its own legs, its a good trajectory to keep.
 
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