reidanota

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- Going the NTR route, the choices can "contain" it to NTS level and not go into NTR/cheating. Claire has a dominance stat that plays a part, too. Another big factor is your decision about Zoey. To avoid NTR, I recommend MC being Zoey's 1st...
Thanks! I guess avoiding Claire dominance is one mark on the compass. Managing love/lust points seems to matter, as well - but how exactly does it work? I haven't caught any path split that checks those stats, is it enough, for example, to keep love above lust? Or is it more about thresholds? I don't want to sound like I dislike Claire having agency and following her impulses, but for that to work for me, she and John should be really, really close, tell each other about any cheating if it happens, on the first opportunity, get horny and have great sex. What I want to avoid, as I said, is mostly three things: permanent affairs that suggest rivalry, prolonged cheating where they don't tell each other what they're doing, and them focusing so much on the "no holding back" motto that they stop being lovers together.

Does being Zoey's first imply picking her love route? The walkthrough mod makes a stark warning about that being the only way to enjoy her "true love content". These hints can be more confusing than explanatory, hence why I prefer a PDF walkthrough, and one where the different paths are clearly laid out at that, with the criteria or options to get into each.

Zoey does seem very insecure and prone to "falling", so maybe the author intended to make her arc require sheltering her somewhat, and grounding her, rather than pushing her? I noticed the "trigger" stats on Zoey. I read something - most likely in another game - about a character that "breaks" if you push her too much, this reminded me of that so I avoided it. So many questions, sorry about that!
 
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What I want to avoid, as I said, is mostly three things: permanent affairs that suggest rivalry, prolonged cheating where they don't tell each other what they're doing, and them focusing so much on the "no holding back" motto that they stop being lovers together.
For now at least, you don't have to worry about that on any of the NTR routes, yet. That of course could change in future updates.

Does being Zoey's first imply picking her love route?
No. You need to pick the NTR route when talking with Zoey in the kitchen.
If you pick certain choices after that during the event, Zoey will pull the MC aside and have a talk...

As far as the love, lust, dominance stats are concerned, so far, they seem to only trigger access to certain scenes & choices. There aren't hard consequences, yet.
The tone of the conversations change a bit depending on the stats.
It's been a minute, but there are at least 6 different variations to how that first "sharing event" can turn out...
And no matter what happens...they all have a soft "reset" going into the current update.
Basically, the event is a one time thing, so far, and Claire and the MC talk about any "cheating" that occurred, which is easily avoided by choosing to have sex with Zoey first after she talks to the MC as mentioned above.
And most notable for your concern, there is no "affair" going on, yet, between Claire and another dude.

In the update part, Claire is very adamant about still being all about the MC on all NTR/S routes. There's just one in particular, where she pushes the NTR a bit. But, she makes it clear she's doing to push the MC, because she thinks he'll like it. And to be fair, if you've made the choices to get that, she ain't wrong... :LOL:
 

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In the update part, Claire is very adamant about still being all about the MC on all NTR/S routes. There's just one in particular, where she pushes the NTR a bit. But, she makes it clear she's doing to push the MC, because she thinks he'll like it. And to be fair, if you've made the choices to get that, she ain't wrong... :LOL:
I've been trying to push it as far as I'd go, did NOT pick "true_NTR". All I wanted since the beginning of the game was to see Claire and John having sex. Didn't disappoint! Hope I'm not missing out too much, but that's exactly the tone I like, they push each other but end up never lacking the drive or the stamina to do it together.

Edit: finished the update, colour me impressed. The ending after the sexting was just right. Only choice I'm not entirely comfortable with throughout is the one that leads to the scene with Arora. John never mentions it to Claire and for that reason it feels a bit off character. I'm guessing it a loose end for now?
 
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Only choice I'm not entirely comfortable with throughout is the one that leads to the scene with Arora.
You can make different choices and the Arora scene will not trigger.

Did you happen to try having MC do the scene with Gwen, and have Claire close the laptop?
Claire will wear a black top to the club.
It's the "true NTR" scene, might be a bit much, but worth a look.
 

reidanota

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Did you happen to try having MC do the scene with Gwen, and have Claire close the laptop?
Claire will wear a black top to the club.
It's the "true NTR" scene, might be a bit much, but worth a look.
Didn't! Already deleted this update and left my review, but I'll be sure to check it out next update. Wouldn't have minded that scene in the bathroom went a little further, but during the laptop part, I wanted Claire to enjoy it.
 
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reidanota

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gotohome I feel strongly about true NTR as well, although I like nuance. In other words, if the couple's relationship is strong and can withstand the weather, I don't mind to see an episode where one or the other slips and makes a mistake - people are flawed and showing it makes for believable characters. But the game has to present a believable scenario where they fix it, and maybe grow closer together in the process. I'll always strictly avoid games where such a mistake leads to prolonged, or even permanent betrayal. Wouldn't go as far as to accuse someone else of being mental, but I think "classic NTR" takes some masochism (by enjoying the pain/humiliation from the MC's perspective) or sadism (by enjoying the bully/cruel wife's perspective). Not my cup of tea and also why I also don't particularly enjoy Netori - I hate bullying in all its forms.

To keep things on topic, I do like how the author is implementing this story, feels like the player has agency to finely shape it to their tastes. It certainly worked for me!
 

sac812

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is the male domination ntr only or is it available for non-ntr chads too?
For now, at least, it's only one scene on the NTR path and it's kinda meh, IMO. Very short, may or may not be relevant as the story progresses, and at the end of it, she flips the script on him.

On the other hand, it *is* avoidable.
 

Claudio83

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I want to trigger the double bj at the club (cell sexting, NTS path), but the game tells me that Claire don't have enough bravery... how to increase it and obtain the scene?
 
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Suntar

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This game man:FacePalm:

MC cheats without second thought with his boss because wifey saod he shouldn't hold back, never tells her about it. But when he has permission to fuck a girl, on camera, he decides its cheating and stops once the camera dies.

Once again an NTR game with fake dominance points for MC. If you play NTS route, he's an incompetent bumbling fool no matter what.
 

winterwolf200

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The models on the banner look pretty similar. And have matching eye color. Does it turn out they are related? Is there a relationship chart? Does the Mc go through the whole family tree?
 
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