VN Ren'Py Because I Love Her [Part 2 NTR Update Zoey] [The Typist]

[onithegamer1]

Hi everyone, relatively new here... I played the latest update and I love the game, did both playthrough and did both swinging scenes Zoey/Paul and Claire/Paul... my question: those 2 scenes did not open in the replay gallery, is this right? and if it is, why? It is nice to have all unlocked scenes from the playthrough be in the gallery... or am I getting something wrong?

The gallery is a mess and hopefully will be fixed eventually. The new scenes all seem to appear in Claire's gallery. I believe it's also missing one of the new scenes with Claire when she comes home after getting the go ahead to have fun in the stall with 1 or 2 guys. I'm playing the steam release so maybe it's different than what's posted here.

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

you just make me laugh, the NTRs are judged based on the story and the way the MCs are described, 99% of these VNs tell of MCs so stupid and idiotic that it's natural then the heated criticism of the product, I understand that a porn game has various plots, love, sharing and betrayal, but usually in betrayal, the DEVs create a totally useless and sick MC, which is normal then to hate the genre, there are triple A NTRs because they have badass MCs, who react to betrayal, when it is foreseen, ending with the cheater, those are VNs with Elite NTRs, and no one has ever judged them bad, but in a game like this, where, FMC goes to fuck with the BBC behind MC's back, then we notice that MC finds out and doesn't say anything, actually, worse, well, then, yes, this deserves a bad grade, on that path, because you created a doormat MC, I repeat, on the path of sharing, or of partner exchange, everything is fine, actually, the love one, them I'd avoid adding porn games, but having MC as a doormat in cheating deserves a bad review. Cheating is a nice part of the game, it's intriguing until MC finds out, but then it has to end in tragedy, not humiliation for MC, those are even worse.

You’ve just proven my point lol.

 

[LoveWhores]

It must be fun to make up random statistics. I think 99% of people don't like NTR. The 1% that do are just closeted and can't admit that they are attracted to dick instead of pussy.

I only played this game because the remake had a non-ntr route from the very beginning. I ignored the original NTR focused one. If someone hates NTR they won't even look at this game.

Then you are really delusional or may be you just don't want to accept the reality as a lot of other people who has that problem

 

[LoveWhores]

That’s an interesting take lol, but I disagree.

Besides, I think you’re getting too hung up on defining the difference between a "hater" and a "disappointed fan." That distinction doesn’t really change my point: in niche genres, a lot of low ratings come from unmet expectations rather than actual quality issues. My point is that regardless of what we call them, these ratings often reflect personal preferences and disappointment rather than technical flaws. Even if a reviewer isn’t trolling, giving a 1-star review just because the game doesn’t match their exact fantasy still distorts how its quality is perceived. That’s what I’m highlighting.

Ironically, what you said actually supports this. You said the issue is that the game has "mostly sharing options", while some players wanted "cheating" options instead. But that’s not a critique of the writing, art, or technical execution, it’s about the content not aligning with a very specific fantasy. That directly proves my point: the low scores are rooted in personal bias, not the game being poorly made.

Either you are not even understanding anything of what i say it or may be you are just trying to use on purpose my explanation about two different topics for you to defend your point about something completelly different which only makes you look pathetic since i never did mention anything about raiting. Look carefully - in my 1st comment i try to explain to you that you are wrong about the fact that people don't like NTR - i did show you in that comment that most people actually like NTR but some like different types of NTR the same way some like hetero,bisexual,lesbians or even gays and that even in this type of people there a lot that like NTR and that most comments complaining about NTR are because of that,because if we ignore the haters,there are a lot of people that like different types of NTR but most do like NTR - I never say it anything about raitings.

In my second comment i did explain to you that there's a huge difference between a "dissapointed fan" and a "hater" since you say that the line is very tinny - once again a whole different topic that didn't has anything with "raitings" and i never say it anything about raitings,i only explain to you that you are wrong about two different topics.

Now if you want a explanation about raitings i can give you such a explanation too but that has nothing with the other two topics where i show you that you are wrong about.
Tell me did you see how many people did vote about the raiting of the game? Only 112? Do you know how many people are playing the game? Probabaly at least few thousands. Now tell me did you know or did you even ask yourself why only so little did vote about the game? I will tell you - because the game is not finished. There's no point giving raiting to a game that is still in process and it's not finished. The game should be rated only after is completelly finished,when you were able to experience and see everything in the game - only then you can give a proper raiting about a game. Here's a little example: Let's say you did vote for a game that it's still in process - you vote with a low raiting because you didn't happen to like it so far but later it happens that you start like it and at the end when the game is finally finished it happen you actually love the game. So yeah untill the game is not finished and you didn't was able to experience everything there's no point of raiting the game - you can simply express your opinion with the updates and everything in the comments that's why the comment section is. Most of the people that are raiting a game that is not finished with low raitings are actually the so-called haters. Now i hope you understand everything this time and i hope you are not gonna mix the explanations i give about a three different topics again. The first explanaition it's for itself, the second one about the second topic is once again about itself and has nothing to do with the other two topics just like the last explanaition about the raitings it's for itself too and has nothing to do with the other two.

 

[gtwmxy]

现在是时候进行哲学讨论了吗？

 

[LoveWhores]

you just make me laugh, the NTRs are judged based on the story and the way the MCs are described, 99% of these VNs tell of MCs so stupid and idiotic that it's natural then the heated criticism of the product, I understand that a porn game has various plots, love, sharing and betrayal, but usually in betrayal, the DEVs create a totally useless and sick MC, which is normal then to hate the genre, there are triple A NTRs because they have badass MCs, who react to betrayal, when it is foreseen, ending with the cheater, those are VNs with Elite NTRs, and no one has ever judged them bad, but in a game like this, where, FMC goes to fuck with the BBC behind MC's back, then we notice that MC finds out and doesn't say anything, actually, worse, well, then, yes, this deserves a bad grade, on that path, because you created a doormat MC, I repeat, on the path of sharing, or of partner exchange, everything is fine, actually, the love one, them I'd avoid adding porn games, but having MC as a doormat in cheating deserves a bad review. Cheating is a nice part of the game, it's intriguing until MC finds out, but then it has to end in tragedy, not humiliation for MC, those are even worse.

You know that you just showed that you are a hypocrite,right? Just because you don't like cheating it doesn't mean others don't like it - everyone has a different tastes and some people like me actually enjoy cheating a lot. If you don't like that there is a cheating in a game,you can just avoid it by playing a sharing or love route,the one you preffer or just leave and go find another game that is to your taste but that doesn't give you the right to judge the game for having "cheating" route - doing something like that not only shows you don't have respect for other peoples tastes and the fact they may like different stuff from you but it also makes you a hater too because only haters and hypocrites are acting that way - and yes,it means you are a stupid hypocrative hater.

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

Either you are not even understanding anything of what i say it or may be you are just trying to use on purpose my explanation about two different topics for you to defend your point about something completelly different which only makes you look pathetic since i never did mention anything about raiting. Look carefully - in my 1st comment i try to explain to you that you are wrong about the fact that people don't like NTR - i did show you in that comment that most people actually like NTR but some like different types of NTR the same way some like hetero,bisexual,lesbians or even gays and that even in this type of people there a lot that like NTR and that most comments complaining about NTR are because of that,because if we ignore the haters,there are a lot of people that like different types of NTR but most do like NTR - I never say it anything about raitings.

In my second comment i did explain to you that there's a huge difference between a "dissapointed fan" and a "hater" since you say that the line is very tinny - once again a whole different topic that didn't has anything with "raitings" and i never say it anything about raitings,i only explain to you that you are wrong about two different topics.

Now if you want a explanation about raitings i can give you such a explanation too but that has nothing with the other two topics where i show you that you are wrong about.
Tell me did you see how many people did vote about the raiting of the game? Only 112? Do you know how many people are playing the game? Probabaly at least few thousands. Now tell me did you know or did you even ask yourself why only so little did vote about the game? I will tell you - because the game is not finished. There's no point giving raiting to a game that is still in process and it's not finished. The game should be rated only after is completelly finished,when you were able to experience and see everything in the game - only then you can give a proper raiting about a game. Here's a little example: Let's say you did vote for a game that it's still in process - you vote with a low raiting because you didn't happen to like it so far but later it happens that you start like it and at the end when the game is finally finished it happen you actually love the game. So yeah untill the game is not finished and you didn't was able to experience everything there's no point of raiting the game - you can simply express your opinion with the updates and everything in the comments that's why the comment section is. Most of the people that are raiting a game that is not finished with low raitings are actually the so-called haters. Now i hope you understand everything this time and i hope you are not gonna mix the explanations i give about a three different topics again. The first explanaition it's for itself, the second one about the second topic is once again about itself and has nothing to do with the other two topics just like the last explanaition about the raitings it's for itself too and has nothing to do with the other two.

Okay, to avoid frustrating you again (gomen, gomen ), I know it might feel like we’re mixing up different topics. So, I’ll break my response down into three points:


1) You claim that most people actually like NTR (Netorare, a genre in adult content) and acknowledge that some people dislike it, but many do enjoy it, with preferences varying like heterosexual, bisexual, lesbian, or gay content.

Is that really how you see it? I somewhat disagree, primarily because stats from porn sites show that NTR/sharing/cheating/cuckold content makes up only a small portion of what people actually consume. Most users still go for straightforward sexual content. But hey, if that’s your perception, that’s your view, more power to you.


2) You claim there’s a big difference between someone who is disappointed with a game and someone who hates it.

In principle, that’s true. I’m not arguing that they’re different in principle. Disappointed fans and haters have different motivations, but in the context of reviews, both often give low scores without considering the game’s technical or artistic quality. The outcome is the same: the game’s overall rating is lowered by personal bias rather than genuine flaws. That’s the MAIN POINT I’ve been making in ALL of my previous replies . Whether a reviewer is trolling or simply disappointed that the game didn’t match their exact fantasy, their impact on the rating is the same. NOWHERE in my previous replies did I say they are different in principle.


3) You argue that ratings on an unfinished game don’t reflect its true quality and that we should rely on comments instead.

Well, I strongly disagree with this one. Ratings are a valuable tool for developers and players alike. They provide a snapshot of how the current version of the game is being received, including the quality of its features, mechanics, and content. While comments can provide context or explain specific likes and dislikes, they are subjective, too many and often overlooked by the devs and the casual players. Ratings, on the other hand, aggregate the opinions of many users, offering an overall view of the game’s current state. Waiting until a game is finished to consider ratings ignores this valuable feedback loop that helps guide game development.

 

[aqd]

This game has been around a loonngg time, and for a while the ntr debates had died down. No need to get into it again.

The low ratings are most likely from the really awful spate of overpromising and underdelivering on releases that went on for years. The game has always been great quality in each of its iterations (compared to other games available at the same time). And the latest version is great quality as well. But if you look back through this thread you'll find whole pages of posts in the vein of "He said he'd release Tuesday, must mean a Tuesday in 2032..."

This wasn't without merit.

The dev would say "I'm definitely releasing in a month."
Several months pass.
"I'm definitely releasing in two weeks."
Several months pass.
"I'm definitely releasing Tuesday."
15 more Tuesdays pass...

And finally a release would come out. Sometimes those would be like a single scene.

Now, more recently they *seem* to be doing better. I don't want to jinx it though. I appreciate what they make, and just keeping a game alive and being committed to it is great. I think being realistic about schedule early on would have brought that review average up. Announcing the update will be a year out, then updating in 6 months, will lead to less angst than announcing it'll be out in a month and then taking 6.

 

[LoveWhores]

Okay, to avoid frustrating you again (gomen, gomen ), I know it might feel like we’re mixing up different topics. So, I’ll break my response down into three points:


1) You claim that most people actually like NTR (Netorare, a genre in adult content) and acknowledge that some people dislike it, but many do enjoy it, with preferences varying like heterosexual, bisexual, lesbian, or gay content.

Is that really how you see it? I somewhat disagree, primarily because stats from porn sites show that NTR/sharing/cheating/cuckold content makes up only a small portion of what people actually consume. Most users still go for straightforward sexual content. But hey, if that’s your perception, that’s your view, more power to you.


2) You claim there’s a big difference between someone who is disappointed with a game and someone who hates it.

In principle, that’s true. I’m not arguing that they’re different in principle. Disappointed fans and haters have different motivations, but in the context of reviews, both often give low scores without considering the game’s technical or artistic quality. The outcome is the same: the game’s overall rating is lowered by personal bias rather than genuine flaws. That’s the MAIN POINT I’ve been making in ALL of my previous replies . Whether a reviewer is trolling or simply disappointed that the game didn’t match their exact fantasy, their impact on the rating is the same. NOWHERE in my previous replies did I say they are different in principle.


3) You argue that ratings on an unfinished game don’t reflect its true quality and that we should rely on comments instead.

Well, I strongly disagree with this one. Ratings are a valuable tool for developers and players alike. They provide a snapshot of how the current version of the game is being received, including the quality of its features, mechanics, and content. While comments can provide context or explain specific likes and dislikes, they are subjective, too many and often overlooked by the devs and the casual players. Ratings, on the other hand, aggregate the opinions of many users, offering an overall view of the game’s current state. Waiting until a game is finished to consider ratings ignores this valuable feedback loop that helps guide game development.

1. - I don't know if you know that but there are plenty of porn websites and in a lot of them people watch NTR porn a lot,some websites are even focused specifically on NTR porn. Not to mention the most famous porn actresses have all kind of porn movies and a lot of them are NTR and interracial,some even combined both of this things. Also,i don't know if you know it but "straightforward" includes cheating too and cheating is NTR(netorare but in porn they call it cheating). Don't know if i need to show you how many NTR porn movies are popular but i'm sure you may hear some of this types like "hotwife";"swinging";cuckolding";"my neighboor's wife or daughter";"my hot neighboor"; "my boss" ; "seduced by the boss"; big tit office chicks" "office milfs"; "dirty masseur"; "the unfaitful wife" :"hot cheating wives"... and so on and so on...there are a lot,you just need to search for it. Just because you didn't see them and search for them it doesn't mean there are not plenty of it and that there are not a lot of people enjoying watching them. Brazzers,Naughty America,BangBros,Blacked are probably the most famous porn studios that have plenty of NTR movies but there are a lot other porn studios too - once again you just need to search to find it.

2. - If you are fan of something no matter if it happens that at some point you get dissapointed from something that it's not really to your taste,you will not take it personal and you will still give a honest rating - otherwise it simply makes you a hypocrite or even a hater and no longer a fan. Yes,fan can turn into haters but if you are not a hater and you are just a fan of something then you will give a honest rating and a honest comment about what you are rating.

3. - Ratings are valuable for developers/creators but they are suppose to be made after you already did experience everything otherwise this ratings are not honest and can mislead the developers/creators if people really did like what they did or not and can also mislead the other people who are trying to decide either to try it or not. Tell me - do you rate a movie before you first watched it? If you do that then it makes you a hypocrite because you didn't watch the movie but you did rate it making unhonest rating about something you didn't even experience. Playing a game is the same - let's take the PS games for example: you go to the shop buy some game,then you come home and rate it before you played it or you did installed it and did play only a small amount instead playing it all before rating it - once again you are making an unhonest rating and are misleading the developers/creators and everyone else. That is the problem with a lot of the people this days,especially the teenagers that are rating movies in IMDB without even watching it and only based on what they hear from a friend or someone else,or eventually because some of their favorite actors/actresses are in the movie and they vote before even watching it. To make a honest rating you need to experience everything - here is the same,you play the game and then comment here,telling what you think of it so far before the next update comes,then comment again and once the game is finnally finished you can give a honest rating about it. And the good developers i can assure you are checking the comments and answers them when they have time,especially if you make a comment in the platform they present the game and where you can subscribe to them but even here i know games in which the developers answers to comments when they can. Like i say it before,that's why the comment section is.

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

The low ratings are most likely from the really awful spate of overpromising and underdelivering on releases that went on for years. The game has always been great quality in each of its iterations (compared to other games available at the same time). And the latest version is great quality as well. But if you look back through this thread you'll find whole pages of posts in the vein of "He said he'd release Tuesday, must mean a Tuesday in 2032..."

I see, that makes sense. People seem more emotionally affected by the delays than by the actual quality of the game. It’s sad, but I can understand why that’s the case.

 

[asus579160]

Hi, Any chance to have this game (for PC at least) in a single download ? It's not that big, I think it could be possible

P.S. For the statistic of the neverending war about NTR (if samebody is counting): I don't love NTR but I really like the work of the Developer therefore I play the game.

It's not always "NTR": YES/NO

Regards !

 

[asus579160]

Your way of responding by offending others is simply childish. I gave valid reasons as to why some NTRs are hated and other NTRs are loved. It all depends on how the MC is described. Therefore, I find your offensive response ridiculous and useless. Haters, I need to explain the variations in the reviews. Hahahahaha. Another mistake of yours. Haters comment on the creator with insults about the genre. I only explained the two voting systems. Perhaps you felt offended because in real life you represent a loser MC like many VNs. It's not my fault if you're a weak cuckold.

You didn't understand any of the meaning of my review. I said that a player who has character in life and plays these low-quality NTR VNs will always give a bad rating. I didn't say that I like cheating, I said that if MC discovers the betrayal, he must prove himself a man. That the porn game is shaped by the cuckold's path is right. I don't find it right that on that path, MC is described as a weak and humiliated person. These are two different explanations, my friend. Fans of this genre with a weak MC are men who in real life are like MC. They like to be humiliated and weak, as well as cuckolded. But if an alpha male like me or others plays the game, the cuckold's path involves a weak MC, then my character explodes. On the contrary, if, as happens with other NTRs, MC discovers the betrayal and reacts, then I and other Alpha men give it a good review because it's the vision we give to the game and the character. We can never avoid it in advance if the wife cheats, both in reality and in games, but it's like us. We react, which sets us apart afterwards. I repeat, the Alpha player faced with such weak MCs will always give a bad review. My freedom lies in this, in defending how I see certain situations described. Yes, it's a game, but if there are irritating and offensive things in the porn game, true, the poor cuckold, guys like me, feel offended like men. I repeat, betrayal is inevitable, but it's how you react afterwards that sets you apart.

I see no wrong in Dorian words...+1

 

[vandal.h]

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P.S. For the statistic of the neverending war about NTR (if samebody is counting): I don't love NTR but I really like the work of the Developer therefore I play the game.

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There's no NTR war here, only a person who imposes his opinions on everyone else while demanding that they respect his. This game is NTR from the very beginning so everyone knew what they were getting into. People are allowed to like or hate whatever they want. But if you're going to add a non NTR route in your game, don't make your MC a pathetic pre-mature ejaculator who can't satisfy his women. Those kinds of MCs are only for the NTR loving folks.

 

[asus579160]

There's no NTR war here, only a person who imposes his opinions on everyone else while demanding that they respect his. This game is NTR from the very beginning so everyone knew what they were getting into. People are allowed to like or hate whatever they want. But if you're going to add a non NTR route in your game, don't make your MC a pathetic pre-mature ejaculator who can't satisfy his women. Those kinds of MCs are only for the NTR loving folks.

Fair. But can we still give credits to the Dev for the renders, the characters design and the writing of the Dev ? I think we should. Technically it's a very fine game.

 

[lethalentropy]

Before I download this can anyone tell what kind of NTR is in this game? I don't like wife sharing, as in knowing my character is aware and openly sharing her. I prefer the type where I am off doing my bullshit and cheating as well and not attending to her and so she slowly gets corrupted by someone else without me knowing.

 

[LoveWhores]

Before I download this can anyone tell what kind of NTR is in this game? I don't like wife sharing, as in knowing my character is aware and openly sharing her. I prefer the type where I am off doing my bullshit and cheating as well and not attending to her and so she slowly gets corrupted by someone else without me knowing.

Well,you control both main characters(boyfriend and girlfriend) but at least for the moment it looks like is more of a Netorase(cuckoldry/cucking or also called it sharing) as the girlfriend is the one putting the idea to you about experimenting with her sister or even with other people or couples(yes there is also the swinging type of sharing) and at least for the moment there isn't a lot of Netorare(cuckolding or also called it cheating) but we will need to wait and see if the developer will put more cheating options in future updates.

 

[lethalentropy]

Well,you control both main characters(boyfriend and girlfriend) but at least for the moment it looks like is more of a Netorase(cuckoldry/cucking or also called it sharing) as the girlfriend is the one putting the idea to you about experimenting with her sister or even with other people or couples(yes there is also the swinging type of sharing) and at least for the moment there isn't a lot of Netorare(cuckolding or also called it cheating) but we will need to wait and see if the developer will put more cheating options in future updates.

Thx for the reply, looks like i'll be passing on this one and no hate to the dev I'm sure its still a good game but just openly sharing takes the excitement away for me personally.

 

[Newbe163]

Thx for the reply, looks like i'll be passing on this one and no hate to the dev I'm sure its still a good game but just openly sharing takes the excitement away for me personally.

As you say, it is a good novel. And me, I do like the sharing part a lot. Cheating is always the standard, to get into a true sharing is much more difficult - in a novel and in reality

 

[Jstforme]

This game has been around a loonngg time, and for a while the ntr debates had died down. No need to get into it again.

The low ratings are most likely from the really awful spate of overpromising and underdelivering on releases that went on for years. The game has always been great quality in each of its iterations (compared to other games available at the same time). And the latest version is great quality as well. But if you look back through this thread you'll find whole pages of posts in the vein of "He said he'd release Tuesday, must mean a Tuesday in 2032..."

This wasn't without merit.

The dev would say "I'm definitely releasing in a month."
Several months pass.
"I'm definitely releasing in two weeks."
Several months pass.
"I'm definitely releasing Tuesday."
15 more Tuesdays pass...

And finally a release would come out. Sometimes those would be like a single scene.

Now, more recently they *seem* to be doing better. I don't want to jinx it though. I appreciate what they make, and just keeping a game alive and being committed to it is great. I think being realistic about schedule early on would have brought that review average up. Announcing the update will be a year out, then updating in 6 months, will lead to less angst than announcing it'll be out in a month and then taking 6.

This, and what was left out was he was much further along in the story than where the game is now, and decided to re-master the graphics and change the story. The updates were ok the first time around, and now well...you already know.

 

[Newbe163]

This, and what was left out was he was much further along in the story than where the game is now, and decided to re-master the graphics and change the story. The updates were ok the first time around, and now well...you already know.

Got it. Tks for sharing. Was not going back into history, but this is important news. Sad, I really liked the story, especially the last sequence with the female MC or alternatively Zoey with the male MC and the neighbors is really awesome. But yes, you need to keep promises, without even the best quality will not convince members to pay for the novel.