VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Malicre]

I don't even find Maya's story to be that bad on a personal level. She has no money, oh no like 90% of college kids. And her entitlement is insane, 30 seconds after joining the HOTs she demands for her tuition to be paid, even though in the pool scene with Quinn it was pretty much bashed over her head that she'll have to sell herself for the money.

There is no way she truly expects the HOTs to just randomly give out hundreds of thousands every year to new sisters, she can't be that stupid.

And Jill being easily manipulated by Tybalt in this episode really makes our female companions start to look quite dumb.

The problem i have with Maya is that she had so much character growth before Josei showed up, now shes back to being meek and submissive again. I loved pre Josei Maya, she was one of my favorite characters in the game until Josei showed up, now i couldn't care less about her.

 

[Esp``]

Actually you don't really miss anything, that's why I said it's wasted potential. Just pictures.
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Josy's tight pant way yammy, but wasted potential
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Yes, if I had been in M&J relationship and see this without anything else happening, I would be mad. Wasted potential indeed.

Having to choose between Jill and Sage was a dick move by dpc and shows he clearly hasn't learned from his AL crap. Having to choose who to hang out with to celebrate your birthday would have been much better as a branching point than forcing the Mc to leaving sick and devastated sage which he already committed to visit just to get a date with jill. Worse if you choose sage then the reward for the MC is blackmail win since jill stupidly interpret that as a sign so doesn't say anything to MC. Guess DPC had one of his brainfart moment when doing this scene.

IRL anyone on Jill's place should understand the MC's situation and suggest to do it another day. But in this case... Yeah...

It is no brainer option for me Sage is a must choice, even with we read Jill's mind that she will tell something important. It does still no make sense to abandon someone who is just broken up, sick and mad like hell, and we already made plans with her. Throwing all of this into trash and going with Jill is the definition of a shit move.

I think people defending the choice between Sage and Jill are missing the bigger picture. The game has set up a morality system, Chick vs. Dick. To pursue Jill, you need to do Chick things, aka "good guy" stuff. Sage tends to go more for the Dik or "bad boy" stuff.

The problem isn't making us choose, it's making the choice incongruent with the morality system. Promising to take care of a sick friend and ditching them to go on a date should be a "dick move", but because the date is with Jill this is considered the "good guy" choice. Likewise, telling someone you can't go on a spontaneous outing because a sick friend needs you should be perfectly reasonable, but since this is Sage over Jill, it is considered the "bad boy" path.

Now if the roles were reversed, if we promised to tend to a sick Jill and then had a choice to ditch her and spend time with Sage instead, that would fit with what the game has established. The problem isn't being made to choose -- we're going to have to narrow it down to one (maybe two?) LI's eventually -- it's that this particular choice was poorly constructed and runs counter to the game's own purported moral standards.

Yeah this multiple layers of variables and stats are getting weirder. I agree with you said, if it was like that it would at least make little sense as a big DIK badboy, or a chick boy. This way it leaves bad aftertaste in my mouth.

MC should've just told about Sage's brokeup and sickness and how he made plans with her to console her. The Jill I know from previous episodes would be totally understanding and even offer to help and re-organize plans for later.

I knew Sage and Jill are opposite sides on the affinity/status system and they would eventually be pitted of against each other, but I never expected a dumb choice like this.

Sage already is my favorite girl and I dislike both the way Jill handles blackmail stuff and how DPC forced a dumb choice which does not fits her character, so I went with Sage and I will everytime.

It's wild that Bella chose to sleep with the MC knowing there might be a mole at the DIK's.

It's insane how DPC thought this would be fine and I expected many more people to talk about it. I know Bella is a very popular LI so he wanted to put a scene of her somewhere, and the scene was very nice, but holy shit this is the dumbest thing a teacher can do just one day after a big scandal about another teacher. Do it like mastermind Jade if you must, not like this lol.

He does message Sage, just after you choose Jill he says, "Yeah, but I need to write a text before we leave.". Then your chat history shows, "Sorry, Sage. I can't make it right now. Something came up. Is it cool if I drop by later?" and if you're serious with Sage she messages back, "Ok... No, don't drop by. I changed my mind.", otherwise, if you're just friends she messages, "It's fine. I'll manage." Unfortunately you can't see any of these messages yet. You'll see them next episode when you get a chance to look at your phone (I don't think there's any opportunity to look at your phone messages from this point onward in e6).

I tried to find this but couldn't, but if it is true then damn, no way I'm choosing Jill now. Sage's reply is all you need to understand how fucked up choice it would be to abandon her and go to picnic with the do-gooder when Sage is in serious need/pain.

 

[Lembee]

Boys we need to talk about this, bella is by far the best thing in this game.
do i have to wait another half year to see a digital dick penetrating her ??

 

[shazba]

Heather is bitch though. She has pretty bad attitude and treats our boy like he is dogshit while he is a maggot. She is not the type you would want as a serious girlfriend unless you like to get headaches.

I can't think of any personality traits she has that are endearing. I guess not being a slut like the rest of the HOTs is a good thing.

 

[shazba]

MC should've just told about Sage's brokeup and sickness and how he made plans with her to console her. The Jill I know from previous episodes would be totally understanding and even offer to help and re-organize plans for later.

That's pretty much exactly how it played out anyway (except for the rain check), but Jill was a little down because she had the whole Tybalt thing hanging over her head.

 

[brichouse]

I don't even find Maya's story to be that bad on a personal level. She has no money, oh no like 90% of college kids. And her entitlement is insane, 30 seconds after joining the HOTs she demands for her tuition to be paid, even though in the pool scene with Quinn it was pretty much bashed over her head that she'll have to sell herself for the money.

There is no way she truly expects the HOTs to just randomly give out hundreds of thousands every year to new sisters, she can't be that stupid.

And Jill being easily manipulated by Tybalt in this episode really makes our female companions start to look quite dumb.

Shit, if Maya thinks her student debt is bad, she'd hate to see mine post-law school lmaoooooo (but actually crying lol). And yeah, Maya was just being willfully ignorant about what it would take to earn that full tuition, especially since she pursues the situation the same way regardless of whether or not MC warns her that Quinn is shady. I feel like the fact that not everyone in HOT had full tuition covered should've been a major sign that something... more... was required, and she should've been asking questions and demanding answers since she claims the only reason she even wanted to be a HOT was for the tuition.

The Jill/Tybalt thing is definitely baffling because Jill truly has the power of the pussy on her side in her 'relationship' with Tybalt since he's fucking obsessed with her. All she has to do is threaten to never speak to him again and he'll get right back in line. Nothing worse than a woman having the power of the pussy but not realizing it

 

[godkingxerxes]

Boys we need to talk about this, bella is by far the best thing in this game.
do i have to wait another half year to see a digital dick penetrating her ??

Another year.

Bella chapter 7 gonna be drama/story filled with no sex scene.

 

[brichouse]

It's insane how DPC thought this would be fine and I expected many more people to talk about it. I know Bella is a very popular LI so he wanted to put a scene of her somewhere, and the scene was very nice, but holy shit this is the dumbest thing a teacher can do just one day after a big scandal about another teacher. Do it like mastermind Jade if you must, not like this lol.

Shit, she could've at least tried climbing out of his window since it was busted anyway. Quinn got in and out of that house with NO eyes on her. I think she might've even showered. Meanwhile, Bella walked in and out of the front door like a dummy lmaooooo

 

[R1viel]

i have stupid theory. i think troy is melanie's brother, and mel is not chad sidechick. mel called chad about mc and sage bcs she knew that chad is gay with her brother

Would also explain why chad assumed it was the MC blackmailing him given that he knew the MC was Troy's dormmate

 

[Malicre]

Nothing worse than a woman having the power of the pussy but not realizing it

Actually what's worse is realizing that there are guys out there who put the power of the pussy on the pedestal in the first place. That's why so many millennial and gen z males are beta guys who can't get a date to save their life.

 

[brichouse]

But what if like, in some cases in this VN, the MC admited seeing other girls (although you aren't in a relationship yet) and is going to see a girl, even if it's to help her while being sick?

So he already informed me that he's dating multiple women at once and I continued being with him after that... aka I knew exactly what I signed up for? ... sounds to me like I can't be mad. Jealousy? Maybe. That's natural, but it's also a me thing, not a him thing. It'd be different if he wasn't be open/honest about shit though.

 

[shazba]

Nothing worse than a woman having the power of the pussy but not realizing it

Nothing worse except perhaps a woman realizing she has the power. You may be on a different side of the fence for this debate.

 

[Ghost'Xo]

Oh, I just remember something I forgot to bring up, did anyone else notice the persons shadow walking outside MC window after he put the tarp up and was going to bed? I'm curious who was sneaking around

 

[brichouse]

True, but remember that Jill and MC are not a "thing" yet. At that stage of a pre-relationship, there has not been any trust that's been built up yet. If they were already officially an item, I would agree with you.

But I feel they are still at a stage where every little thing you do get's amplified 1000 times. And that is from both ends the MC and Jill. You are not sure if they really like you, so you try to read everything from anything. Body language, small rejections, big rejections, postings on social media.

She's taking a big step in a "potential" relationship. At best a rejection would be a big let down. At worst, self doubt and hurt would become very real for Jill.

Maybe (although I'd argue it's exactly because they're not a thing and have never even discussed exclusivity that she can't be mad), HOWEVER your thought process completely disregards the fact that Jill went into that date with every intention of cutting MC off at the end of it so she had no intentions of building on things and establishing a relationship.

Jill planned on that date being like a last hurrah, it's only because MC's unwilling to let her go that the relationship is expected to continue progressing.

 

[Malicre]

Nothing worse except perhaps a woman realizing she has the power. You may be on a different side of the fence for this debate.

I mean, she's not wrong lol. It's 2020 women know that there are a lot of beta males out there that will do literally anything for them and requires giving nothing in return.

 

[shazba]

Maybe (although I'd argue it's exactly because they're not a thing and have never even discussed exclusivity that she can't be mad), HOWEVER your thought process completely disregards the fact that Jill went into that date with every intention of cutting MC off at the end of it so she had no intentions of building on things and establishing a relationship.

Jill planned on that date being like a last hurrah, it's only because MC's unwilling to let her go that the relationship is expected to continue progressing.

Jill was in a tough position whilst the MC was just thinking about where he would next wet his wick.

 

[brichouse]

I mean, she's not wrong lol. It's 2020 women know that there are a lot of beta males out there that will do literally anything for them and requires giving nothing in return.

I mean, I don't really buy into the whole alpha/beta male concept but... Give it up one more time for.... THE POWER OF THE PUSSY!

 

[brichouse]

Jill was in a tough position whilst the MC was just thinking about where he would next wet his wick.

Unfair assessment since MC had been supporting Sage as a friend since the break-up. It's not like MC was expecting that in-between blowing her nose, Sage was gonna suddenly decide she was in the mood to fuck.

 

[Alfius]

Maybe (although I'd argue it's exactly because they're not a thing and have never even discussed exclusivity that she can't be mad), HOWEVER your thought process completely disregards the fact that Jill went into that date with every intention of cutting MC off at the end of it so she had no intentions of building on things and establishing a relationship.

Jill planned on that date being like a last hurrah, it's only because MC's unwilling to let her go that the relationship is expected to continue progressing.

Hmmm, maybe. Or maybe she knew (or was hoping) he was going to fight for her... Which is exactly what he did.

I feel that people are being very hard on Jill, while giving Sage a pass. My point for both the MC, Jill and Sage is that you can not take emotions out of this. People expect, Jill to be understanding, but love is selfish. You want to the first in everything. especially young love.

I'm not mad at Sage for being mad at the MC, nor for Jill being disappointed and hurt after MC rejecting her. For me, both are perfectly normal human reactions.

 

[sitooo]

Compressed version??