VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Murgus]

I think it is clear that Josy likes the MC way more than Maya, even if she likes Maya very much

 

[ChipLecsap]

Yeah it is clear in that scene Jose was willing to give up on Maya and move on with MC. I believe if MC did just blow up on them It would be MC and Jose and they would be Maya who? lol

Anyway. I for one, don't actually believe that Josy straight up would break-up with Maya right there. But the situation and the explanation would have been denefently better, and I would have love to see it that version.

but DPC of course fucked it up. Because MC did promise Josy that he will hear her out, and whether he's original reaction where he overreact it, is justified or not. Not only Josy and Maya never actualy talk with each others about what is the proplem with MC.

But MC act like a bitch for days and never even care to hear Josy out, he is all butt-hurt, until he smoke weed fuck Quinn, and end up drunk enough to finally talk with them after days.

all in all it's a horrible executed plot.on the first place ties with Jill / Tybalt plot, as the worst written and executed part of the game.

Did he learned anything from it, not because he refused any kind of constructive criticism, what could help him to improve.

what matter is the discord echo chamber, and a 13.000 patreon simp whos, other than praising him, and picking the worst options for every poll, and giving him money, can't say shit.

 

[Murgus]

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Anyway. I for one, don't actually believe that Josy straight up would break-up with Maya right there. But the situation and the explanation would have been denefently better, and I would have love to see it that version.

but DPC of course fucked it up. Because MC did promise Josy that he will hear her out, and whether he's original reaction where he overreact it, is justified or not. Not only Josy and Maya never actualy talk with each others about what is the proplem with MC.

But MC act like a bitch for days and never even care to hear Josy out, he is all butt-hurt, until he smoke weed fuck Quinn, and end up drunk enough to finally talk with them after days.

all in all it's a horrible executed plot.on the first place ties with Jill / Tybalt plot, as the worst written and executed part of the game.

Did he learned anything from it, not because he refused any kind of constructive criticism, what could help him to improve.

what matter is the discord echo chamber, and a 13.000 patreon simp whos, other than praising him, and picking the worst options for every poll, and giving him money, can't say shit.

What do you like?

 

[ChipLecsap]

I'm pretty sure you check more often than I do

sure I'm. and and she is not here, sadly, She is to busy scaring the shit out of you I assume?.
could you send her back to my bed, ?!

 

[ChipLecsap]

What do you like?

obviously I would not have 4640 message in this topic if I would not like the game, but if there is flaw than there is flaw.

 

[Darkwen]

The only doubt she shows in this scene is due to MC's dramatic overreaction, pointing out the hypocrisy in his response, MC then proceeds to totally blank Josy and Maya for days after this, even if she still wanted MC in that period she had no idea whether MC still wanted her, in fact she'd be getting more and more convinced that he wasn't interested in her so she reconciled with Maya who was still talking to her and still wanted her.

If MC had behaved like a normal human being there is a good chance that Josy would have chosen him over Maya.

I always though ep3-4 happens over the course of just one day

 

[felicemastronzo]

The only doubt she shows in this scene is due to MC's dramatic overreaction, pointing out the hypocrisy in his response, MC then proceeds to totally blank Josy and Maya for days after this, even if she still wanted MC in that period she had no idea whether MC still wanted her, in fact she'd be getting more and more convinced that he wasn't interested in her so she reconciled with Maya who was still talking to her and still wanted her.

If MC had behaved like a normal human being there is a good chance that Josy would have chosen him over Maya.

MC's great trick of over-reaction that explains and justifies everything.

at that moment nothing has happened yet, at most Maya might be shocked by MC's reaction, Josy has practically run straight to the bathroom and calls him so she can talk to him without the presence of Maya (with whom she should want to clarify the situation)

and when MC arrives she doesn't exactly try very hard to calm him down between unhappy phrases and her usual insecurity

 

[felicemastronzo]

exactly

just don't count everything she says before

the secret of communication is that

 

[ChipLecsap]

I always though ep3-4 happens over the course of just one day

nope, 2-3 day at least, episode 3 end where, Josy arrive, - I say it's a wednesday - that Night MC runs away, and spend it somewhere. I do with Sage, next day, spending it in the Hots house, end with a a movie night, and sex with Sage Friday, Date with Jill, Dik party, kissing Josy, Weed, sex with Quinn, go talk to Josy and Maya, go back to their room, pick Josy over maya

Saturday, car washing scene, end of Hell week, Saturday night cliffhanger, end of episode 4.

end ep 5, continue from Saturday night last until Sunday noon, more or less.

 

[Krytax123]

You're wrong. Josy was not ready to drop Maya. EP4 clearly states that they both had a plan. Both Josy and Maya. Josy and Maya wanted to be together in secret. What does Josy say when she urgently needs to go to the bathroom in EP4? Shit nothing works like she imagined.

I'm scratching Josy perfection now. What didn't work out that Josy wanted? What does Josy want? Josy wants Maya and the MC, both of them. You can't deny that because Josy said it herself and not just once. Josy knows what a "beard" agreement is, you can't deny that either because she told the MC in EP8, not the MC told Josy. Maya and Derek didn't know what "beard" meant in EP10 either.

And here's the kicker. It wasn't about the MC being the "Beard" for one person, it was much more about him being the "Beard" for Josy and Maya's unofficial and secret relationship, or maybe even becoming one if played right. Where is that hidden? In the solo paths of Josy and Maya.

We see the same thing with Sage. If Chad wasn't in an unofficial relationship with Troy, then Sage would have been the Beard for Chad. The Beard would be tied to people. But it's not. Sage served Chad and Troy so that they could keep their unofficial relationship a secret.

You just have to replace Sage with the MC, Josy with Chad, and Maya with Troy.

I can very well see DPC turning the tables on them after AL's shitstorm. Either the MC is fully in the three-way relationship or, the MC will end up without Josy and Maya.

Of course, Josy and Maya also had good times in the past. For example, before Patrick knew about their relationship, because then came the problems. But they still stayed together.

I disagree completly.

Imo Josy and Maya were already (more or less) in a state of break-up, both of them had given up their relationship at this point.

Josy didnt even told Maya thats shes coming to the college and im positive she and tremolo would have become a couple pretty quick if the MC had a solo dorm. Similar with Maya, she considered her relationship with Josy failed at this point and was ready to go all in with tremolo.

Just the random occurence of them being confronted with each other in front of tremolo and tremolo's reaction pushed them back together imo.

Im 100% sure that neither of them thought about a beard or even a throuple at this point.

Josy had butterflies in her stomach and wanted to be with the guy who made her feel like that, i dont think she really had any more grand outstanding plans in motion.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Josy obviously knows what's happened in that scene, there's been communication between her and Maya, or her and MC that we don't see but she's basically saying "You're as bad as me because you knew I was in a relationship and fucked me, you have no right to react like this because you happened to actually know the person I was in a relationship with", she wouldn't say that if she had just followed MC and this is the first words between them since his freakout.

this secret communication between Maya and Josy (who at that moment are not that much in sync) is completely your invention that has no trace in the game, it is as good as a Dailix theory

Josy responds that way because MC claimed she would tell him about Maya and told him she was at BR, and then the response is "but you knew I was in a relationship"

 

[ChipLecsap]

and when MC arrives she doesn't exactly try very hard to calm him down between unhappy phrases and her usual insecurity

well, let's be real for a second. Just like MC is shocked, you can't really bash at Josy for suddenly not knowing what the fuck is going on, when she arrived her secret girlfriend room, and happend to be find there MC of all people.

it's so conveniently written that of all people you happen to be end up with the same person as a roommate, and bound with who is my secret girlfriend. it's almost like you end up meeting with a girl whos family happens to be owning the same House where you parents meet.

oh, there's a word for it. " Destiny . . . . "

 

[felicemastronzo]

well, let's be real for a second. Just like MC is shocked, you can't really bash at Josy for suddenly not knowing what the fuck is going on, when she arrived her secret girlfriend room, and happend to be find there MC of all people.

it's so conveniently written that of all people you happen to be end up with the same person roommate, and bound with who is my secret girlfriend. it's almost like you end up meeting with a girl whos family happens to be owning the same House where you parents meet.

oh, there's a word for it. " Destiny . . . . "

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the quality of writing is what it is, but it applies for better or worse to all characters

but when faced with an agitated person, if the goal is not to start a fight, you don't stand around pointing out his faults without offering him any reassurance

MC tells her that Maya is now his girlfriend and what does Josy reply? That she had never said she had a boyfriend.
Can MC calm down with this response?

then she tells him that he is also at fault because he went with her knowing that she was engaged
can this argument work?

finally she starts talking about mistakes she would have made how he doesn't know how to consider MC
can this argument work?

from that situation in reality things could only have been much worse.

if we want to say it's two teenagers dealing badly with a very complicated situation ok, I can accept that. if instead you want to tell us the fairy tale that Josy was there to declare in front of Maya eternal love towards MC
the quality of writing is what it is, but it applies for better or worse to all characters

but when faced with an agitated person, if the goal is not to start a fight, you don't stand around pointing out his faults without offering him any reassurance

MC tells her that Maya is now his girlfriend and what does Josy reply? That she had never said she had a boyfriend.
Can MC calm down with this response?

then tells him that he is also at fault because he went with her knowing that she was engaged
can this argument work?

finally he starts talking about mistakes she would have made how he doesn't know how to consider MC
can this argument work?

from that situation in reality things could only have been much worse.

if we want to say it's two teenagers dealing badly with a very complicated situation ok, I can accept that. if instead you want to tell us the fairy tale that Josy was there to declare in front of Maya eternal love towards MC, that's fine too, tell it but don't expect me to believe it (just like a dailix theory) that's fine too, tell it but don't expect me to believe it (just like a dailix theory)

 

[ChipLecsap]

if instead you want to tell us the fairy tale that Josy was there to declare in front of Maya eternal love towards MC, that's fine too, tell it but don't expect me to believe it (just like a dailix theory) that's fine too, tell it but don't expect me to believe it (just like a dailix theory)

I admit, I kind of lost the thread of conversation. wtf you talking about ?.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Are you honestly saying that you believe MC's overreaction had no affect on how Josy saw him? As she says she had no plans to talk to Maya, she only saw her because the college put them in the same dorm room. If Josy was put in a random dorm with, for example, Kylie, then she would only have contacted MC not Maya, she'd have got with MC and dumped Maya. That's 100% clear from what Josy says, even when she's mad at him because of his overreaction she makes it clear she wants him over Maya. How does MC react to this revelation? He then blanks her for days, making her think he is no longer interested in her, and in that time she reconciles with Maya and decides to give their relationship another chance.

for you so Josy goes to BR convinced to leave Maya, but then seeing that MC reacts badly she changes her mind not even in a couple of hours, decides to rebuild the relationship with Maya to whom she will never talk about MC, and without really trying to mend the relationship with MC?

MC's reaction definitely has an effect, but so does Josy's way of dealing with it, who instead of putting out the fire spreads gasoline.

if MC had been a cold-blooded monster that night he probably could have "made official" the relationship with either girl, but only at the cost of the relationship between the 2

 

[felicemastronzo]

I admit, I kind of lost the thread of conversation. wtf you talking about ?.

you got pretty distracted

because that's all we're talking about, how Josy goes to the BR to get with MC and he ruins everything with a scene. or not

 

[felicemastronzo]

It was more than a couple hours it was days.

I wouldn't say that, Josy and Maya practically mended their relationship the very night

otherwise Josy in the next two days, before the night at the DIKs' party, would have talked to Maya about MC, or not?

 

[ChipLecsap]

you got pretty distracted

because that's all we're talking about, how Josy goes to the BR to get with MC and he ruins everything with a scene. or not

No, I'm pretty sure I said this
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-10-1-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-13543072

Anyway. I for one, don't actually believe that Josy straight up would break-up with Maya right there. But the situation and the explanation would have been denefently better, and I would have love to see it that version.

but DPC of course fucked it up. Because MC did promise Josy that he will hear her out, and whether he's original reaction where he overreact it, is justified or not. Not only Josy and Maya never actualy talk with each others about what is the proplem with MC.

But MC act like a bitch for days and never even care to hear Josy out, he is all butt-hurt, until he smoke weed fuck Quinn, and end up drunk enough to finally talk with them after days.

 

[felicemastronzo]

No, I'm pretty sure I said this
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-10-1-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-13543072

It's not like I was quoting that post of yours with which I also roughly agree, but others in which it was said that MC's over-reaction had ruined everything

you quoted me when I was talking about exactly that.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Not within a couple of hours, MC refused to even speak to her for days. Why would she think that someone who won't even say a word to her still wants to be with her? By the time the decision comes in ep 4 she's been speaking to Maya a lot, they sit together in classes and share the same room, she hasn't spoken to MC in days because of his immature meltdown and then refusal to talk to them, as far as she knows at that stage the only person who wants to be in a relationship with her is Maya.

In the screenshots you posted yourself Josy clearly says she had only told MC that she was coming to college not Maya, she wanted to start a relationship with MC, not reconcile with Maya. However by the time ep 4 decision comes she's had no chance to talk to MC and has had a lot of time to talk to Maya.

In the episode 4 scene Josy is noticeably quiet during the discussion of how to go forward, either the throuple is suggested by MC and accepted, or the throuple is suggested by MC but rejected by Maya (if DIK affinity) or MC states he only wants to be friends. We don't know how Josy would have reacted if MC had said he wanted to be with her and not Maya.

It is simply not true.

how can you say they haven't patched up the relationship? when josy arrives, maya is convinced the relationship is over, the next morning they are ready to compete for the scavenger hunt together. i think they have pretty much made up. from that moment on they are pretty much always together except when classes separate them

just out of honesty i also left that sentence of having phoned him. however now the last sentence of a much longer dialogue cannot become the only sentence of it.

then ok, mc doesn't want to talk to them: what does josy do to convince him? she writes him a message. amazing she didn't change his mind. at least maya goes there in person and gives him a much more understanding talk.

from your point of view it is always only up to MC to come forward and declare himself, already on the night of the DIKs party he has to force the 2 girls to confess what they did, then however it is perfectly fine that despite Josy's very strong feelings he doesn't say anything if Maya doesn't feel like opening up to this strange relationship with MC and Josy.
Yet another time when Josy should say but says nothing. but of course the blame lies with MC's overreaction 2 days earlier