After this Derek would definitely fuck NeilWe fuck Maya. We fuck Maya's mother (Nora).
Interestingly, I see such whining only on the F95 forum. Reddit fan page, (I don't like Reddit but I have to give them credit) there people are more restrained, I did not see there drama whining and shouting "why so long", "dev milking" and "blame the Interlude".That's an opinion ungrounded in fact until the episode gets released and we can evaluate it.
As for whether other patrons are getting impatient, I'm not seeing anyone expressing any impatience, really. I don't spend much time reading comments on Patreon, so it's possible I'm not seeing them, but I expect the most common demonstration of impatience would be to discontinue being a patron, not leaving a complaint in the comments.
I mean, everyone here is free to express their opinions, of course. I understand impatience and am not insensitive to the argument that DPC is trying to ride this gravy train as long as possible. I think few people would act differently, but to some this may seem a form of "milking supporters." I played "Milfy City" and was as annoyed as everyone else when ICSTOR absconded, but I never contributed to his Patreon, so never posted any complaints or angry reactions. Why would I be angry? I'm not out anything. I'm disappointed that the game will (presumably) never be finished, but the time I spent on it was enjoyable.
So, when people who are not supporters complain about DPC, I find it ridiculous. Not only because they do not support the game financially, but because they are complaining based entirely on speculation.
If you check the list in his room you'll see he's already crossed Neil's name off it, suggesting he has succeeded.After this Derek would definitely fuck Neil![]()
Same. I was disappointed with ep 8, its development time also took longer than previous episodes and it didn't really have all the extensive mini-games that some people say is the reason for the longer development times except for the very last round of the mansion rebuilding mini-game (which I actually enjoyed).I'll disagree in turn. Most of those plot points aren't particularly important. As Sheet420 said, they were added to justify the length of the Interlude. We didn't see Zoey gradually lose enthusiasm for surfing; she tried it once, sucked at it, and then we barely see her on a surfboard again. Zoey's artistic skills would have been better established via the MC's memories (in which case seeing them in action in the Interlude would at least have been a nice treat). Her strictly platonic friendship with Bret goes nowhere and Emma's jealousy comes straight out of left field. Even the big decision about how Zoey handles things with Emma feels like a questionable design choice: it's not like anyone would bat and eyelash if Zoey had a preset personality like all the other LIs.
The only thing the Interlude really *needed* to do was sell us on why Zoey left the MC and why she was returning - and IMHO it did a lousy job at those, too. She left because she was obsessed with a very shallow dream and she came back because she'd run out of money.
I care less about Zoey now than I did before I met her.
Going to have to disagree with this as well. DPC's cliffhangers are uneven at best. Episode 3 was great, but 4 felt underwhelming after the rushed resolution to the Maya/Josy crisis; was there any doubt we'd become a DIK? Episode 5 was effective as a kind of 'hitting rock bottom' moment, but I wouldn't call it a cliffhanger. Episode 6 definitely got our attention, but it was a bit frustrating seeing Maya's arc reset like that - especially if you weren't on her path. Episode 8 hit the reset button even harder, plus it ducked out of the consequences of the Crossroads AND had that moronic one-size-fits-all fuckstorm at the end. Really Episode 7 was the only ending I actually liked in Season 2, and the 'cliffhanger' was the weakest part (to the point Chad/Troy is barely even mentioned in Episode 8).
Frankly, the reason I'm so annoyed at the long production time for Episode 9 is because DPC botched the ending to Season 2 so badly. I want to be enthusiastic for the new season, but I have no idea what he's planning to do with it and I don't like the direction Episode 8 left us in because DPC was too obsessed with his dumb twists to sell me on what was supposedly a pivotal decision in the MC's life.![]()
As Ilhares said, the one thing BaDIK has made absolutely clear is that the MC is a complete communication null-zone whenever the plot demands it. If we can suffer through "Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck. Fuck" for a poorly executed twist, the MC could roll with the abbreviated version of Zoey's vacation photos.The conversation no longer has to happen onscreen because of the interlude. Without the interlude the conversation would have happened because of the type of person Fuckface is, he'd have needed the answers, we now know the answers he gets so we don't need to see them. Yes, it would have been boring, which is part of the reason DPC created the interlude imo, he knew it would be boring and would take a big chunk of the playtime of the episode, so he got it out of the way as a standalone mini-episode while also testing out the import mechanics to make sure it was working properly.
Yet the complaints about both are largely the same. Something along the lines of "Why is this two-hour-long toy commercial trying to sell me girl's toys! I want my boy toys back!"You'd almost think it was the Rise of Skywalker by how badly people have taken it. The main difference being that the interlude actually had a script.
I think that is fine in a TV show to have an episode that focuses on one or two main or even minor characters where you have 10+ weeks of new episodes and at the end a big storyline is wrapped up but when you are waiting 7+ months for one day of content that only slightly moves the story forward it is very frustrating. The Breaking bad episode Fly is similar in that it didn't do much for the main story besides a bit of setup but we had 9 weeks of episodes before that and 3 weeks after. Whereas with the BaDIK interlude we didn't get any content before it for a couple of months or any after it for 7 months so far.any interlude is supposed to represent a break in the action.
3 months versus 8 ... it's not like it's such a bold betI swear people have spent more time whining about the interlude in this thread alone than DPC has making it.
You are making it too easy for yourself. DPC himself wrote that he did the interlude not only for technical reasons, but also so that we players would understand a context later.As Ilhares said, the one thing BaDIK has made absolutely clear is that the MC is a complete communication null-zone whenever the plot demands it. If we can suffer through "Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck. Fuck" for a poorly executed twist, the MC could roll with the abbreviated version of Zoey's vacation photos.
But more importantly, the Interlude didn't include the (present day) MC in the main action. Zoey's still going to have to explain all of this to him on screen so we can instruct him how to react to the news (unless we're in for a repeat of Episode 4's epic moping session). In the end the Interlude didn't save any time, at best it breaks even and at worst it dilutes the impact by making us play part of the combined sequence several months before we get to the important part.
The Interlude spends a lot of time going over trivial details, but it undersells the important parts (like Zoey's actual character growth). It's big because it's padded yet relies entirely on Episode 9 to make it mean anything. We'd have been far better off with a 5-ish minute montage to start Episode 9 and a few flashbacks when the MC and Zoey finally get together to compare notes. What we lost in volume we would more than make up from a tighter focus (to say nothing of saving development time). Instead of being distracted by a bunch of one-shot characters, we'd get to interact with Zoey as she answers our questions via our MC. Ideally we could also skip the bit about her only coming home because she's broke, too; that would make her a little more sympathetic.
I can certainly understand and respect that. It goes without saying that it's the creator's prerogative to keep working until they are satisfied with the result.And thinking of DPC as a perfectionist he want to do it so that he is satisfied, not thinking of the waiting crowd (and not giving a fuck of all here not supporting him by being a patron).
In a nutshell, that's exactly what got me disappointed and worried for the futureThen he goes and says "a few more weeks" to know how many animations are left?
Exactly thisLike, nah bro it's cool. I'm gonna like it. We're all gonna like it. Just release the thing. We all appreciate your passion but I don't think most people are going to care about fucking in zero-g or something crazy technical about the animations when we've got to be alone with Zoey for half of the episode anyway.
Could he ever have said anything different?You are making it too easy for yourself. DPC himself wrote that he did the interlude not only for technical reasons, but also so that we players would understand a context later.
if there was no interlude there would have been a flashback, so something would have been told anyway, maybe less but it's not even certainRegarding DPC's information message, I can only assume that he wants to keep expectations low in order to trigger an "aha" effect later.
You are leaving one thing out. We don't know the connection yet because it only becomes visible with EP9. That's why the interlude, because without the interlude in EP9, the connection would not be recognizable or would be more difficult to grasp.
After all, you can't take a ready-made cake out of the oven if you haven't mixed the ingredients together beforehand.
I would say then that DPC has not done a great job on the 5 LIs in the last 4 years....I, for one, enjoyed The Interlude, and Zoey went from the least explored to the most explored among the main cast, slightly ahead of Maya and Josie (with regards to backstory) so it was time well spent. It was also a good way to break up what is otherwise a rather linear progressing of the timeline (outside of the diary and a scant few flashbacks)
I didn't say we didn't know anything about the others, just that Zoey is now (perhaps) more explored. I mean, we got an extended POV view at months of her life and know a lot about her current motivations and feelings. We know those things from most of the other LIs too, though more slowly like peeling layers off of an onion.I would say then that DPC has not done a great job on the 5 LIs in the last 4 years....
however you have seen the other LIs interacting with each other and with other characters that we "know" anywayI didn't say we didn't know anything about the others, just that Zoey is now (perhaps) more explored. I mean, we got an extended POV view at months of her life and know a lot about her current motivations and feelings. We know those things from most of the other LIs too, though more slowly like peeling layers off of an onion.
The other LIs also have more to reveal (especially Jill, Bella, Sage, and Quinn if we're counting her; I'm sure there's something left of the Maya/Josie backstory too, though it's less obvious)
Whereas Zoey is supposed to be more of a "known thing" to the MC, he's known her a long time. Think of all the other games that have the "old friend" character in them, and how isolated Fuckface is in comparison. This and the mom flashbacks are the only history we have on the MC. It was definitely needed from a story standpoint, even if some might prefer the lack of history to be able to 'self-insert' more easily.
She's a different kind of character, and lets not forget that her purpose in the story currently is to be a "bomb" from the past dropped into whatever is going on. You can't really slowly ramp that up, and I much prefer all of the context we have for her now, rather than her just swinging in like Mylie Cyrus on a wrecking Ball.
I kind of agree with you. Dr. Pink cake usually update information on updates, He never disappointed on end product and he shares art and more Yet more and more winning.Interestingly, I see such whining only on the F95 forum. Reddit fan page, (I don't like Reddit but I have to give them credit) there people are more restrained, I did not see there drama whining and shouting "why so long", "dev milking" and "blame the Interlude".
And judging by what I saw on Patreon, its subscribers respond adequately, the number of donators has been stable for several months within 11.5-13.5k subscribers. So there is no "collapse of subscribers". Only here there is such drama and all because he did not provide data on animations and suggested that he would have to do more animations. Just assumed.
There is a Kindergarten.