No. Mass Effect 3 didn't even try to use variables. DPC has already done more to make our choices count Bioware ever did.DPC finna Mass Effect 3 himself. Too many variables to wonder about
HELL NO!Anyone else fantasizing about a spin-off to this game? Perhaps a prequel where you play as a younger Isabella?
Sometimes you don't have to prove anything, but just scatter doubts to make the corresponding people curious.I never said he has no clue at all or he sees it all clearly. There's plenty of hints in the game, but alot only visable for the player or on certain paths the MC may or may not take.
Treating the fact he saw Mona and Burke leaving a room is only helpful as part of a total of several things happening and only for reconstructing a theory as to why Mona left. But no proof comes from it, only speculations.
Without Mona telling her story to the papers or as witness/victim it's hardly useful against Burke...
The MC can have some ideas about Quinn, but his suspicions towards Quinn aren't very concrete. Quinn is a bitch, gets him tasered, offers prostitution and drugs but Quinn never promises him free tuition nor does she tell him anything that might make him come to any conclusion. MC can get some info from others like Camilla but he knows nobody will go against Quinn...
The main problem is the more corrupted the MC is, the more info is available to him, and the less he can use it...
The whole crux is the connection of Burke and Quinn based on free tuition for sex, there's just hear-say and speculations now.
The ones that know don't speak openly.... Sure, MC can warn Maya but he's going with her to the meeting with Burke...
He can't proof anything, doesn't really know enough, has a bad feeling about it, but also has his trust in Sage...
That was more or less my point. All the potential storybeats from the Restaurant alone would be overwhelming, especially since you can refuse to interact with it all itNo. Mass Effect 3 didn't even try to use variables. DPC has already done more to make our choices count Bioware ever did.
I will be on my deathbed decades from now (more like a few years from now), still fucking salty about that ending.
But what if I don't think of Stephen Burke as a customer, but as what he is? The Dean of B&R. In EP6, we learn that Mona asked someone for sex in exchange for money.but there is no need to know Burke's role (which we don't know either), just consider him a client
1) Quinn has a group of prostitutes and this MC knows, he may not know exactly who they are and what services they offer, but he does know
2) Camila is one of them, he doesn't necessarily know this explicitly, but it is very likely that at the very least she will propose to him (just ask her in the previous episode to help him with Hells Week with outdoor sex)
3) he knows that Mona would like to leave but Quinn makes her stay at the ANO party.
4) Mona escapes from a room from which Burke then also emerges with a very embarrassed face
5) Mona disappears from the BR a few days later.
Getting to the idea that Burke was a client is a legitimate suspicion.
if it were Maya instead of Mona, would he have the slightest doubt that it was Quinn's fault for pushing her to do something she didn't want to do?
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No?Anyone else fantasizing about a spin-off to this game? Perhaps a prequel where you play as a younger Isabella?
The problem Bioware had was that their writing team forgot the most important rule when creating a branching narrative media.That was more or less my point. All the potential storybeats from the Restaurant alone would be overwhelming, especially since you can refuse to interact with it all it
Mass Effect 3 had notions of non-linearity but it became pretty clear that the writers were forcing the player to feel certain things around the time of the end of the 2nd act
We can't say for certain, but I think it's likely. The MC is shown entering the room after the conversation, so we can surmise he didn't hear that. But he did have time to see Jade. If we look at the scene from when the MC did fuck Jade, we get a better sense of the blocking:I'll let Shazba answer this in full, don't want to take away his enjoyment, however just on this point, which you have raised a few times in this debate: We see that Jade sees Fuckface at the party and see her reaction but does Fuckface?
I was busy over the weekend and I didn't have time for a lengthy rebuttal. So I'll just say two things. First, I think you're bending over backwards to justify something that didn't need to be justified!Miracle Max and his misconceptions aside ("to blave..." what bullshit.)
If we spend 5 minutes or more (and we've had a year!) bullet-pointing the potential repercussions to all of the scenarios, the chances are, there are none. Like all of DPC's cliff hangers, they fizzle out as soon as the next episode starts (except for episode 3's cliff hanger with the mc taking most of the episode to get his shit in order after Josy turned up).
So under every one of the Jade/Sage possible scenarios:
There really is no immediate problem.
- mc rejected Jade (after she sexually assaulted him) and he's just friends with Sage
- mc rejected Jade (after she sexually assaulted him) and he recently broke up with Sage
- mc rejected Jade (after she sexually assaulted him) and he's dating Sage
- mc is still fucking Jade and he's just friends with Sage
- mc is still fucking Jade and he broke up with Sage
- mc recently dumped Jade and he's just friends with Sage
- mc recently dumped Jade and he recently broke up with Sage
- mc recently dumped Jade and he's dating Sage
- (luckily there's no scenario where he's still fucking both of them!
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Sage has either accepted the mc has no interest, moved on, or wants to date. She's cool with any option.
Jade has either lost interest in the mc, angry with him for dumping her, or still fucking him. All three scenarios she'll likely take to the grave.
So the mc really has nothing to worry about, unless he's still dating Sage and he just dumped Jade; that could come to a head at some point, but most likely not in the meeting.
So yeah, I'm not saying he's gonna die in the meeting or that Jade is gonna blow up (but you can bet she'll be staring some serious daggers if that's the path you're on).
But what I'm saying is, with maybe 30 seconds notice, the mc was confronted with this information (whatever the scenario was) and he freaked out.
His mind, like a lot of people when suddenly confronted with something daunting, started playing over the worst scenarios for his situation.
If he was fucking Jade, you can bet his mind went straight to this!
But if he was a good boy, that doesn't mean he isn't worried. "Oh fuck, these are Tybalt's parents, they aren't gonna help Maya" or "Oh fuck, it's Jade! This isn't good. What if she's still angry that I didn't accept her advances? What if she won't help Maya because of me? What if she thinks I'm trying to blackmail her into paying Maya's tuition with the threat of exposing her lustful escapades and she hires a hitman!"
So he started freaking out.
It doesn't have to be like that, but the key point is: It is fucking plausible. And if it's plausible, you don't even need to suspend disbelief, you can just accept it and move the fuck on, instead of harping on about it for the entire fucking year as if it has ruined the entire game for you.
Even the Maya loan, which we all agree is total bullshit, can be swept under the carpet as "Maya doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about", and then you just move on. Of course, I'm still here for anyone who needs further clarification of what actually happened regarding the loan.
And the Tybalt blackmail, he was bluffing, I knew he was bluffing (). And Jill is naïve. Jill truly didn't believe Tybalt was a slimy as she finally realised he was, and then she fucking gave it to him, and I don't mean her v-card.
And for fun, to put this into a real life context that I have lived through, I have had two separate but slightly similar experiences:
Also, you keep purporting (almost didn't wanna use this word, makes me come across like a freshy trying to look smart), that the mc should have weighed up that his current situation isn't as bad as it could have been; that's something you do retrospectively, not in a moment of panic:
- I gave a friend of a friend a ride home several years back. I didn't know this woman at all (she was probably about 10 years older than me, I was around 20 at the time), and I wasn't interested in her, but her house was on the way and my friend asked me to drop her and it was no trouble.
When we arrive at her place, she literally grabbed my cock through my jeans and started to suck on my ear. It was awkward as fuck, and was all like, "I think you got the wrong idea", and she got kinda angry and left the car in a huff.
I haven't met her since (I don't even catch up with our mutual friend all that much, but it's unrelated), but when I think about it, I would feel very uncomfortable if I met her again.
I reckon the age difference plays into it, because if she was my age, I wouldn't feel so bad and would probably tease her if we met again, but because she was a lot older, it just feels like it tips the scales. If she was a teacher, it would tip the scales even more.
- And that brings me to my second story (and I've told this one before). In high school my Japanese teacher (who wasn't actually Japanese, but whatever), was giving me afterschool tutelage (because I sucked at Japanese). She was married, and even joked on the phone to her husband that I was her "boyfriend" (in hindsight I'm glad her husband didn't track me down and beat the fuck outta me or something).
In the end I quit Japanese because I really did suck at it, and she never spoke to me again. If she was on duty in the schoolyard and I walked past her, she'd totally ghost me. She wouldn't even look at me. Like I made her really angry for quitting.
Now I never spoke to her again, but if I was still in school and suddenly found out I was going into an important meeting with some friends and it turned out to be with her, I don't know what I'd think, and I wasn't even fucking her!
For the record, she was quirky cute, and I totally liked her, and when I look back I can't help but think maybe I missed an opportunity there...
Derek: "Cheer up, it could be worse, imagine if you actually ended up fucking Jade, filmed it for Hell Week, and somehow the video got into Burke's hands!"
mc: "Good point, that'd be way worse. Now I feel like a snowflake for freaking out when all that happened was my friend's mom groped my balls a few times and flashed her cunt to me."
Derek: "You are a snowflake."
The game has its faults, sure it does. There are genuine scenes where suspension of disbelief is required. E.g. the mc blew will blow his load faster with Sage if he fucks Lily, Becky (or at least her face), Riona and/or Cammy first. But it doesn't work like that. What DPC was obviously trying to portray was that the mc was worn out from all his fucking, but it would have looked worse if the mc ran out of steam and couldn't cum at all, so he just used poetic licence for this 2-out-of-5 / 3-out-of-5 scene.
But the take away from all of this is his "Fuck. Fuck. Fuck." reaction to any of the scenarios, when suddenly confronted with the knowledge of who Sage's family is, is justifiable enough in isolation. And that it's the same reaction regardless of scenario doesn't mean shit, since there's only one scenario in any one timeline. And who knows, maybe in the most benign of all scenarios, the mc was just in a more dramatic mood that day.
That's a very good point, because it seems very early on Jacob is gonna say something about Sage and the Burkes to the mc but he gets cut off, so at least some of the DIKs know, if not all of them.![]()
Jade starts with Tybalt's photo, but she throws all three of them by the time the scene ends - in the order they were arranged on the table. I don't think she paid much attention to the images, just which one was nearest to her hand.And yet he hasn't made Rio cum or scored above a 3/5. Who knows just how much experience he got while banging Zoey? There's a lot you can do with just one other person.
Reason to consider him a bio-child: their hair. That's pretty much it.
Reasons not to? He doesn't call her mother, but more importantly, when she had her confrontation with Burke it was a picture of Tybalt that got thrown. She had her choice of three frames, and instead of Sage ir her wedding/couples pic, she chose to throw Tybs. Most (loving) mothers wouldn't do that on principle.
ME1 had plenty of this. To give a small example, you can repeatedly hang up on the council. This changes nothing in the grand scheme of the game. In fact, you can still choose to save the Destiny Ascension. Only some dialogue changes but it still allowed the player's Shepard a degree of agency in regard to how they reacted to the world around themThis doesn't have to create infinite amounts of work either. The ideal is the create an ILLUSION of choice. Some choices would go no where. Others would fold back into the main narrative. Still others would no choice at all. Arrival had no choice at the end, but it still had emotional weight and gravitas if you TRIED to warn the Batarians.
This question is probably irrelevant now as I got to the end of episode 7 and my game crashes when starting the recap of 8. Am wondering if its related to the error in my save from above but whatever it is guess the only answer is to start again. I'll avoid any Cathy interaction where possible and hope I can get to the end this time and not lose Bella.I'm on my first playthrough of this and thoroughly enjoying the story but I've just got to the scene where Bella shows MC Cathy's panties. I've read why that happens in this thread but I have not triggered that. There was no BJ in the car taking Cathy home, I've nothing in her bio about it and no unlocked scene for it. I did swipe up on Cathy on the app once but nothing else. I saw a few reports of this and guess its a bug but any Ideas if I can fix this please?
I don't have any mods installed but if I can edit a file to change the outcome great. I don't really want you start again or go back to an earlier save as I've no idea where it's gone wrong and I was enjoying the Bella route.
Any help will be much appreciated.
Its pretty easy, you can be as nice as you want to Cathy. (She is really a fine lady and deserveres to be treated nicely) During Episode 4 you get the app swyper on your phone by Derek... you can swype Cathy here, doint it right it gets pretty hot.This question is probably irrelevant now as I got to the end of episode 7 and my game crashes when starting the recap of 8. Am wondering if its related to the error in my save from above but whatever it is guess the only answer is to start again. I'll avoid any Cathy interaction where possible and hope I can get to the end this time and not lose Bella.
Any chance you can post the HD version of these? If any.