VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

I don't know if it would be that easy, for them it was probably just one night stand, depends on how well they know Bella I guess, MC doesn't really share about the girls he hangs out with and I don't think the DIKs are nosy enough to actually know those things so...

I would say that Bella looks quite recognizable, and even they would think of the one-night stand (after Bella, a teacher known for her tough character, showed up there in the afternoon to help MC? seems naive as a thought), already it seems far-fetched to me not to recognize her, but for years we have believed Clark Kent's glasses, but once seen near MC it seems a really immediate doubt that the mummy is really her.

I had a professor that went to Harvard he said it wasn't hard of a school ... Harvard elementary. It isn't uncommon to go to a college just because people you care about go there

Of the two, it seems more credible to me that it is Maya who accepted a less prestigious college to stay close to Josy.

Josy may have chosen the BR for Maya, but the BR chose Josy only after a very long consideration, they were probably waiting for Bret and Emma to apply

 

[Darkwen]

I would say that Bella looks quite recognizable, and even they would think of the one-night stand (after Bella, a teacher known for her tough character, showed up there in the afternoon to help MC? seems naive as a thought), already it seems far-fetched to me not to recognize her, but for years we have believed Clark Kent's glasses, but once seen near MC it seems a really immediate doubt that the mummy is really her.




Of the two, it seems more credible to me that it is Maya who accepted a less prestigious college to stay close to Josy.

Josy may have chosen the BR for Maya, but the BR chose Josy only after a very long consideration, they were probably waiting for Bret and Emma to apply

Josy adds class to the place

 

[Jumbi]

Pack Quest : The other bloody five ....????

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The above excerpt is from the official guide for season 3 interlude and episode 9.

 

[JaxMan]

No girl in the history of ever was happy to find out a guy she liked was off to see another girl instead of going out with her on a picnic she had impromptuly put together for his birthday.

If you don't get that, you ain't getting laid... ever.

She didn't say it was a picnic for his birthday though. Also, it wasn't meant to define someone's personality, it was designed to be a "gotcha moment" by DPC. I don't even remember if he told her it was for a female friend, just a friend. Could be wrong on that as it has been a long time since having that scene.

 

[DarkKiller]

I would say that Bella looks quite recognizable, and even they would think of the one-night stand (after Bella, a teacher known for her tough character, showed up there in the afternoon to help MC? seems naive as a thought), already it seems far-fetched to me not to recognize her, but for years we have believed Clark Kent's glasses, but once seen near MC it seems a really immediate doubt that the mummy is really her.

It's one of those suspension of disbelief things, if we're going by that then she'd probably be recognized by more than a few people in that party whom she teached, even she says she knows more people than MC thinks when they were in the bathroom so... We just have to believe that to everybody else in the BaDIK verse Bella just looks like your regular hot milf...

 

[felicemastronzo]

It's one of those suspension of disbelief things, if we're going by that then she'd probably be recognized by more than a few people in that party whom she teached, even she says she knows more people than MC thinks when they were in the bathroom so... We just have to believe that to everybody else in the BaDIK verse Bella just looks like your regular hot milf...

Exactly, as I said like Clark Kent's glasses.

 

[felicemastronzo]

A mistake that a lot of people make is that Jill dumps the mc because he chose Sage over her. It may have been the catalyst for a chain reaction, but it wasn't Jill's reasoning.

No girl in the history of ever was happy to find out a guy she liked was off to see another girl instead of going out with her on a picnic she had impromptuly put together for his birthday.

If you don't get that, you ain't getting laid... ever.

Schrodinger's picnic

 

[DarkKiller]

We've been told by DPC that Bella's disguise wasn't enough to fool people. Sage, Maya and Josy see through it. Therefore the assumption is that most students would have too.

The question is whether those that see through the costume also see her with Fuckface and put 2 and 2 together regarding her presence or whether they just think she's going incognito to have some fun.

Only Sage saw through it though, and Jill obviously, Derek recognized her voice. Other than that Josy and Maya only knew because of Sage.

 

[DarkKiller]

Sage and Derek are at separate ends of the intelligence spectrum. That alone suggests other people would have recognised her. We actually don't see anyone who spent any time around her at the party not recognising her and there are plenty of people we don't explicitly see spending time round her who would've done, the nature of the episode means we don't see everything she said and did at the party.

Derek is an idiot but by all accounts he's not dumb at all, I don't really understand why you're saying that about his intelligence.

 

[Gato21]

Derek is an idiot but by all accounts he's not dumb at all, I don't really understand why you're saying that about his intelligence.

He's just jealous of his cocktail making skills while being a sussy baka and getting away with it.

 

[Jumbi]

He seems to have booksmarts, or at least a way of appearing like he has them. In social situations he's not at all intelligent, we see that with Ash, we could see from a distance that she was interested in him the same way as he was interested in her, but he had no clue until she got upset over Wendy.

Yeah, he is not the finest at picking up social cues, all right. But that still does not mean he lacks intelligence. Many intelligent people are weird that way or others.

 

[shazba]

She didn't say it was a picnic for his birthday though. Also, it wasn't meant to define someone's personality, it was designed to be a "gotcha moment" by DPC. I don't even remember if he told her it was for a female friend, just a friend. Could be wrong on that as it has been a long time since having that scene.

When the mc turns Jill down for Sage he makes it obvious it's a girl he's going to see:

mc: "I'm so sorry. You caught me at a bad time""​

mc: "I made a promise to a friend to come help her."​

mc: "She's sick and needs someone to take care of her."​

When they arrive at their picnic destination:

Jill: "We're here!"​

mc: "I have no clue where here is."​

Jill: "Here is where we will have your birthday picnic!"​

mc: "A picnic? What a surprise!"​

So yeah, definitely Jill knew it was a girl he was blowing her off for, and she definitely planned the outing for his birthday.

She was a little caught of guard but pleasant when he told her he had other plans:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand.!"​

Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous.!"​

Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha...!"​

Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday.!"​

People's emotions are what they are. You can rationalise "It's fine, I didn't tell him about this in advance", but that doen't mean a person won't be upset when their efforts are for nothing, particularly if another girl is involved.

And as I keep saying, she didn't decide to dump the mc because of it, but it affected their relationship a bit, and unfortunately that snowballed into them eventually breaking up.

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Schrodinger's picnic

The only thing related to Schrodinger's theory here is there is pussy involved.

The two quotes are related but not contradictory.

Jill didn't directly dump the mc because he didn't go on the picnic with her. Going on the picnic set off a chain reaction of events that lead to the strengthening of their relationship:

• The mc confessing to Jill that he was falling in love with her in the picnic rains sequence.
• The mc redefining the terms on how they would handle Tybalt's blackmail in the same picnic rain sequence.
• The Balcony climbing scene which left Jill wanting more.
• The morning run with that lewd display in/by the river.
• The visit to her friends.
• Jill's decision to lose her virginity to the mc.

Not going on the picnic derailed some things:

• The mc didn't confess his love to Jill.
• The mc didn't tell her he was going to see her regardless of Tybalt's blackmail.
• The balcony climbing scene left Jill feeling something was missing in their relationship.
• The morning run didn't happen, therefore Jill didn't take the extra step of almost touching the mc's cock.
• Jill decided not to invite the mc to meet her friends.
• Jill will remain a virgin for life.

It's "Sliding Doors" man!

The point being, that Jill didn't end the relationship just because the mc didn't go on the picnic.

That doesn't mean she was a peachy keen Jilly bean when he turned her down. It's only natural for her to be disappointed.

So to those who are saying she was a hypocrite for getting upset when he turned down the picnic invite, it's only natural for her to be upset after excitedly putting in an effort for the birthday celebration with her guy, only to be turned down by him because he's off to help another woman.

And to those who are saying Jill dumped the mc because he didn't go on the picnic, there's way more to it than that.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

And yet again with the tiny details, I just noticed that if you go into Derek's room after the electrical outage during E9 you can see a slight amount of red flashing if you look at the light reflected on the rear wall.

I'd take screenshots but I've been having a problem taking screenshots of the game, I have to open the screenshots folder and take a screenshot and then I can take one single screenshot normally, anyone have any idea how to solve this?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

When the mc turns Jill down for Sage he makes it obvious it's a girl he's going to see:

mc: "I'm so sorry. You caught me at a bad time""​

mc: "I made a promise to a friend to come help her."​

mc: "She's sick and needs someone to take care of her."​

When they arrive at their picnic destination:

Jill: "We're here!"​

mc: "I have no clue where here is."​

Jill: "Here is where we will have your birthday picnic!"​

mc: "A picnic? What a surprise!"​

So yeah, definitely Jill knew it was a girl he was blowing her off for, and she definitely planned the outing for his birthday.

She was a little caught of guard but pleasant when he told her he had other plans:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand.!"​

Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous.!"​

Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha...!"​

Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday.!"​

People's emotions are what they are. You can rationalise "It's fine, I didn't tell him about this in advance", but that doen't mean a person won't be upset when their efforts are for nothing, particularly if another girl is involved.

And as I keep saying, she didn't decide to dump the mc because of it, but it affected their relationship a bit, and unfortunately that snowballed into them eventually breaking up.


The only thing related to Schrodinger's theory here is there is pussy involved.

The two quotes are related but not contradictory.

Jill didn't directly dump the mc because he didn't go on the picnic with her. Going on the picnic set off a chain reaction of events that lead to the strengthening of their relationship:

• The mc confessing to Jill that he was falling in love with her in the picnic rains sequence.
• The mc redefining the terms on how they would handle Tybalt's blackmail in the same picnic rain sequence.
• The Balcony climbing scene which left Jill wanting more.
• The morning run with that lewd display in/by the river.
• The visit to her friends.
• Jill's decision to lose her virginity to the mc.

Not going on the picnic derailed some things:

• The mc didn't confess his love to Jill.
• The mc didn't tell her he was going to see her regardless of Tybalt's blackmail.
• The balcony climbing scene left Jill feeling something was missing in their relationship.
• The morning run didn't happen, therefore Jill didn't take the extra step of almost touching the mc's cock.
• Jill decided not to invite the mc to meet her friends.
• Jill will remain a virgin for life.

It's "Sliding Doors" man!

The point being, that Jill didn't end the relationship just because the mc didn't go on the picnic.

That doesn't mean she was a peachy keen Jilly bean when he turned her down. It's only natural for her to be disappointed.

So to those who are saying she was a hypocrite for getting upset when he turned down the picnic invite, it's only natural for her to be upset after excitedly putting in an effort for the birthday celebration with her guy, only to be turned down by him because he's off to help another woman.

And to those who are saying Jill dumped the mc because he didn't go on the picnic, there's way more to it than that.

Well said! This is exactly what I have been saying but you explained it so well!

 

[lipe2410]

Not going with Jill allow us have the threesome with Nicole and Sandy. This is enough reason to not give a fuck to that shit picnic

 

[Gato21]

Not going with Jill allow us have the threesome with Nicole and Sandy. This is enough reason to not give a fuck to that shit picnic

Nicole, maybe. Sandy, pass. Unfortunately, the threesome comes with a complementary Sandy.

 

[lipe2410]

Nicole, maybe.

 

[JaxMan]

When the mc turns Jill down for Sage he makes it obvious it's a girl he's going to see:

mc: "I'm so sorry. You caught me at a bad time""​

mc: "I made a promise to a friend to come help her."​

mc: "She's sick and needs someone to take care of her."​

When they arrive at their picnic destination:

Jill: "We're here!"​

mc: "I have no clue where here is."​

Jill: "Here is where we will have your birthday picnic!"​

mc: "A picnic? What a surprise!"​

So yeah, definitely Jill knew it was a girl he was blowing her off for, and she definitely planned the outing for his birthday.

She was a little caught of guard but pleasant when he told her he had other plans:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand.!"​

Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous.!"​

Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha...!"​

Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday.!"​

People's emotions are what they are. You can rationalise "It's fine, I didn't tell him about this in advance", but that doen't mean a person won't be upset when their efforts are for nothing, particularly if another girl is involved.

And as I keep saying, she didn't decide to dump the mc because of it, but it affected their relationship a bit, and unfortunately that snowballed into them eventually breaking up.


The only thing related to Schrodinger's theory here is there is pussy involved.

The two quotes are related but not contradictory.

Jill didn't directly dump the mc because he didn't go on the picnic with her. Going on the picnic set off a chain reaction of events that lead to the strengthening of their relationship:

• The mc confessing to Jill that he was falling in love with her in the picnic rains sequence.
• The mc redefining the terms on how they would handle Tybalt's blackmail in the same picnic rain sequence.
• The Balcony climbing scene which left Jill wanting more.
• The morning run with that lewd display in/by the river.
• The visit to her friends.
• Jill's decision to lose her virginity to the mc.

Not going on the picnic derailed some things:

• The mc didn't confess his love to Jill.
• The mc didn't tell her he was going to see her regardless of Tybalt's blackmail.
• The balcony climbing scene left Jill feeling something was missing in their relationship.
• The morning run didn't happen, therefore Jill didn't take the extra step of almost touching the mc's cock.
• Jill decided not to invite the mc to meet her friends.
• Jill will remain a virgin for life.

It's "Sliding Doors" man!

The point being, that Jill didn't end the relationship just because the mc didn't go on the picnic.

That doesn't mean she was a peachy keen Jilly bean when he turned her down. It's only natural for her to be disappointed.

So to those who are saying she was a hypocrite for getting upset when he turned down the picnic invite, it's only natural for her to be upset after excitedly putting in an effort for the birthday celebration with her guy, only to be turned down by him because he's off to help another woman.

And to those who are saying Jill dumped the mc because he didn't go on the picnic, there's way more to it than that.

Dude, I said that I wasn't sure he told her it was a girl. So, I was wrong. But, previous to that, I was pointing out that she didn't say it was a picnic for his birthday when she invited him. Which could have given the player a little more information to make a decision. Results you state are all scripted by DPC, so yes it was a gotcha moment where if you didn't know before hand what it implied you were most likely going to mess up and it was permanent with no way to recover. The performance should have opened up the window for romance again. All that could have been accomplished at the picnic could have been restarted at the recital. Which would of fit into your emotional reasoning.

 

[Gato21]

Dude, I said that I wasn't sure he told her it was a girl. So, I was wrong. But, previous to that, I was pointing out that she didn't say it was a picnic for his birthday when she invited him. Which could have given the player a little more information to make a decision. Results you state are all scripted by DPC, so yes it was a gotcha moment where if you didn't know before hand what it implied you were most likely going to mess up and it was permanent with no way to recover. The performance should have opened up the window for romance again. All that could have been accomplished at the picnic could have been restarted at the recital. Which would of fit into your emotional reasoning.

Spoiler: sorry, saw your name and this song randomly popped in my head

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[Geralt From Rivia]

When the mc turns Jill down for Sage he makes it obvious it's a girl he's going to see:

mc: "I'm so sorry. You caught me at a bad time""​

mc: "I made a promise to a friend to come help her."​

mc: "She's sick and needs someone to take care of her."​

When they arrive at their picnic destination:

Jill: "We're here!"​

mc: "I have no clue where here is."​

Jill: "Here is where we will have your birthday picnic!"​

mc: "A picnic? What a surprise!"​

So yeah, definitely Jill knew it was a girl he was blowing her off for, and she definitely planned the outing for his birthday.

She was a little caught of guard but pleasant when he told her he had other plans:

Jill: "Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand.!"​

Jill: "I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous.!"​

Jill: "You're allowed to have other plans. Haha...!"​

Jill: "So, uh. Happy birthday.!"​

People's emotions are what they are. You can rationalise "It's fine, I didn't tell him about this in advance", but that doen't mean a person won't be upset when their efforts are for nothing, particularly if another girl is involved.

And as I keep saying, she didn't decide to dump the mc because of it, but it affected their relationship a bit, and unfortunately that snowballed into them eventually breaking up.


The only thing related to Schrodinger's theory here is there is pussy involved.

The two quotes are related but not contradictory.

Jill didn't directly dump the mc because he didn't go on the picnic with her. Going on the picnic set off a chain reaction of events that lead to the strengthening of their relationship:

• The mc confessing to Jill that he was falling in love with her in the picnic rains sequence.
• The mc redefining the terms on how they would handle Tybalt's blackmail in the same picnic rain sequence.
• The Balcony climbing scene which left Jill wanting more.
• The morning run with that lewd display in/by the river.
• The visit to her friends.
• Jill's decision to lose her virginity to the mc.

Not going on the picnic derailed some things:

• The mc didn't confess his love to Jill.
• The mc didn't tell her he was going to see her regardless of Tybalt's blackmail.
• The balcony climbing scene left Jill feeling something was missing in their relationship.
• The morning run didn't happen, therefore Jill didn't take the extra step of almost touching the mc's cock.
• Jill decided not to invite the mc to meet her friends.
• Jill will remain a virgin for life.

It's "Sliding Doors" man!

The point being, that Jill didn't end the relationship just because the mc didn't go on the picnic.

That doesn't mean she was a peachy keen Jilly bean when he turned her down. It's only natural for her to be disappointed.

So to those who are saying she was a hypocrite for getting upset when he turned down the picnic invite, it's only natural for her to be upset after excitedly putting in an effort for the birthday celebration with her guy, only to be turned down by him because he's off to help another woman.

And to those who are saying Jill dumped the mc because he didn't go on the picnic, there's way more to it than that.

When I first registered here and ran through Jill's route, I also condemned Jill for the picnic, considered her behavior to be capricious and selfish in case of refusal. I was a little biased. But your posts helped clear things up, it's a very good explanation of why the picnic is the key point in the Jill/MC relationship.
Of course, in my eyes, as a LI, she remains in last place for other reasons, but this helps to understand her better.
Another important explanation comes from your post, many players ask this question: why didn't Jill reschedule the picnic for another time?
Answer: Because she was disappointed, as you wrote. She didn't like that you refused her and went to make time for another girl. Not one girl will not like this behavior, especially at the beginning of a relationship it is very important.
Jill wanted to make a pleasant MC, she had a spark, a spontaneous idea with a picnic. MC refuses her - the spark is extinguished.