DuckDairyDip

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maybe my memory is off as well then, cause i thought it was already basically stated that he is like an absent minded genius by Cathy or Bella or somebody? and that Gina was the girl using the cheats in the toilet?? idk if i remember

either way, none of that can explain how Arieth has not only been enrolled but not flunked out of the school yet. if Arieth can do those things, it doesnt really make any sense that anybody else should be scrutinized too heavily
If I remember right, he does cheat, but the papers in the toilet weren't his since if he is confronted by the MC, he basically says he would never leave his evidence out in the open like that. Didn't know there was evidence Gina may have been the one cheating though.
 

felicemastronzo

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To me the Maya and Josy revelation was so far the biggest curveball and a textbook curveball at that. Like how many posts have we seen of people asking how to get rid of one of the two ?

You play the game and you really like one of the two and then you find out you have to either share her with a girl you dislike or you lose her.

I really wish we could start a poll to find out how many, if given the choice, would've chosen Josy or Maya over both.

I have a feeling the result would make it look more like a punishment than a gift and at least to me it was 100% unexpected and a huge bummer.
but that was the story DPC wanted to tell, without that situation it would not have been BADIk, but another game

if from the meeting in MC's future room a couple other than M&J would have come out, Maya's problem would have been solved (if she had been with MC she had nothing to hide, if she had lost Josy, living in hiding or waiting for her college years would have been a minor effort), at that point no more scavenger hunt, no more danger from Patrick's visit, no more Sage's intervention to help Maya... practically 60-70% of BADIk's story would have been skipped, basically only Tybalt's blackmail would have been left... not a good prospect...

as a general rule: in my opinion, DPC often exaggerated these moments and did not always achieve the desired effect.

I am not convinced that the reaction to certain moments was always what DPC had intended.
 

felicemastronzo

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My memory if this game is getting hazy. I thought the game made it pretty clear he was cheating? Is there a double bluff I missed?

I mean… the guy sells you “cheats” and if I recall correctly you can find his notes in the toilet and confront him about how stupid it was to leave them just kicking about.
The legend of Derek's genius stems from a conversation with Bella who reveals to MC the "secret" of how Derek is a genius based on the results he is achieving in college.

then that everyone knows how he achieved these results is merely a fact, therefore insufficient to unhinge a theory
 
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k1n5l4y3r

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Talking about Quinn, how does her drug dealing even works?
I've never been a dealer so I don't know how it usually works, but she sells the drugs, gives the money to the boss, then gets a cut of what she sold? Then how about the drugs she sells, she buys them or loans them?
 

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Talking about Quinn, how does her drug dealing even works?
I've never been a dealer so I don't know how it usually works, but she sells the drugs, gives the money to the boss, then gets a cut of what she sold? Then how about the drugs she sells, she buys them or loans them?
I think that in that kind or organization, the boss buys a lot of drugs for a certain amount, then give an amount to his dealer who cut in lower amount to sell them at a higher price like idk he buys 10g for 100€ and his dealers sell 1g for 12€
 
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Talking about Quinn, how does her drug dealing even works?
I've never been a dealer so I don't know how it usually works, but she sells the drugs, gives the money to the boss, then gets a cut of what she sold? Then how about the drugs she sells, she buys them or loans them?
Essentially buy low sell high and you get a cut of the profits.
 
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but that was the story DPC wanted to tell, without that situation it would not have been BADIk, but another game

if from the meeting in MC's future room a couple other than M&J would have come out, Maya's problem would have been solved (if she had been with MC she had nothing to hide, if she had lost Josy, living in hiding or waiting for her college years would have been a minor effort), at that point no more scavenger hunt, no more danger from Patrick's visit, no more Sage's intervention to help Maya... practically 60-70% of BADIk's story would have been skipped, basically only Tybalt's blackmail would have been left... not a good prospect...

as a general rule: in my opinion, DPC often exaggerated these moments and did not always achieve the desired effect.

I am not convinced that the reaction to certain moments was always what DPC had intended.
It's true that the Maya/Josy story arch branches deeper into the story than probably any other plot in the game so far, but we were talking about curveballs.

As far as I know nobody saw it coming and just like Jade may have "ruined" many peoples savefiles for Sage, the scene when Josy suddenly stands in the door probably "ruined" it for all those who were just interessted in one of the two girls.

Now we have hindsight, we know how important the Josy/Maya relationship is to the story, but back then ? I mean it was the definition of a curveball and when it happend I was still sure that we could pick either one of them and not that it would end up being both or none.

It's entirely possible that DPC underestimated the reactions or flat out never saw them coming. I often wonder if he adapts on the fly when he notices that the players interpret things differently than he intended or if he just sticks to his script no matter what.

If I understand you right, than maybe curveball was just the wrong word. I think what you really ment is that his cliffhangers and teasers usually dont provide the same satisfaction as they hint at and sometimes even none at all(chad), which I, at least in part, blame on the long development time, but also agree with. Players have a looooong time to come up with what could happen and then it grows from there as other people add to it, creating a whole nother level of expectations.
 
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My memory if this game is getting hazy. I thought the game made it pretty clear he was cheating? Is there a double bluff I missed?

I mean… the guy sells you “cheats” and if I recall correctly you can find his notes in the toilet and confront him about how stupid it was to leave them just kicking about.
This is the part of the script that goes about the conversation between Derek and the MC about the papers with the answers to the test. Either Derek is shamelessly lying to Fuckface or he did not cheat in the midterms test.

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Talking about Quinn, how does her drug dealing even works?
I've never been a dealer so I don't know how it usually works, but she sells the drugs, gives the money to the boss, then gets a cut of what she sold? Then how about the drugs she sells, she buys them or loans them?
Well, usually dealers use drugs themselves, and the main incentive for them is to get a dose. But not always. One way or another, regardless of whether the dealer himself uses or not, as a rule, they take the goods for sale, that is, they pay the supplier after they have sold the received goods. And the smaller the dealer, the more he dilutes the goods. It happens that the dealer dilutes the doses by more than 2/3. And this is the main reason for their problems.
 
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My memory if this game is getting hazy. I thought the game made it pretty clear he was cheating? Is there a double bluff I missed?
i thought it was already basically stated that he is like an absent minded genius by Bella?

Gina was the girl using the cheats in the toilet??
I don't think it's fully confirmed either way.

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I don't think it's fully confirmed either way.

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if Derek is a genius, him selling the cheats could just be him selling his own work to stupider/lazier students i guess
 

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SanchoMod - Update (non-critical)
The "Money For Nothing and Chicks For Free" update
You spoke, I listened (mostly)

Links in mod's OP and it's associated FAQ are updated accordingly.
The best little mod from Texas just got even better.

Changlelog:
  • New feature - Added a new event cheat for "Ep4ToldDerekAboutJade". See mod FAQ for details.
  • New feature - Added more hidden magazine notifications. See mod FAQ for details.
  • New feature - Added automated code allowing Episode Summaries to reflect any alt-character name changes. See mod FAQ for details.
  • New feature - Even more improved VarCheats within SanchoCheats that are Branch specific. See mod FAQ for details.
  • New feature - Enhanced the MiniStat to automatically get out of the way during FreeRoam if there's a right-navigation arrow, hidden object, etc. See mod FAQ for details.
  • New feature - After listening to all the bitching and moaning I've coded a proper Money cheat that uses the dev's code so you can't bork it out. See mod FAQ for details.
  • So many minor tweaks I can't even begin to log them all.
Go get you some. Enjoy and regards as always.
Welp, easy-come easy-go. Seems after a few months in the VN's OP SanchoMod has been removed yet again.

So, here's a friendly reminder that it's still a thing.

Go get you some.

Sidenote: Just list both the damn mods, quit flip-flopping the listing of Scrappy's or Sancho's and allow site members to know what choices they have. They're all big boys and girls and should be allowed to choose what they wish without prejudice or discrimination. This isn't a fucking competition and it shouldn't be political. List the proper resources, both mods are produced by a couple of the most competent coders in the genre.
 

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This is the part of the script that goes about the conversation between Derek and the MC about the papers with the answers to the test. Either Derek is shamelessly lying to Fuckface or he did not cheat in the midterms test.

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Also if MC study the answers and cheat, MC tell him that he's cheated and Derek scolds him.
 
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I'm gonna assume by curveball you mean unexpected events that weren't predictable before they happened and shook things up, so from the top of my head and in no particular order:

1. Josy and Maya being in a relationship.
2. Jade being Sage's and Tybalt's adoptive mother.
3. The DIK mansion being trashed and the MC basically going from maggot to leader in an instant.
4. Cathy leaving, I really thought the MC would be balls deep in her in no time.
5. Mona leaving, still bummed about that one.
6. Vinnie's return and a gun being introduced right at the first MC/Vinnie encounter.

All of those genuinely surprised me, but admittedly only the first two had/will have any real impact on the story. There was no more Josy or Maya, there was both or none and the Jade/Sage "dilemma"...well we all know it won't end in a hot and steamy threeway.

The other four...well to stay in the baseball vernacular, totally came out of left field for me.
mona was best girl
 
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