SirDawcio

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Episode 9 indicated that DPC's lost the plot as regards to what feels right. The dude's long-ass animations were just pointless. He even had an animation of the preps coming to the Halloween party in their whatever-the-fuck-they-were-wearing costumes. No one gives a fuck about the preps, why include them in an animation that probably took a day to do?

If episode 10 turns out to be a DPC vanity-project (which is the direction this game seems to have started to take), I'll have pretty much lost interest. Sure it's polished and looks better than most games, but it's becoming bloated the way all good products go once they forget what they are doing...

Totally hope to be proven wrong!
Oh, I totally agree on some animations being totally unnecessary (never played Josy&Maya path, recently discovered Maya's pool animation took half of EP8 production time lol) but could you elaborate on how those animations and the focus on them, which prolongs development time, indicate DPC lost the plot? Many people regarded EP9 as worse than its predecessors in terms of writing because it didn't move the story forward, something I hope will be fixed in EP10. But I don't know how it is connected to the plot.

Everyone loves badik's story, but then when they have to talk about it the only quality would be better than most of the other avn, which are often semi-amateurishly written by people who have problens with English. Good but not great :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, I think it's really hard to go past the fact that it's porn VN. Still, I believe this kind of praise is good. I don't think being the best of its kind or one of the best of its kind is a bad thing.

I once had a discussion with a person who said that without porn BaDIK would be a cheap college fanfiction and I replied with this.

If it still doesn't appeal to your idea of argumenting why BaDIK writing is really good, maybe someone else could do it, but aside from that post, I don't think I'm competent to create a video essay that analyses such writing.


Well, I have the feeling that if DrPinkCake delivered a new interlude starring Madame Rose in a forbidden relationship with Tybalt it would be golden for you, because everything he does is pure gold in your opinion.

:rolleyes:
I really appreciate you taking an interest in me and noticing my line of thought. Just want to correct you on two things.

First, I met here with some disregard for something I find to be really good, BaDIK writing. I don't mind people playing this game to fap. I also don't mind good discussion, I don't mind disagreeing, I also don't mind if someone shows me the other way of thinking. My issue was that most people who disagreed with me by saying the writing isn't good or special just used the argument that "it's a shallow porn game to fap your dick as hard as you can when you see your computer girlfriend or Jade; Jade works too". I think it's based on unfair bias and I like to point it out. Nothing more, nothing less. But I understand why that can be annoying to some people.

The second thing, which makes your sarcasm quite ironic, If you researched my posts, you would find how critical I am of BaDIK's writing. I love it because it's really complex, engaging, has a lot of heart and good humor. Still, not flawless. I hate the MC&Sage arc in Season 2. It's not engaging and the transition from fuck buddies to relationship is awkward. I believe stretching EP9's party made writing feel weird in places (excuse me for speaking from my mind; I'm only heading into replaying EP9 and don't remember details). And my biggest criticism, which once made me and Kpyna go into passionate discussion, is that I find the writing and character motivation flawed when compared between different branches.

Still, I really want to see that Tybalt and Madam Rose arc. Could be something interesting, given Tybalt won't have much to do after Jibalt broke up.
 

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Well, I have the feeling that if DrPinkCake delivered a new interlude starring Madame Rose in a forbidden relationship with Tybalt it would be golden for you, because everything he does is pure gold in your opinion.

:rolleyes:
A madame episode interlude style? Well, shit, sign me the fuck right up on that, son. I'm in.
 

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I mean being a dik is literal Ntr game since Fuckface is cucking all the girls.
NTR as used on this site typically refers to 3rd party character having sex with partner of MC. If it's MC having sex with partners of other people then it's considered cheating and this is the tag used for such scenarios.

That's why the tags for this game include the latter, but not the former.
 
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Yeah, I think it's really hard to go past the fact that it's porn VN. Still, I believe this kind of praise is good. I don't think being the best of its kind or one of the best of its kind is a bad thing.

I once had a discussion with a person who said that without porn BaDIK would be a cheap college fanfiction and I replied with this.

If it still doesn't appeal to your idea of argumenting why BaDIK writing is really good, maybe someone else could do it, but aside from that post, I don't think I'm competent to create a video essay that analyses such writing.
but look I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise, but it remains that the most constant argument for praising BADIK's work is disdain for other similar works. that besides being a weak argument, I also find it quite counterproductive, if AVNs are such a dunghill, no matter how much BADIk emerges the stench will always be that.

if I then have to respond to your examples I find them really unremarkable and not particularly significant about the quality of writing. let's start with the fact that they are naturally very subjective, for example that the Jill cycle is coherent and well carried out is at least a controversial opinion...

American Pie, but like it many even worse comedies, have exciting moments, we are human beings, getting excited is easy enough, you just have to push the right buttons (as for example pixar movies do, even the less successful ones)

if I imagine Badik's transposition on paper I see an unreadable work, a concentration of characters who always react at the highest intensity (Mc drops out of college because he had a fight with Troy, Josy runs away from home to go to college, Sage goes to spy on her boyfriend with binoculars, Maya knows that her father has the keys to her room but is sure she will not use them without warning first, Bella stays over at MC's getting caught by all the DIks , Zoey asks MC to drop out of school a few months before it ends and again and again)

there isn't a single story arc that told really makes sense, that's not to say that there aren't funny moments (the poop and fart jokes still make me laugh) or exciting moments. there are qualities, but they aren't enough to hold Badik up as a story on foot
 

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but look I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise, but it remains that the most constant argument for praising BADIK's work is disdain for other similar works. that besides being a weak argument, I also find it quite counterproductive, if AVNs are such a dunghill, no matter how much BADIk emerges the stench will always be that.

if I then have to respond to your examples I find them really unremarkable and not particularly significant about the quality of writing. let's start with the fact that they are naturally very subjective, for example that the Jill cycle is coherent and well carried out is at least a controversial opinion...

American Pie, but like it many even worse comedies, have exciting moments, we are human beings, getting excited is easy enough, you just have to push the right buttons (as for example pixar movies do, even the less successful ones)

if I imagine Badik's transposition on paper I see an unreadable work, a concentration of characters who always react at the highest intensity (Mc drops out of college because he had a fight with Troy, Josy runs away from home to go to college, Sage goes to spy on her boyfriend with binoculars, Maya knows that her father has the keys to her room but is sure she will not use them without warning first, Bella stays over at MC's getting caught by all the DIks , Zoey asks MC to drop out of school a few months before it ends and again and again)

there isn't a single story arc that told really makes sense, that's not to say that there aren't funny moments (the poop and fart jokes still make me laugh) or exciting moments. there are qualities, but they aren't enough to hold Badik up as a story on foot
Does anybody knows if the dev already gave an estimate of the next update release date? I think it's been a while. Also, is there anybody doing predictions table for guesses on when it may come?

Lastly, I always read your name as felice mastronzo lol. All this time. Only now I realized the philosophy behind your name Felice Ma Stronzo. Che cazzo, ma sta bene.
 
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Does anybody knows if the dev already gave an estimate of the next update release date? I think it's been a while. Also, is there anybody doing predictions table for guesses on when it may come?

Lastly, I always read your name as felice mastronzo lol. All this time. Only now I realized the philosophy behind your name Felice Ma Stronzo. Che cazzo, ma sta bene.
There was a status update day DPC isn't giving a estimate time of release yet but seeing as there 5 scenes(ATM) left so late October-November good guess December at latest.
 
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I never got the virgin obsessing, I want a Josy a enough experience to know what she doing but still has room the grow
I would have been fine if Josy was just anal virgin, meaning no dick was in her ass before. But that Maya never licked , and put a finger and a dildo in there, just shows how "bad" ( and not in the good way :LOL: ) " lesbians " they are:ROFLMAO:
 
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I think you want him to do it so you can watch this thread catch fire :). You've been on this site since 2018 you know what would happen if someone other than Fuckface suddenly bangs one of the game's girls that have scenes. DPC could release an update where the MC gets rogered by a herd of irate elephants and it'd likely create less of a shitstorm than a NTR scene would.

Feet, BDSM, interracial, lesbian, furry, femdom whatever people will not care, ignore it or CTRL through it. NTR causes people to lose their shit. There is no way he'd add the one kink that's guaranteed to set his patreon on fire. He's just not stupid enough to want that headache.
Oh no, my fictional girlfriend who doesn't exist left me because of my decisions and started a relationship with another fictional character, I'm going to write a bible to DPC about what I think about it. You realize that people who think that way are mentally ill, their opinion should not be taken into account and DPC knows that.

What I find hilarious is that many people on this forum love a good Harem. But they hate NTR. Personally I find that rather ironic and I am all there for the irony.
that's a good point.

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Why did DPC chooses "School Setting" for his second game ?

I think that the main reason is probably the higher chances to make lewd scenes, and it would fit in the story perfectly. A horny freshman with a big club fucking around like a hound dog with teachers, lesbian couple, prostitutes restaurant, strip club girls... it's not shocking or surrealist. Either people (25+ years) had memories about college debauchery nor, younger ones wanting to live that (in same time going to college)

So, it fits perfectly, because most people went to college/ high school, so they have a background related to this topic.

Imagine, the setting is about a young doctor in the hospital, or a writer working for a journal, fewer people will relate to it. (like for acting lessons)

The second point is that in college, there's the most diversified cultures, peoples and mentalities. There are stereotypes, a lot, that's why it works perfectly in BaDIK.

I am sure that in the last episodes, there will be some consequences for the previous choices and behaviors of the MC, but it won't be dramatic as AL or as the players expect it.

This game is the best porn game (yes, it's a porn game) ever, and I'm sure it will be like this forever. DPC is at his peak of creativity, motivation and hardworking. That's probably why he's taking more and more time to create animations, deep down, he knows that the internal resources are not infinite.
DPC gives the player the opportunity to play BaDIK the way the player wants. If the player wants a porn game then the player just has to give his MC a DIK affinity and fuck all he can.

The other side of the BaDIK coin is an adult game with sexual content. If the player chooses to have their MC only track a LI or JM as a throuple, then it is no longer a porn game as explicit sexual content will be severely restricted.

This is the reason why players perceive BaDIK differently. DPC serves two target groups by deciding how a player plays BaDIK. Therefore, one cannot generalize that BaDIK is a porn game.

Most players, I assume at least, will play all paths of BaDIK and thus BaDIK becomes a porn game for these players. I personally only play goal-oriented Josy and Maya. This doesn't give me the impression that BaDIK is a porn game.
 
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Why did DPC chooses "School Setting" for his second game ?

I think that the main reason is probably the higher chances to make lewd scenes, and it would fit in the story perfectly. A horny freshman with a big club fucking around like a hound dog with teachers, lesbian couple, prostitutes restaurant, strip club girls... it's not shocking or surrealist. Either people (25+ years) had memories about college debauchery nor, younger ones wanting to live that (in same time going to college)

So, it fits perfectly, because most people went to college/ high school, so they have a background related to this topic.

Imagine, the setting is about a young doctor in the hospital, or a writer working for a journal, fewer people will relate to it. (like for acting lessons)

The second point is that in college, there's the most diversified cultures, peoples and mentalities. There are stereotypes, a lot, that's why it works perfectly in BaDIK.

I am sure that in the last episodes, there will be some consequences for the previous choices and behaviors of the MC, but it won't be dramatic as AL or as the players expect it.

This game is the best porn game (yes, it's a porn game) ever, and I'm sure it will be like this forever. DPC is at his peak of creativity, motivation and hardworking. That's probably why he's taking more and more time to create animations, deep down, he knows that the internal resources are not infinite.
College (and obviously school in general) are definitely a relatable experience, but also it's a good age group for the girls (most people's firsts fucks would have been when they were around this age group or younger - but we can't get into the younger :eek:). If you consider the other powerhouse AVN in this genre (the one that's been sitting at the top of Patreon's AVN rankings for ears), it's clear it's a crowd pleaser.

But ultimately this was a genre that DPC said he enjoyed; inspired by many teen sex comedies of the past.

Oh, I totally agree on some animations being totally unnecessary (never played Josy&Maya path, recently discovered Maya's pool animation took half of EP8 production time lol) but could you elaborate on how those animations and the focus on them, which prolongs development time, indicate DPC lost the plot? Many people regarded EP9 as worse than its predecessors in terms of writing because it didn't move the story forward, something I hope will be fixed in EP10. But I don't know how it is connected to the plot.
"Lost the plot" is a phrase that means "lost focus". I'm not literally suggesting that DPC doesn't know what the plot of his own story is, but rather that he is deviating from what made his game so highly liked in the first place: It wasn't long-ass animations and never ending free roams, that's for sure.

But as far as the plot is going, it's progressing just fine, and even in episode 9 which delved into numerous broken flashback stories (even though the entire story is actually a flash back from the opening scene), the plot is still adequately evolving.

but look I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise, but it remains that the most constant argument for praising BADIK's work is disdain for other similar works. that besides being a weak argument, I also find it quite counterproductive, if AVNs are such a dunghill, no matter how much BADIk emerges the stench will always be that.

if I then have to respond to your examples I find them really unremarkable and not particularly significant about the quality of writing. let's start with the fact that they are naturally very subjective, for example that the Jill cycle is coherent and well carried out is at least a controversial opinion...

American Pie, but like it many even worse comedies, have exciting moments, we are human beings, getting excited is easy enough, you just have to push the right buttons (as for example pixar movies do, even the less successful ones)

if I imagine Badik's transposition on paper I see an unreadable work, a concentration of characters who always react at the highest intensity (Mc drops out of college because he had a fight with Troy, Josy runs away from home to go to college, Sage goes to spy on her boyfriend with binoculars, Maya knows that her father has the keys to her room but is sure she will not use them without warning first, Bella stays over at MC's getting caught by all the DIks , Zoey asks MC to drop out of school a few months before it ends and again and again)

there isn't a single story arc that told really makes sense, that's not to say that there aren't funny moments (the poop and fart jokes still make me laugh) or exciting moments. there are qualities, but they aren't enough to hold Badik up as a story on foot
I wouldn't suggest the plot is anything marvelous in this game, it's just a bunch of petty, often contrived, teenaged drama. But it's the way that it's delivered that makes it something special. The dialogue between the character is so comfortable to read; not once during any episode did I ever start to get bored and want to fast forward through the dialogue to see where the game is going.

The story direction / telling method is really a strong point for the game (kinda let down by episode 9 though - I hope the game doesn't continue doing flashback story telling anymore, where the mc relays important plot points out of sequence they way he did in episode 9). There is minimal narration and mostly the renders and dialogue steer the story. I love this method. I don't want to read verbose narration riddled with embarrassing high school quality descriptive language as utilised by most games in this genre.

But there is something interesting to note: Reading the dialogue works well, but if it was played in audio, it sounds terribly stilted. The original voice acting that was used for Bella and Jill before it was dropped just sounded garbage. Not sure if it's the dialogue or the delivery, but yeah, I think the dialogue works best when you're just left to read it.

Lastly, I always read your name as felice mastronzo lol. All this time. Only now I realized the philosophy behind your name Felice Ma Stronzo. Che cazzo, ma sta bene.
This is a very important reveal!

Oh no, my fictional girlfriend who doesn't exist left me because of my decisions and started a relationship with another fictional character, I'm going to write a bible to DPC about what I think about it. You realize that people who think that way are mentally ill, their opinion should not be taken into account and DPC knows that.
It seems that it's a huge number of players that feel this way though (or maybe it's just a vocal minority... :unsure:), but I don't think DPC handled it too badly. Apart from Jill being 100% a virgin, which was specifically part of her character development, every other character has had implied sexual experiences, but DPC doesn't rub the more sensitive people's noses in it.
 

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Oh no, my fictional girlfriend who doesn't exist left me because of my decisions and started a relationship with another fictional character, I'm going to write a bible to DPC about what I think about it. You realize that people who think that way are mentally ill, their opinion should not be taken into account and DPC knows that.
For a dev not taking it into account he’s done a bang up job avoiding content that’d cause a reaction. Not a single girl Fuckface has a scene with has a scene with another male. The closest is Heather and she’s never had a scene with Tommy. In a game where Quinn, Camila, Riona, Lily and Nicole are literally prostitutes, I mean Zoey didn't have one scene in her own interlude that didn't include him. The game goes out of it's way to dance around and avoid anything that'd get people upset. It's not a coincidence that the only women that we see outright fuck someone other than Fuckface don't have scenes with him (Elena, Arieth).

It’s the most controversial kink it causes more arguments on this site than any other and it doesn't seem to be a few people. It's not really surprising DPC or any dev would just not want to deal with the headache of pissing off so many of his players.

What I find hilarious is that many people on this forum love a good Harem. But they hate NTR. Personally I find that rather ironic and I am all there for the irony.
Typical F95. My kinks are ok, what I dislike destroys games. When I first joined I saw a guy in one thread drooling over a MC fucking their mum, on another thread they were calling foot fetish and cuckold disgusting. There's likely a scat lover on here somewhere railing against the evils of hand holding.

Where as outside the porn game audience saying you want a footjob or a threesome is going to be met with far less disgust and anger than saying you fantasise about shagging your mum.
 
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