always86

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Stop panicking about those 60 fps.

TL;DR - the animation is prepared by posing the first, last and several intermediate renders.
For 30 fps (so for 1 second of animation), on average 6 or 8 renders are enough. The rest of the frames are made by software and the DPC's task is sometimes to correct the posing in this or that render.
For 60 fps nothing changes. You still need to make the same number of renders and possibly some corrections.

When the effect is satisfactory, you render the animation in the target quality, which, as we know, is done in the background on a separate workstation.
It also doesn't take twice as long because the software needs more time the more the individual frames differ from each other. And at 60 fps they differ less because the motion is divided into more intermediate states.

We also know that animation rendering has no impact on the episode's production time because DPC himself said a few updates ago that the queue was empty because the new workstation is faster than him.

However, taking into account the possible need for more corrections, it can be assumed that the animation production time may increase by approximately 20%. But this is only one element of the entire EP preparation process.

What threatens us is the growing weakness of DPC to increase the number of animations and thus the larger size (GB) of the next EPs.

So...see you on NETFLIX for EP14
At best the 60fps animations are taking as long to render on the 4090s as the 30fps on the 3090s. So instead of prioritising production time by using the new GPUs to reduce render time, DPC decided to increase quality. The problem is that this episode, as of Friday this week, will have a longer production cycle than episode 9 and it’s weeks/ months away from release.

9 was substantially longer in development than previous episodes. 10 is increasing that. DPC has decided to settle into an annual release structure. I’m not one to argue he doesn’t release a years worth of content. I don’t think he’s milking, I just think he should have used the boost the 4090s provided to reduce dev time.
 

KaiserST

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Well, yes, but back then it was rendered by one older workstation.
The fact that this update will take the longest despite the huge hardware upgrade means those animations are taking their toll.

At best the 60fps animations are taking as long to render on the 4090s as the 30fps on the 3090s. So instead of prioritising production time by using the new GPUs to reduce render time, DPC decided to increase quality. The problem is that this episode, as of Friday this week, will have a longer production cycle than episode 9 and it’s weeks/ months away from release.

9 was substantially longer in development than previous episodes. 10 is increasing that. DPC has decided to settle into an annual release structure. I’m not one to argue he doesn’t release a years worth of content. I don’t think he’s milking, I just think he should have used the boost the 4090s provided to reduce dev time.
Exactly, also I doubt the jump in quality will be big enough to justify the extra time needed to render.

Interpolation would manage the same or very similar results and wouldnt take nearly as long.
 

HTC211

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... I doubt the jump in quality will be big enough to justify the extra time needed to render.

Interpolation would manage the same or very similar results and wouldnt take nearly as long.
I also believe that this is a DPC whim. I didn't miss anything in the animations from EP7, EP8 and EP9. However, the bus ride animation from EP9 caused me great embarrassment. Why did anyone need it? I'm more afraid of many useless animations than 60 fps.
 
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KАRАMBA

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However, the bus ride animation from EP9 caused me great embarrassment.
How can you say that ? :cautious:
This is the cultural heritage of mankind.
Centuries will pass, everything will turn to decay, but the true treasure will remain - The bus ride animation.
Descendants will find it someday.
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And they will be proud of their ancestors who were able to create something so great.
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Pax Draconis

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saying i dont agree at all would be silly as i made that point about buddy in my first post. and its buddy that tells us that vinny moves more.

but to your point, let me ask you this. if youre the investigator, your current goal is buddy. who is more likely to rat? quinn, who i think is either related to or at least has strong ties to buddy. or vinny, who is strictly a business relationship.

now factor in that lily was already buying from vinny, which means you already have leverage against vinny.
do you continue to work the vinny lead, or do you pull your informant out and have them start on the girl who is less likely to rat at all, and you have no leverage to use against?
In my playthru it was Sage I think who recognized it. Been awhile since I played through that.
It's Sage & Josy who speak up about it in class depending on who Trem's been with.
 
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