VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I see what you mean, have a thoughts on this but this will be a complete OT discussion.

Copy that!

I just hope it'll make some folks think before jumping on DPC's back (or any other creators) without at least trying to understand his position and blame him for the wrong reasons (no I'm not trying to defend him, I just try as much as possible to consider his position before moaning). At least DPC hasn't committed the ultimate sin of halting progress and start redoing earlier episodes for shits and giggles. If there's one thing that pisses me off, it's that.

To give you an idea, I know SG has FINALLY released a story update, but with all his circle jerking with redoing earlier episodes just for updated visuals, I'm not even curious about that VN anymore. It's lost all it's appeal for me. Same with Artimis and WIAB. Although I'll admit forgetting the reasons why Artimis was doing it now.

Any creator that decides to venture down that path midway of development instantly gets crossed off my list, unless this is being done to resolve a serious code issue or to expand an existing option or feature. But if it's to simply update the visuals!? They can fuck off!

 

[Takkatakka]

It's pattern recognition problems. It's not math. Obviously DPC must suck at math.

DPC is probably very much aware of that, but actual math problems likely would've been even more obnoxious.

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

And now, another “Scene that should have been there but wasn’t.”

 

[walker188]

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Seriously, DPC is an asshole. He's going to find a way to ruin your favorite Li for the sake of drama, one way or another. He has done it already, several times, both in AL an in BADIK. I don't know Maybe your favorite Li is going to die. Maybe you are going to find some nasty secret about her past that you won't like. Maybe you are going to discover she's crazy, maybe she's going to start a woke campaign of activism, maybe she's going to be even deeper into some stupid, over-the-top criminal shit that you ever though, maybe your are going to discover she's a full-time prostitute for a gang, maybe she's going to change her personality and make her a bitch, maybe he's going to make her a lesbian and you can't have her if you don't agree with sharing her with another lesbian... It's DPC personality, he can't avoid it. And probably he doesn't even do it on purpose. It's just that he just cares about "his vision". He doesn't care about what the player could think about the moral values and politic views that he shoehorns into the game, or the nasty things he does with the Lis.

He added that stupid warning because he thinks that gives him a blank cheque to do whatever he wants. It his game, he does it or himself, and And fuck the player's feelings or thoughts. It's his game and his "vision" and he graciously lets you play it if you pay. But you are not even a customer who buys the game from him and therefore can demand certain things. For example, regular updates in a decent and reasonable time, or not to be force-fed with woke shit. You just "support his work" on Patreon. You literally have no say. That's why I will never be support him and try not to get too involved with this game.

Uhhhh yeah?


But that's not called being an asshole. That's how being a creator works. Do you know how many Harry Potter fans would have (if they had the power) tried to FORCE JK Rowling to keep this character alive or that character? To make one character gay or another one a certain race or not? The brutal truth is that people who consume a product, feel like they have some ownership of said product. They feel a certain kinship to it, and this has never been more true than in a video game, because most of us identify as the MC. I remember playing Mass Effect 3 and how that game ended kicked up such a firestorm (rightly so, promises were made and broken by Bioware and the ending was clearly undercooked and overthought) because people identified so strongly with their Shepard, they couldn't bear to have such a weak ending for them.

Here on BaD its much the same. There are people here- not naming names -who are literally obsessed with fictional bits of words and Daz artwork. They feel personally affronted when those bits of code do something 'wrong'. But the thing to remember is, ultimately this isn't YOUR story. Maya is always going to be gay. Bella is always going to have a secret trauma. Raccoons are always going to rise from the dead and dress like bananas RUINING Halloween for everyone and-

I digress. The point is, this IS how art works. DPC has his quirks sure, but no one can deny he has a vision and is an artist. This is what art looks like. Its uncompromising, it offends or attracts, evokes strong feelings. The kind of paint-by-numbers, decision-by-commitee, focus group tested crap is what we're getting out of Hollywood these days and its why movies are completely forgettable now.

Moreover the kind of game you seem to be longing for, a sort of player-centric harem simulator, everything is light and fluffy and the MC solves every problem with his cock already exists. In fact its one of the most common game types on this website. DPC doesn't make that kind of game. He TOLD you he doesn't make this kind of game. You being disappointed that this isn't the game you want to play, isn't a failure on the part of the developer, its a failure on the part of the consumer. If you walked into a Hummer dealership and bought an H1, its not the dealerships problem when you come back in a month and say, 'why do i get such shitty gas mileage?'

So the real question is, why are you still here? You don't want to deal with 'woke shit'. Great. You don't like his timetable. Okay. You know how you could avoid all this horribleness? Never come back to this game or this particular section of the forum. Ever. Don't reply to my message. Don't check for updates. Don't waste any of your precious time on something so offensive to you.

But lets be honest, you won't do that. Because you have an opinion and you want the game to change. You know it won't, so you do the next best thing. You bitch to the people who ARE enjoying the game and try and drum up support for your views. You are a thief. A whiner. And not even a producer.

You aren't entitled to what you already have, much less what you want.

 

[Pax Draconis]

DPC is probably very much aware of that, but actual math problems likely would've been even more obnoxious.

That's a matter of opinion. Simple college algebra equations would be easy. He missed a ton of words on the english tests as well as exhibited inconsistency. On one test he had 'leo' (a proper noun, normally excluded from word scrambles) and then on the next test it didn't count as a word despite l-e-o being part of the word scramble.

 

[Joshy92]

Did people use to complain about Maya & Josy being in a relationship?

If so I'm kind of shocked
The throuple is my favorite storyline tbh

 

[ProxyGist]

Did people use to complain about Maya & Josy being in a relationship?

If so I'm kind of shocked
The throuple is my favorite storyline tbh

I wish Maya would dump that useless bitch Josy and she would start dating MC. Josy would leave town and that would be a good ending.

 

[Joshy92]

I wish Maya would dump that useless bitch Josy and she would start dating MC. Josy would leave town and that would be a good ending.

I disagree
I think Maya & Josy are perfect for each other
Then add the mc and its even better

I just pray there is a happy throuple ending
If not, I'll forever be disappointed

 

[ProxyGist]

I disagree
I think Maya & Josy are perfect for each other
Then add the mc and its even better

I just pray there is a happy throuple ending
If not, I'll forever be disappointed

Josy is the deadlock. Maya comes up with a plan, Maya goes to college, Maya is always under threat, and Josy just cries. She is completely useless, Maya doesn't need such a weak and pathetic girl.
Maya needs a stronger and more confident partner like MC.

 

[Joshy92]

Josy is the deadlock. Maya comes up with a plan, Maya goes to college, Maya is always under threat, and Josy just cries. She is completely useless, Maya doesn't need such a weak and pathetic girl.
Maya needs a stronger and more confident partner like MC.

I think you are being too harsh on Josy
She is a really sweet and caring person
And she certainly isn't useless

apart the girls are good
But together they are great imo

 

[Takkatakka]

I disagree
I think Maya & Josy are perfect for each other
Then add the mc and its even better

I just pray there is a happy throuple ending
If not, I'll forever be disappointed

I don't know...their relationship looks to be rather shaky at this point and I would predict that it will depend on the player's choices if they stay together or break up.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I don't know...their relationship looks to be rather shaky at this point and I would predict that it will depend on the player's choices if they stay together or break up.

Unless DPC revisits the "Burn to death" scenario.

 

[Joshy92]

I don't know...their relationship looks to be rather shaky at this point and I would predict that it will depend on the player's choices if they stay together or break up.

I'll be happily as long as we at least get the option to save it
even if it's a hard ending to get

 

[Deleted member 6628651]

Did people use to complain about Maya & Josy being in a relationship?

If so I'm kind of shocked
The throuple is my favorite storyline tbh

Josy and Maya the love triangle was great. I still had feelings for Josy the first girl I fell for. But I know I would be third wheeling so I left that.

 

[Takkatakka]

Unless DPC revisits the "Burn to death" scenario.

Then I would know someone else who might burn to death.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Then I would know someone else who might burn to death.

You'd better let DPC finish BaDIK before you strike that match pal!

 

[Takkatakka]

You'd better let DPC finish BaDIK before you strike that match pal!
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I afraid the Sun will likely have become a red giant and swallowed the Earth anyway, before he finishes the game. I mean that is only around 4 billion years or so away...

 

[The Glorious LIME]

Josy is the deadlock. Maya comes up with a plan, Maya goes to college, Maya is always under threat, and Josy just cries. She is completely useless, Maya doesn't need such a weak and pathetic girl.
Maya needs a stronger and more confident partner like MC.

I don't know...their relationship looks to be rather shaky at this point and I would predict that it will depend on the player's choices if they stay together or break up.

I started out as a Maya hater, even shitposted about her.
Since than, I played all the routes, some in different affinities.
Nowadays, I do find genuine joy in the MJ path, it has it's own brand of humor.
Likewise, I do enjoy the Jill route, since it's a very vanilla route with it's own jokes and inside jokes. Also that route does giveaway for more drama if double timing with Bella.

But, the more I played, the more I personally disliked Josy. I do jokingly call her a Pokewhore, due to being a midget compared to Sage, and well, for acting like a hoe. She goes behind Maya's back at ep9, she acts all insulted and attacks MC in the toilet. Overall, I find her to be hella toxic and nowadays I prefer Maya waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more.

But the thing is, I never hid the fact that I dislike cheaters overall. Sage kind of gets special treatment since she knew Chad was cheating on her(call it gut feeling, panties and all). So with Sage/MC, it was a revenge fuck in a way.

I think Maya deserves better.
I also hope that MJ route can be made better and really reaffirm the girls love for each other.
I'd also like the possibility if not on MJ to make them work, but REALLY work. Not the toxic shit they have now.

I am fully aware that Josy's fans are legion. And I have no issue with them.
I myself am a MJ route enjoyer.

But the more I play, the way DPC is pushing the narrative... he makes me dislike her more with each update.

Overall, all the characters are in a way good as is, but I also hope the end game is not narrowed down narrative wise. Specially MJ wise, since there is a clear push for instability, betrayal and cheating.

And the newly added Cheater Points from EP9 are a warning for things to come.
And I hope it gives real cause and effect to the game.

 

[jd8097619]

IMO, the entire fun part about Sally is the banter resulting form Fuckface being a DIK to her, even Karen joins in in ep9 If you make a chick MC and her be together it will just feel like a lesser version of already established relationships.

Maybe, but after EP9 we are deep into "maybe I was wrong about you territory" given how many times now it's come up that it seems a bit beyond "rando named character we need to fill scene".

 

[jd8097619]

You realize those are chosen by the Patreons right? Sally and KJR are the walking memes of Being a DIK, expect a KJR set to be put into the game soon^tm. The more content for them is due to the fans being "attracted to them even though they are literally written to be unlikable and with so many flaws its not even funny".

Yes, but a 20 render dedicated series seems to be excessive if it's just the result of "patreons voted for it but I'm not really that into the character". Even Nicole, who has clearly gotten DPCs attention as a character they want to develop substantially, only got an effectively 10-12 render series that was then extended to 24 with a quick colour filter over the top.