The Dick

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Did DPC use the same model for Neil and Derek? Just curious if someone knows.
Though it was a joke, since he uses Base G8M a lot, just changing the skin, it's possible it's the case with Derek and Neil. At least young Neil looks a lot like Derek so the morphs/mesh is probably Base G8M, but the skins (mats) are definitely different: the brows are different, and, while Derek's facial hair is textured (it's on the Base G8M face texture), Neil's looks like fibermash (not so sure after finding Neil's character source -- see edit below -- but the stubbles are definitely different).

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Maybe Derek is Neil from the past. Timestamps vibes here.

EDIT: almost sure this is skin (found this by myself, but someone in the art/assets thread already posted it; so, two people finding the same thing is probably a match). He probably dial more the morphs of this character as Neil gets older, but uses mostly G8M Base for younger Neil.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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Zoey is too late to revive her relationship with mc ...
In Episode 8 the players had to pick their path and except for the Others path, the mc now would automatically turn her down because he is now in a stable relationship.
For the Others path she would have to share mc with Quinn, Riona, Camila, Lily, Nicole, ... if mc would take her back as gf, he would start a Zoey path causing even more path splitting ...
Imho DPC has painted himself into a corner with the separate paths.

Zoey's story is a slowburn ... It's 3-4 weeks from Halloween (10-31) to ThanksGiving (4th thursday in NOV). Near the end of the party in Episode 10 it seems she realises what she lost and that it is to late to get back to mc and so she runs away in tears ... sad story and probably more drama will follow in the next episodes.

I would not mind if mc had an option to hang out with her, but she seems to stay at home, so there is always the train ride to mc's place and back home. Maybe she could join college and do some Art classes next semester ... however as I wrote above it would split up the game content even more.
It’s not too late for them if the player follows the Others path, and many people do this - according to statistics from Steam, the second most popular route, after Sage. DPC wouldn't add it to the script just to make it impossible. Lots of drama guaranteed, this is DPC. Even on the MGs path it will be quite possible to reunite with her, through the cheating mechanics, but I will not do this, cheating for me is only on the Jill path, because Bianca. :devilish:
Although I can’t wait to get something with Zoey as soon as possible, I understand why this drama is such a slowburn, if Zoey was thrown out to the player right away as material, then they would dislike her even more, because it would be intrusive.
 
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Krytax123

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I wouldn't say it's primarily about "fixing" her.

It's character growth. I love seeing it. I wouldn't expect a college student to be completely stuck in their ways.
Their character and world view are still growing.

She has clearly experienced trauma in her life and has trust issues. It's nice seeing her break out of that mold.

I don't believe her being "fixed" fundamentally changes her either. She shows glimpses of vulnerability with her interactions and how she glances at the MC. She has worn a cold-blooded mask for so long, that she has become it.

Still, it's just a mask created by trauma and self-preservation, and the MC is helping to peel back the layers.
I enjoy this direction. Kudos to DPC.

A character that doesn't fundamentally change is someone like Becky. She is a vain real baddie. Big ego and competitive.
She attempts to wear a pleasant mask to conceal her inner darkness. But she's so fake that her attempts are transparent.

Becky has shown no inclination to changing thus far.
Quinn is not like Becky. There is warmth underneath the cold mask and potential for positive change.
Haha, what?

I like Quinn, she's a confident bad girl with a mind of her own and her own agenda. She will allow herself to be more vulnerable but i hope she wont turn into full lovey-dovey mode ever, some chicks just dont like it and thats very fine too.

And come on, Quinn doesnt really changed so far, shes still exactly the same person with the same character, the only difference is that she has a deeper relationship with the mc and trusts him more now.

Otherwise shes still the chick who only really cares about herself (ok about tremolo too now on her route), but she couldnt give less of a fuck about anybody else. She keeps betraying her supposed friends (Sage, Riona) and uses the new hot girls as her pawns to earn money (for them too, but mostly for herself). She doesnt give a fuck about the consequences of her actions if they dont harm herself (like arieth pregnancy, the jock "fallout" or her management of the prep-party).

Thinking that Becky is more evil is just completly out of there, Becky is just a bitch with a lot of uncharming base motives and a unlikeable and petty bully character, but no way shes worse than quinn when were talking about morality. There are a few leagues between them, Becky is more like Dawe (dumb but kinda harmless) while Quinn is more like Vinny.

Its fine to like quinn and you can have a lot of fun with a girl like that (if she really likes you and isnt using you) but there is no need to idealize her into something she isnt.
 
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strangelandQQ

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Well, usually terminally ill characters are added to a game for one specific purpose.

I think what's going to happen is that the MC and friends are going to sort out the Mayas loan situation, and when they proudly tell Patrick about it and tell him to go fuck himself, he shocks them with the news of Helen's death.
 

noahsombrero

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We hear you, DPC.
Helen or Neal will die. DPC can't create dark drama without someone dying.
Or does he mean by dark drama the death of Riona?
Expendable old guys are small time drama. Hints? Quinn says she can't believe she kissed the mc, says she will probably leave. If she doesn't have enough sense to do that after the kidnapping, she is a disappointment as a bad guy. Sage says she is scramming after graduation. Bella gets fired for having sex with a student. Zoey offs herself. Lots of stuff floating around. But nothing satisfies like the death of a sympathetic relative innocent. Who is the the handiest for that? Riona.

But, you know, the HOT's sorority house could burn down. Oh so dramatic.
 

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Well, usually terminally ill characters are added to a game for one specific purpose.

I think what's going to happen is that the MC and friends are going to sort out the Mayas loan situation, and when they proudly tell Patrick about it and tell him to go fuck himself, he shocks them with the news of Helen's death.
Yeah i think the whole stuff about getting maya's loan papers wont matter at all (other than getting closer to maya an derek and mc being dependable) but not about the outcome.

Stuff like patrick retaliating is imo completly out of the picture for the story, Helen will die, very soon imo.

And after she died Patrick will read her letter, realise how badly he treated his childrend and how misguided he was all the time. He will probably have a huge mental breakdown and afterwards maya's loan stuff will be done, he will just pay for her or at least "release" the shackles.

And even tho most people think patrick is a pure villain, Maya and Derek still long for his love and will maybe take care of him for a bit. Even tho he did all this cruel stuff, neither of them seems to want him out of their life entirely.
 
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