VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Better Cock Spock]

On a side note, I'd like to say that I'm enjoying all of this discussion. These aren't the most fun subjects to talk about, but being able to have genuine talks here is something to appreciate.

 

[Darkwen]

Episode 11 might make or break Josy's character, with how she acts off the throuple path. It's starting to reach critical mass, and something's gotta give.

I think Josy off path gives insight to how Josy thinks on path "You better fucking believe its you I wanted" thats really how she feels on path too it not like they two different Josy's. I feel like Josy and Maya are going to break up within the next two eps and then mc goes solo with one them or even though they broke up he dates both girls until he has to pick

 

[Edhelharn]

I will even say that Maya copes with a breakup better than anyone else, with full dignity. Sage and Isabella also cope well. It was hard for Jill, but damn, even Jill could do it! Jill! But for the full picture, I would like to see what Josy will be like in Episode 11 on this route. Can she make peace with MC? We'll see.

Sage and Isabella had no reasons to behave otherwise. Sage and MC were just "fuck buddies"/friends, sha makes very clear that she is still getting over her break up. She could have, as I metioned before, be somewhat mad only if MC picks Jill, that would have been a nice touch.
Isabella is much more mature and also MC teacher now, honestly I don't even know how she is a LI in this game, to me, in my playthroughs, she has always been a side chick.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Well, we kind of saw Quinn manipulating Cammy the same way, it was just easier since she s a natural born slut, Mona was likely the same, until she had to do "older guys".sara and mel, also natural born sluts, they however likely not required any manipulation.and Rio, well Rio has very low self respect, if she step out her line Quinn just slap her, and she obey again. its seems only sara and mel were the one who has the most freedom, they like doing it by their own now, after all the Restaurant plot is likely over anyway. It mostly existed for Maya's tuition storyline.

But they are 2 profoundly different situations.

Camilla, Riona like what Quinn makes them do, then in the future they may regret it, but basically they can only take it on themselves.

in this situation Mona can safely leave the BR, if she was forced to do anything, I really don't think they would have let her go so peacefully, the risk would have become huge.

probably the story is made confusing by DPC's usual fear of agitating his Patreons, because it was clear that MC had to warn Maya precisely to avert the danger of her being "manipulated" by Quinn, but if this danger had become more directly apparent there would have been rivers of tears.

I don't think the role of the restaurant has been exhausted.

 

[RK - Milf]

Episode 11 - Preview #9: Isabella (NSFW)

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Ooooo yeah mi amor Bella

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I think Josy off path gives insight to how Josy thinks on path "You better fucking believe its you I wanted" thats really how she feels on path too it not like they two different Josy's. I feel like Josy and Maya are going to break up within the next two eps and then mc goes solo with one them or even though they broke up he dates both girls until he has to pick

It's more about how Josy conducts herself. Not when you dump her, she's understandably hurt and angry there. But the attempted seduction when you're dating someone else, it just shows how far she's unfortunately fallen. And now that I think about it, Maya does something similar, but more subtle. Or rather, less blunt and obvious. She teases MC about his love for thigh-high socks, saying that she thought about him when putting them on, and if you're on her path that is exactly why she wears them. She even encourages him to feel it. Then there's the sexy whispering (peanut butter sandwich) that she explicitly said turns her on.

Both instances have the girls wear the same outfit no matter what, which makes me wonder if it was laziness on DPC's part to not bother rendering different clothes for different paths, kinda like if Josy wears your sweater or not, and wrote the scenes like this to justify the tempting clothes regardless of choice.

 

[The Glorious LIME]

Still the same old convos and points about MJ I see.

"MJ is doomed without MC", "X likes MC better", "Y Loves MC more honestly", "My pixel waifu is this, your pixel waifu is that"...

After all this time, can't you just all make peace and cum swap like Joshy and move on to other subjects

 

[Darkwen]

It's more about how Josy conducts herself. Not when you dump her, she's understandably hurt and angry there. But the attempted seduction when you're dating someone else, it just shows how far she's unfortunately fallen. And now that I think about it, Maya does something similar, but more subtle. Or rather, less blunt and obvious. She teases MC about his love for thigh-high socks, saying that she thought about him when putting them on, and if you're on her path that is exactly why she wears them. She even encourages him to feel it. Then there's the sexy whispering (peanut butter sandwich) that she explicitly said turns her on.

Both instances have the girls wear the same outfit no matter what, which makes me wonder if it was laziness on DPC's part to not bother rendering different clothes for different paths, kinda like if Josy wears your sweater or not, and wrote the scenes like this to justify the tempting clothes regardless of choice.

The sweater makes sense because it show progress with Josy, but in the case in ep10 I think DPC knew what he was doing Josy even questions herself. While do think had MC kiss Josy they would had fuck just like on path but it never got there where as Maya does let you tough her and whisper sexy stuff personally I think what Maya did is worse

 

[Darkwen]

Still the same old convos and points about MJ I see.

"MJ is doomed without MC", "X likes MC better", "Y Loves MC more honestly", "My pixel waifu is this, your pixel waifu is that"...

After all this time, can't you just all make peace and cum swap like Joshy and move on to other subjects

Some things don't change

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Sage and Isabella had no reasons to behave otherwise. Sage and MC were just "fuck buddies"/friends, sha makes very clear that she is still getting over her break up. She could have, as I metioned before, be somewhat mad only if MC picks Jill, that would have been a nice touch.
Isabella is much more mature and also MC teacher now, honestly I don't even know how she is a LI in this game, to me, in my playthroughs, she has always been a side chick.

We can see Sage's true thoughts if M/J was rejected, including Sage. It's unpleasant for her, but she can deal with it. It's funny, but it's turning into the Girls Who Got Dumped by Tremolo club.

Dumping Isabella was the hardest thing for me emotionally. That's PinkCake's master class on how to show pain without any words.

she has always been a side chick.

What a blasphemy you posting, sir.

 

[Edhelharn]

What a blasphemy you posting, sir.

Yeah, I can see this backfiring to me.

 

[Kabal_FX16]

Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill ... It's don't matter. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But this game still have some mistery. Maiden name of his mother? Why she with friends at Jill house on photo? Jill told that her parents buy this house from friends. One of the friend on photo look like Jill redhead friend? And lot of other things.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Yeah, I can see this backfiring to me.

Never mind really, to each his own.
I find Isabella to be one of the most interesting LIs, after Sage, Zoey, Rio and Quinn. On the one hand, the relationship with her seems to be more adult, on the other , she herself doesn't mind return to teenage tomfoolery and feeling young again. I love her sense of humor, the way she constantly poots MCs legs, plus the mystery and dark vibes of her storyline is an attractive factor.

 

[Edhelharn]

The relationship between MС and Bella is one of a mother and son, which is quite Freudian. MC lost his mother at a young age and has never seen her, so he compensates by finding a woman to fill the role of mother in his life. Bella, like Jill, behaves in a patronizing manner towards MС. While I am not a fan of this type of dynamic, DrPinkCake does a good job of portraying different types of relationships between men and women.

You just ruined Jill. Dammit!

Jokes aside, I don't see this freudian relationship with her, MC is teaching her about dating, sex. Apparently she is learning more about her sister too. They're both discovering together about being in a relationship. Jill only has more money and a more refined taste. I mean, ok, she reported Chad to protect MC, but not because she cares in a motherly way, but because she's a nerd/teacher's pet/prude/naive (I wish I knew a slang term for that - not my main language) and doesn't understand that if she had given MC a bj would have made him feel way better.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The relationship between MС and Bella is one of a mother and son, which is quite Freudian. MC lost his mother at a young age and has never seen her, so he compensates by finding a woman to fill the role of mother in his life. Bella, like Jill, behaves in a patronizing manner towards MС. While I am not a fan of this type of dynamic, DrPinkCake does a good job of portraying different types of relationships between men and women.

Jill has often acted like a mother, Bella I don't think so, except right after he escapes from Maya and Josy if we decide to go to her. She is very tsundere but does not have almost ever such pronounced protective attitudes. Even Sage sometimes has a more maternal attitude than Bella.

Just her age alone makes people talk about a mother and son relationship, which then in the case of mc, who has never had a mother , I don't know how much sense it makes

 

[Joshy92]

Im glad that people finally agree with me that this game needs NTR and mmf thressomes. Really it would make it much better. Not being able to share Sage with Jacob is what keeps being a dik from being a 10/10

Arieth & Jacob while I hold her hand? Yes please!!!

If only Arieth was my wife.

 

[DarkKiller]

Episode 11 - Preview #9: Isabella (NSFW)

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That one picture that keeps getting posted of the 5 LIs before they head out to Derek/Maya's home always looks like a bad ad for the game to me, but mostly that's Bella's fault!

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

I didn't mean anything about Jill. It's more like a Freudian thing between Bella and MС. But that doesn't mean Jill can't be dominant in their relationship, she just does it indirectly, by showing off her position and how superior she is to MС. I don't think it's intentional on DrPinkCake"s part, but it sure seems like it. She takes him around in her fancy car, pays for everything when they go out, invites him to her place for expensive dinner with all her rich friends. And here's the kicker. When she finds out her boyfriend is seeing someone else, she dumps him like he's a bad investment. She had this whole idea in her head about him and when he didn't live up to her expectations, she just broke up with him. And he didn't even try to argue or convince her he was different. To her, he was just some sweet poor guy she'd made up in her mind. I guess you could say Jill's story is about unmet expectations.

That's why she's so bummed out when you tell her that you won't be going on the date with her and that you'll instead be taking care of Sage. She thinks that she's the one who dictates the terms and expects that the MC will play along.

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

In fact, Jill's actions are very "male". I don't think a real-life woman could do what she did. It's like the writer imagined what he himself would do if he were in her position. When a guy writes about female characters, they often use male thinking to describe them.

To me, the way Jill is written is frustrating to say the least. Sometimes a naive innocent sweet girl, sometimes a very selfish person and at times just a hypocritical tropey character. Most of the other girls in the game are only frustrating at times because of MC's lack of ability to show initiative when it comes to women. If her character was more consistent, she'd be better but a lot of the time she's backsliding with her naivety. I really don't get how she can be said to have been bullied yet she can't see through something as simple as Tybalt manipulating her. Look at the way she was acting in that scene where Bella was cutting the grass in her backyard, like a helpless incompetent moron and yet she was still trying to assert her beliefs to Bella about how she wouldn't be the type of person to not be nice to someone in order to get rid of them and that that's not how she was raised. Honestly, these are the reasons I personally could not get myself to like her.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Bella and MС have a different view on their relationship. Bella barely treats MС like a son, but when she's with him, she feels younger and can show off her experience. If you've ever been in a relationship with someone 10 years younger, you know what I mean. You can't help feeling like the boss, but MС clearly sees Bella as the mom she never had.

that's precisely why it doesn't feel like a motherly relationship to me: Bella is the one who "comes down" to MC's level, who challenges him to strip pong, who goes to the Halloween party on the sly to be like him.

she doesn't do like Sage explaining to him what to do or why, or like Jill who MUST do what she thinks is right

despite the difference in experience, and age, it is a fairly equal relationship