L1m1tl3ss

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I didn't mean anything about Jill. It's more like a Freudian thing between Bella and MС. But that doesn't mean Jill can't be dominant in their relationship, she just does it indirectly, by showing off her position and how superior she is to MС. I don't think it's intentional on DrPinkCake"s part, but it sure seems like it. She takes him around in her fancy car, pays for everything when they go out, invites him to her place for expensive dinner with all her rich friends. And here's the kicker. When she finds out her boyfriend is seeing someone else, she dumps him like he's a bad investment. She had this whole idea in her head about him and when he didn't live up to her expectations, she just broke up with him. And he didn't even try to argue or convince her he was different. To her, he was just some sweet poor guy she'd made up in her mind. I guess you could say Jill's story is about unmet expectations.
That's why she's so bummed out when you tell her that you won't be going on the date with her and that you'll instead be taking care of Sage. She thinks that she's the one who dictates the terms and expects that the MC will play along.
 

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In fact, Jill's actions are very "male". I don't think a real-life woman could do what she did. It's like the writer imagined what he himself would do if he were in her position. When a guy writes about female characters, they often use male thinking to describe them.
To me, the way Jill is written is frustrating to say the least. Sometimes a naive innocent sweet girl, sometimes a very selfish person and at times just a hypocritical tropey character. Most of the other girls in the game are only frustrating at times because of MC's lack of ability to show initiative when it comes to women. If her character was more consistent, she'd be better but a lot of the time she's backsliding with her naivety. I really don't get how she can be said to have been bullied yet she can't see through something as simple as Tybalt manipulating her. Look at the way she was acting in that scene where Bella was cutting the grass in her backyard, like a helpless incompetent moron and yet she was still trying to assert her beliefs to Bella about how she wouldn't be the type of person to not be nice to someone in order to get rid of them and that that's not how she was raised. Honestly, these are the reasons I personally could not get myself to like her.
 
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felicemastronzo

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Bella and MС have a different view on their relationship. Bella barely treats MС like a son, but when she's with him, she feels younger and can show off her experience. If you've ever been in a relationship with someone 10 years younger, you know what I mean. You can't help feeling like the boss, but MС clearly sees Bella as the mom she never had.
that's precisely why it doesn't feel like a motherly relationship to me: Bella is the one who "comes down" to MC's level, who challenges him to strip pong, who goes to the Halloween party on the sly to be like him.

she doesn't do like Sage explaining to him what to do or why, or like Jill who MUST do what she thinks is right

despite the difference in experience, and age, it is a fairly equal relationship
 
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Bella and MС have a different view on their relationship. Bella barely treats MС like a son, but when she's with him, she feels younger and can show off her experience. If you've ever been in a relationship with someone 10 years younger, you know what I mean. You can't help feeling like the boss, but MС clearly sees Bella as the mom she never had.
While there definitely are a few moments with a parental vibe, there is no definite indication how the MC feels about them. If the vibe were stronger and the moments more frequent, I could see Bella and MC forming a mother/son they never had kind of relationship when they've known each other longer and the romantic path is avoided. Now the moments could just be something MC looks back on and wonders if his mother would have done something like that while not considering Bella as the mom he never had. I have a mental image of a scene where MC can't decide if he is grateful to know what he missed out on or if he was happier being ignorant. Right up DPC's alley.
 

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I didn't mean anything about Jill. It's more like a Freudian thing between Bella and MС. But that doesn't mean Jill can't be dominant in their relationship, she just does it indirectly, by showing off her position and how superior she is to MС. I don't think it's intentional on DrPinkCake"s part, but it sure seems like it. She takes him around in her fancy car, pays for everything when they go out, invites him to her place for expensive dinner with all her rich friends. And here's the kicker. When she finds out her boyfriend is seeing someone else, she dumps him like he's a bad investment. She had this whole idea in her head about him and when he didn't live up to her expectations, she just broke up with him. And he didn't even try to argue or convince her he was different. To her, he was just some sweet poor guy she'd made up in her mind. I guess you could say Jill's story is about unmet expectations.
Is Jill supposed to never ever pay for anything, or offer to drive when he doesn't have a car, or not have him spend time with her friends? All because the MC is poor, she is rich, and it might embarrass him, or emasculate him? He isn't Walter White, who did feel exactly this when dating Gretchen and broke up with her like the bitch he is. Jill isn't trying to assert dominance or do some power moves, she wants to spend time with MC and is just being herself. Would it be better if they took the bus to McDonald's to meet up with Bianca and Carly, and MC pays for everything after pulling a double shift with the seniors?
 

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I agree with Felice and Roger, Bella is not viewed as a maternal figure by MC, and Bella does not treat him like a son. That's what some people incorrectly perceive based purely on the age gap, and I would say some old-fashioned views regarding women. "As the older woman, Bella naturally acts maternally" is what I'm hearing from some of this.

Besides, we all know Jade is our mommy :HideThePain:
 

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Lol as if Darkwen is a bigger simp than me. I'm willing to eat Jacob's cum out of Arieth's vagina is he willing to do that to Josy?
That doesn't make you a bigger simp: crazier yes, a cuck yess but a bigger simp not even close
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
The battle rages on!

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I even re-instated Joshy's signature, and I'll keep both until we have a winner.
 

DavDR

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I'm not so sure about that. The 2 moments when Quinn confirms the scholarship rumor to Maya and when Maya seeks help from Sage are very close, while the chat between Quinn and Riona in which Quinn still appears interested in Maya is later. But how can anyone think that Maya is a good addition to the restaurant? The girls are all volunteers, so why force another to do it? There are plenty of girls at the br who would gladly do it...
All of the girls are not exactly volunteers. We see very early in the game Quinn luring Camila into prostitution when the MC spys on them during the panty raid.

IRL the most responsive targets for pimps are people with low self esteem/lack of confidence
 
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DavDR

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One more thing. Maya already lives in hell. Slowly dying mother, bedridden. Father turned into a broken man and a domestic tyrant. A breakup with a guy is still a bad event in life, but less significant than everything that Maya went through. You can look at it this way.
Take that line of thought one step further. Abuse is usually based in a need to control, as we clearly see in the relationship between Patrick and Maya. There is also the 'vicious circle' aspect where those who have been abused tend to become abusive when they loose control of their own relationships.
 

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We can see Sage's true thoughts if M/J was rejected, including Sage. It's unpleasant for her, but she can deal with it. It's funny, but it's turning into the Girls Who Got Dumped by Tremolo club. :KEK:

Dumping Isabella was the hardest thing for me emotionally. That's PinkCake's master class on how to show pain without any words.
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What a blasphemy you posting, sir. :confused:
poor Balla, she deserve some good joke and hug

we need more beer pong
 
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