ChipLecsap

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Care to back up that claim? To me it reads that she just wants to know who the bitch is before she breaks up with him. Effectively the relationship is over. Sage just isn't ready to let go. It would be healthy to do that or at least acknowledge that the relationship is over, but she has every right to be mad.

Chad just pulls the "breaking up with them before they break up with you" move, like the coward he is.

Sage's cheating is just a technicality.
Sure. Remember that Chad ask Sage to help him get back to the Alphas, That was way after she had the evidence of him cheating. and the fucking guy Fucked up because he kissed her Forehead.

but overall, there was never an indication from Sage that She wants to break up with him. This whole "she wanted to find out who is the bitch so she could break up with him after ", is a very thin washing atempt of her behaviour.

She is cheating she constantly cheating it's a Revenge cheating to get back at chad. and the only time in the entire game when get inside of Sage head, inner monologue , and its confirm it.

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ChipLecsap

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Oh another thing . If you not enter the Fuck-buddies relationship with her in episode 2. By Episode 5, She does an another attempt, and you can start there, and up until that point she is still with Chad :whistle:.
She has no intention to end her relationship with chad. likely she has intention to scrapes out the other girl eyes. " Stay away from my boyfriend you skank " - or the usual girl fight thing :ROFLMAO:
 
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On the subject of cheating. To my mind in relationships the unofficial matters a great deal. Marriage is a legal contract and in a divorce things like evidence matter and should, but morally speaking it is not wrong to sleep with someone else when your spouse's actions have already broken the relationship beyond repair. At that point "cheating" is a mere technicality. In the courtroom those technicalities matter, but morality focuses on the spirit of the agreement not the letter. Most relationships in BADIK are of course not marriages, but if you think of them as verbal agreements the moral consideration is pretty much seamless. Breaking the agreement has no legal consequences, but morally the cheating is just as meaningful.

How does this apply to BADIK characters? Let's start with Bella. She has had no contact with her husband in three years and has reason to believe that he is dead. Her actions with the MC being adultery is a technicality. It's debatable if it should even be considered that since if James is alive he has effectively abandoned her. Bella herself feels guilty about it, because she has not fully moved on emotionally, but objectively there is nothing wrong with her actions. At least nothing wrong where James is concerned. Jill on the other hand has some cause to complain. As does anyone else who was led on by MC.

Jade on the other hand is definitely still married to Stephen. Those actions are adultery. It just so happens that Stephen's multiple adulteries across the years reduce Jade's to a legal technicality. Jade definitely isn't innocent in their marriage falling apart, but we don't at this point know how things were before Stephen strayed for the first time. Jade may have been an incredibly bad spouse in other ways. But even if she was, Stephen still let the marriage keep going. If he wanted to keep his morality intact, he should have divorced Jade much sooner. Likewise Jade should have started the divorce process herself. Rather than moving on she uses MC as a means for revenge. She is not good, just better than Stephen.

Sage is also technically in a relationship, if you play the fuck-buddy variant. If you friend-zone her until episode 7, it's not even technically cheating. But even with the fuck-buddy route she doesn't go beyond kissing MC without first getting proof of Chad's cheating. She should have broken up with Chad herself instead of trying to find out who his partner was, but even so all the blame falls onto Chad. The fact that the relationship was a lie to start with makes Sage's "cheating" even less meaningful.

Maya and Josy cheat on each other. Neither knows about the other so it can't be called revenge. They try to make their relationship work anyway, but they both did cheat. However, unlike Jade, Stephen and Chad, their actions are very limited and very much fuelled by circumstance. Neither of them makes it a habit and they regret the little that does happen. The wrongs are forgivable, but their innocence does get a stain. It's not just a mere technicality the way it is with Sage and Bella.

And now the couple who got us onto the subject (this time anyway). Tommy and Heather are in an open relationship. However they do agree on rules. The rules are different from the conventional "no sleeping with other people", but breaking them is still cheating. Heather only cheats on Halloween. She is drunk, very angry, regrets it immediately and later breaks up with Tommy. Not a habit. Tommy? Very much a habit. And he definitely understands that he is cheating open relationship or not. Otherwise he would just tell Heather instead of telling the DIKs not to tell Heather. He could try calling it asking for forgiveness instead of asking for permission, but he tries so hard to avoid letting Heather know at all that it's just straight up cheating. It is also clear that he is simply aware of Heather's temper and wants to avoid the consequences of her finding out. He has no remorse over the deeds themselves.

Lastly there is MC himself. Weirdly enough with him the argument is the other way around. He can fuck around a LOT and technically it isn't cheating. He doesn't even have the verbal agreement level of a relationship with anyone so what he does isn't cheating. Technically. Morally it's still pretty bad, but there are some considerations. He does try to have something more meaningful with at least the main girls, but they all push him to arm's length one way or another. Bella insists that she is a married woman and Sage says they're just fuck-buddies. They change their minds later and so it becomes a matter of when he did it. Threesome with Mona and Camila? That was Hell Week. It's okay. Threesome with Riona and Camila? Not okay. Jill on the other hand gives a lot of signs of wanting a long term relationship. The obstacle is even a consequence of MC's own actions. It's not okay to fuck others just because she isn't ready. Josy and Maya? Well Maya did say no strings attached and Josy didn't voice her disagreement, but is it really okay? Well he isn't actually cheating. Technically.

And on the subject of Tommy being an asshole. It's a matter of default behaviour. Derek is an asshole in Gender Studies, but that is not his default, so he is not an asshole. The "feminist" girls in that class however are definitely assholes. If you treat half the people of the world like shit just because they have penises, you're an asshole. Most of what Tommy does is pretty minor, but his default behaviour with strangers is to be an asshole. The people he is somewhat decent with are the exception, not the rule. He can be quite likeable when you get to know him and show him what lines he shouldn't cross, but he is still an asshole. He is way better than Dawe, but he is an asshole. And if you make certain choices the MC is being an asshole too. And you were an asshole for making him do that. And by "you" I mean "me" in some of my runs.
Good text. But here's one thing. Why is a threesome with Riona and Camila is not okay, if at that time MC is not yet in a relationship? I can understand that interactions with other girls after Ep 8 if you're on the route are a big no-no, like a blowjob from Heather or a kiss from Riona, but before that it's not that significant.
 
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Good text. But here's one thing. Why is a threesome with Riona and Camila is not okay, if at that time MC is not yet in a relationship? I can understand that interactions with other girls after Ep 8 if you're on the route are a big no-no, like a blowjob from Heather or a kiss from Riona, but before that it's not that significant.
Because Jill doesn't like it! :mad::mad::mad:
 

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Your confusing forgiving with enabling.
Alright, admittedly from a strict definition, I was misusing "forgiveness" when I probably meant "reconciliation". Applying a stricter definition, forgiveness is usually a good thing if for no other reason than letting go of anger and resentment is good for the mental health of the victim. But just because you forgive someone doesn't mean you have to reconcile with them or think they aren't immoral.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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Because Jill doesn't like it! :mad::mad::mad:
Well, saying to Jill in Ep.7 "I want to be only with you" and then bang other chicks/Dating everyone the same time is a really rotten cunt move, but it's very optional and depends. You can just follow the Others branch and fuck everything that moves, ignoring Jill route and from that perspective you did nothing wrong.

Ofc I have that route where I confess in love with Jill and then dumped her. The best demons and the hottest pots are waiting for me.
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Well, saying to Jill in Ep.7 "I want to be only with you" and then bang other chicks/Dating everyone the same time is a really rotten cunt move, but it's very optional and depends. You can just follow the Others branch and fuck everything that moves, ignoring Jill route and from that perspective you did nothing wrong.

Ofc I have that route where I confess in love with Jill and then dumped her. The best demons and the hottest pots are waiting for me.
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well how about the route where you stay with jill and fuck her best friend bianca. :KEK:
 
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Good text. But here's one thing. Why is a threesome with Riona and Camila is not okay, if at that time MC is not yet in a relationship? I can understand that interactions with other girls after Ep 8 if you're on the route are a big no-no, like a blowjob from Heather or a kiss from Riona, but before that it's not that significant.
Riona and Camila threesome is episode 7. It's just before making things serious. It's true that the big choice is episode 8 and anything before that is technically not cheating, but the tones of the relationships with Bella and Sage are already shifting to more serious. No promise has yet been made so it's not cheating, but if they found out about it, it wouldn't be unreasonable for them to be mad about it. Although it does depend on the exact time line and I haven't pinpointed the season 2 time skips properly. How many weeks before the episode 8 choice and the HOT's party? The more time, the less significance. Or maybe it really wouldn't be that significant even if it were just the day before and I'm just a prude about it.
 

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Sure. Remember that Chad ask Sage to help him get back to the Alphas, That was way after she had the evidence of him cheating. and the fucking guy Fucked up because he kissed her Forehead.

but overall, there was never an indication from Sage that She wants to break up with him. This whole "she wanted to find out who is the bitch so she could break up with him after ", is a very thin washing atempt of her behaviour.

She is cheating she constantly cheating it's a Revenge cheating to get back at chad. and the only time in the entire game when get inside of Sage head, inner monologue , and its confirm it.

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I guess we just read the implications of that differently. But like always, I do appreciate it when people present evidence.
 

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Now, I totally disagree with that. Saying your sorry does matter, just like forgiveness matters. In a way, my whole country (the US) was built on the idea of a second chance. That's why I so hate this modern culture of cancelled for ever. I think that's an evil concept.

Saying sorry matters in the context of why they are saying sorry. Most cheaters only say they are sorry after they are caught. They aren't sorry while it's still hidden or while having the "affair", so are they truly sorry about what they did or only sorry because they got caught? Most of the time it's the latter since they really don't care about the other person's feelings to begin with or they wouldn't be cheating in the first place now would they?
 

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okay, there were Sage, Chad, Maya, Jojo. Jill dont have relationship
what about with Balla? is that cheating? missing husband for years. in many episode she wear the ring as she still belong to him. but maybe he is dead -> she is a widow
 
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