VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Rehwyn]

Immature, impulsive, daring, but in many ways more fun decisions. The DIK character is simply more fun to play. Even the dialogue is different and positions Tremolo as a more decisive and assertive guy. I would compare DIK and Chick to Dean and Sam Winchester or Tony Stark/Steve Rogers. Both are positive characters, but they have different personalities.

And here the main thing is to learn to understand which DIK solutions are safe and just for fun, and which ones can be a problem, I agree. In my "golden canon" run with Sage, in addition to the above, I avoid Quinn's restaurant and choose a nursing home. But I always fight with alphas, Tommy gets paid for being an asshole, smoke weed with Quinn, get revenge on a nerd (paybacks are fun), go full party in Pink Rose, that is, get the maximum college experience without serious consequences. I also try to avoid mushrooms on LIs routes, leaving them for Others.
I see that crises with LIs will depend not on the MCs affinity points, but on the mines that DPC has laid for each route. Jade drama with Sage, imbalance of attention in Throuple, where you devote more time to one of the girls or even provoke to ignore the other partner, hinting at Maya or Josy to go solo. Create a Jill/Bella love triangle, as well as the most fresh innovation - cheating points if your MC can't keep his dick in his pants. And we also have Zoey. Overall, it looks like it'll be fun.

Generally agree with this as well. My first playthrough I went with a mix of DIK and CHICK major choices as well, but I've also made some with almost (if not entirely) full CHICK Major decisions.

For the anticipated relationship crises, I agree there will be other factors like those you mentioned as well. It wouldn't surprise me if it's a combo of both major affinity choices and other "mines" that affect outcomes though.

It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the DIK major choices that don't yet have consequences end up having them in the future. For example, if you smoke weed and have sex with Quinn, there's currently no consequences on the MJ throuple, but if they ever learned of that, I could easily see Maya in particular being very unhappy with you (especially if you had warned her to stay away from Quinn and then go fuck her). It also won't surprise me if something happens in the future where you need to at least temporarily ally with the alphas for a positive resolution, and that might become harder or impossible if you've fought them at every opportunity. Same with the preps and nerds. Remember how many episodes it took before we learned the consequences of even just getting a handjob from Jade?

Long story short, I fully expect some of the major decisions in more recent episodes not to explode in our face for a while, even if they seem "safe" for now.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Generally agree with this as well. My first playthrough I went with a mix of DIK and CHICK major choices as well, but I've also made some with almost (if not entirely) full CHICK Major decisions.

For the anticipated relationship crises, I agree there will be other factors like those you mentioned as well. It wouldn't surprise me if it's a combo of both major affinity choices and other "mines" that affect outcomes though.

It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the DIK major choices that don't yet have consequences end up having them in the future. For example, if you smoke weed and have sex with Quinn, there's currently no consequences on the MJ throuple, but if they ever learned of that, I could easily see Maya in particular being very unhappy with you (especially if you had warned her to stay away from Quinn and then go fuck her). It also won't surprise me if something happens in the future where you need to at least temporarily ally with the alphas for a positive resolution, and that might become harder or impossible if you've fought them at every opportunity. Same with the preps. Remember how many episodes it took before we learned the consequences of even just getting a handjob from Jade?

Long story short, I fully expect some of the major decisions in more recent episodes not to explode in our face for a while, even if they seem "safe" for now.

I remember Acting Lessons, the consequences came in Endgame, think so that in BaDIK the main storm is also reserved for Season 4.
But waiting for Jade drama in Ep.11, in one runs on mine Stephen will take 90% of the goods in divorce case thanks to MC.

 

[Ricthequick]

It was weird for me too. This "fixed point in time" is not what I expected. I expected DIK to be more confident. But of course, you can come up with an excuse that “For MC she is a very important person (that’s right, the most important after his father) and he couldn't contain his emotions, that all his DIK-insolence as a facade disappeared at this moment and we can all get our weak ones moments, even the coolest of us"
This is understandable. DPC wanted to show Tremolo's emotional closeness to Zoey, as he didn't do much of that in Interlude, spending most of his screen time on the California tattoo parlor junkies instead of focusing on Zoey/MC relationship.
But I would have preferred the variability in this moment, which many others have, but that's just me.

Yep totally, not saying it doesn't work, it actually works for most of the paths, it beocmes a bit weird when you went down on every single LI, Quinn's restaurant, MILF professor and so on...

Me being me, in every single run I gave her the cold shoulder (as much as possible) and then told Jacob NOT to proceed with her, you know... just to mess her up a bit.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Yep totally, not saying it doesn't work, it actually works for most of the paths, it beocmes a bit weird when you went down on every single LI, Quinn's restaurant, MILF professor and so on...

Me being me, in every single run I gave her the cold shoulder (as much as possible) and then told Jacob NOT to proceed with her, you know... just to mess her up a bit.

That's cruel, and you have the balls to tell that to a dude with Zoey profile pic, but...you do you, it's your game and your choices.
All I can say it's recommend to try the other run with different choices towards her, after all game worth it.
And I don't mind her to find her happiness with someone if I already chosen my path, just not with Jacob. He just wanna do another body count.

 

[Ricthequick]

That's cruel, and you have the balls to tell that to a dude with Zoey profile pic, but...you do you, it's your game and your choices.
All I can say it's recommend to try the other run with different choices towards her, after all game worth it.

I'll eventually try a bit of everything, but also depending on how it develops the only way I can see it being "consistent" in my very personal head canon is that IF the MC really feels so strong... he'd be avoiding everyone until that point.

Also any idea if the prelude choices actually affect her in any capacity? And I mean in her behaviour more than in possibly open new scenes.

As for her finding her own happiness, sure, but not in "my" face... like she becomes BBF with all the girls and starts hanging out with Tommy/Derek/Quinn/Whoever.

I already wrote it some pages ago, IF she really scarred the MC so badly... he should do everything to stay away from her, what happens once, usually happens again.

 

[Rehwyn]

I'll eventually try a bit of everything, but also depending on how it develops the only way I can see it being "consistent" in my very personal head canon is that IF the MC really feels so strong... he'd be avoiding everyone until that point.

Also any idea if the prelude choices actually affect her in any capacity? And I mean in her behaviour more than in possibly open new scenes.

Zoey essentially has a DIK or CHICK affinity based on your interlude choices and it affects her personality and dialogue, from what I understand.

 

[Ricthequick]

Zoey essentially has a DIK or CHICK affinity based on your interlude choices and it affects her personality and dialogue, from what I understand.

That was also my understanding, but I didn't notice too many differences (if any), it might come into play later on mind you...

 

[Rehwyn]

That's cruel, and you have the balls to tell that to a dude with Zoey profile pic, but...you do you, it's your game and your choices.
All I can say it's recommend to try the other run with different choices towards her, after all game worth it.
And I don't mind her to find her happiness with someone if I already chosen my path, just not with Jacob. He just wanna do another body count.

I actually gave Jacob my blessing in my CHICK MJ throuple run. In that one, MC is very happily committed to the throuple and while thrown for a bit of a loop by Zoey's return has decidedly moved on. In my head canon, MC sees Jacob as a pretty chill guy and can tell he's vibing with her with their shared art passion, so why not? Zoey's her own person.

P.S. Zoey turns him down anyways.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I'll eventually try a bit of everything, but also depending on how it develops the only way I can see it being "consistent" in my very personal head canon is that IF the MC really feels so strong... he'd be avoiding everyone until that point.

Also any idea if the prelude choices actually affect her in any capacity? And I mean in her behaviour more than in possibly open new scenes.

As for her finding her own happiness, sure, but not in "my" face... like she becomes BBF with all the girls and starts hanging out with Tommy/Derek/Quinn/Whoever.

I already wrote it some pages ago, IF she really scarred the MC so badly... he should do everything to stay away from her, what happens once, usually happens again.

Yes, DIK/Chick Zoey is different. DIK version is tougher. She hits the balls of the fireman on the dance floor who is harassing her, she has different dialogues, she is less judgmental for beating Oscar, she doesn't cry when MC reads his mother’s diary to her.

I actually have Jacob my blessing in my CHICK MJ throuple run. In that one, MC is very happily committed to the throuple and while thrown for a bit of a loop by Zoey's return has decidedly moved on. In my head canon, MC sees Jacob as a pretty chill guy and can tell he's vibing with her with their shared art passion, so why not? Zoey's her own person.



P.S. Zoey turns him down anyways.

Ofc she turns him down, or some group of patrons will start a crusade

 

[Ricthequick]

Yes, DIK/Chick Zoey is different. DIK version is tougher. She hits the balls of the fireman on the dance floor who is harassing her, she has different dialogues, she is less judgmental for beating Oscar, she doesn't cry when MC reads his mother’s diary to her.


Ofc she turns him down, or some group of patrons will start a crusade

Any idea what's the "default" Zoey? I'm not too fond on replaying the prelude over and over tbh.
I imagine the DIK one?

 

[KАRАMBA]

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[Geralt From Rivia]

Any idea what's the "default" Zoey? I'm not too fond on replaying the prelude over and over tbh.
I imagine the DIK one?

No canon here, default Zoey left in MCs flashbacks when he confess to Isabella, everything that happens next is in superposition, except for the main story events, so everyone has a canonical Zoey. I like the DIK version better.

 

[Rehwyn]

No canon here, default Zoey left in MCs flashbacks when he confess to Isabella, everything that happens next is in superposition, except for the main story events, so everyone has a canonical Zoey. I like the DIK version better.

If I remember right, you can skip the interlude on second playthroughs. I think he's asking which version of Zoey this results in (and I don't know which that is to answer myself).

 

[Dessolos]

No canon here, default Zoey left in MCs flashbacks when he confess to Isabella, everything that happens next is in superposition, except for the main story events, so everyone has a canonical Zoey. I like the DIK version better.

now I'm gonna have to redo one of my saves to make a Dik Zoey as I cant recall which one I did and didn't . As im pretty sure I went with Chick Zoey on most so I don't think I ever saw those Dik Zoey scenes.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

If I remember right, you can skip the interlude on second playthroughs. I think he's asking which version of Zoey this results in (and I don't know which that is to answer myself).

You still made the choice if you skip the Interlude:
Game asking what you do - talk to Emma or take her phone, and this forms Zoey personality.

 

[MoBy28]

You still made the choice if you skip the Interlude:
Game asking what you do - talk to Emma or take her phone, and this forms Zoey personality.

Think it also decides if Emma is still friends or not. Maybe someone she'll talk to about her "new found" feelings for the MC since it's close to the same situation as Emma and Bret.

 

[Ricthequick]

You still made the choice if you skip the Interlude:
Game asking what you do - talk to Emma or take her phone, and this forms Zoey personality.

Btw before I risking of making an "enemy" out of you, on a personal level I have (had) nothing against girls like Zoey, quite the contrary, when I was that age used to to gigs like these

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But one thing was clear already back then, when you were hanging out with chicks who were asking you (during a concert) if you had a piercing to gift them since they had just lost theirs...
Need to be careful around a certain kind of woman, if you knew it, you wouldn't get scarred and have loads of fun, but if you ended up getting scarred... move on

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Btw before I risking of making an "enemy" out of you, on a personal level I have (had) nothing against girls like Zoey, quite the contrary, when I was that age used to to gigs like these

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But one thing was clear already back then, when you were hanging out with chicks who were asking you (during a concert) if you had a piercing to gift them since they had just lost theirs...
Need to be careful around a certain kind of woman, if you knew it, you wouldn't get scarred and have loads of fun, but if you ended up getting scarred... move on

No, I won't start a personal vendetta if you don't like the character, so we're in the clear.

Think it also decides if Emma is still friends or not. Maybe someone she'll talk to about her "new found" feelings for the MC since it's close to the same situation as Emma and Bret.

Yeah, but Emma not worth to be a friend, it was a garbage act from her.

 

[Ricthequick]

No, I won't start a personal vendetta if you don't like the character, so we're in the clear.

Yeah, but Emma not worth to be a friend, it was a garbage act from her.

I like the character per se, not how the MC has no real option to interact with her (so far), except entering PTSD mode

 

[Dessolos]

I dread the day where Zoey's path kicks off as I dont think I can pick between her and Sage and even with multiple saves will be in the back of my mind to not play said path cause I like X alot