VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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[cayseron]

As I was talking about another game I suddenly realized what bugged me so much about the jill friendship/ non-bella path. Without her connection to the MC, she really has no reason for being at that Halloween party or the ensuing barbeque. She basically feels forced in there for storyline purposes.

well even if you completely ignore Jill there are some stuff that are canon like your tennis date, Tybalt drama, her becoming friends with Josie (library stuff), etc. SO her being at halloween party under her own explanation to open up and be more daring is not far fetched or weird. At least for me it never felt forced and fact she has "low-key slutty bee" outfit when you are not romancing her fortifies the fact she is there on her own agenda of being more spontaneous and trying to change who she is as she is having doubts about who she was until then (considering person she was did not pick MC's interest while attracting individuals like Tybalt) whereas having banana outfit when you ARE romancing her shows she is willing to embrace her silly side and is comfortable being herself and she is only capable to be in this state thanks to MC. as i said before, imo its not forced at all, its well thought out.

 

[shazba jnr]

As I was talking about another game I suddenly realized what bugged me so much about the jill friendship/ non-bella path. Without her connection to the MC, she really has no reason for being at that Halloween party or the ensuing barbeque. She basically feels forced in there for storyline purposes.

Pretty common consequence of branching. Can't deviate too much, so stuff like the Halloween party is canon, meaning everyone has to be there. As such, you get some throwaway lines to handwave the in-universe reasoning (Josy invited Jill, Jill convinces Bella) and voila.

It's pretty normal in non harem games that you have to keep interacting with the LI's you have rejected. Where DPC excels is the dialogue coding and pathing depending on whether you are on friendship or romance path. In far too many games, you break up with an LI and then spend the rest of the time flirting with and drooling over her, (basically just skipping sex scenes), until different endings.

Here, using Sage as an example, if you are on a friendship path with her, it's a real friendship. you hang out without flirting or asking what color her underwear is. Just buddies catching up, without sexual tension. If you're on romance, then it is romantic and sexual. Considering how many other devs fail at getting it right, DPC does a marvelous job.

I don't think so. The alternative for her was to go to Tybalt's shitty "party" or stay at home. Besides, she didn't come there alone, but with friends. It also was the time when she decided to start coming out of her "shell" and Bella encouraged her.

BBQ party - she bonded with Sage and other girls at Halloween party already, so it's not forced either - now she got more reasons to attend some frats parties and she have more friends around, so she doesn't need Bella & Bianca as a "support" anymore. And hate for Tybalt bonds her & Sage pretty more as well.

well even if you completely ignore Jill there are some stuff that are canon like your tennis date, Tybalt drama, her becoming friends with Josie (library stuff), etc. SO her being at halloween party under her own explanation to open up and be more daring is not far fetched or weird. At least for me it never felt forced and fact she has "low-key slutty bee" outfit when you are not romancing her fortifies the fact she is there on her own agenda of being more spontaneous and trying to change who she is as she is having doubts about who she was until then (considering person she was did not pick MC's interest while attracting individuals like Tybalt) whereas having banana outfit when you ARE romancing her shows she is willing to embrace her silly side and is comfortable being herself and she is only capable to be in this state thanks to MC. as i said before, imo its not forced at all, its well thought out.

I just figured Josy invited her. So I checked. And she did.

So, like, that's pretty much it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I just figured Josy invited her. So I checked. And she did.

So, like, that's pretty much it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't think he's talking about a lack of reasoning, like I did mention that Josy invited her. But probably more about how it "feels" forced, like why is Jill going to a DIK party in the first place if she isn't dating MC.

 

[shazba jnr]

I don't think he's talking about a lack of reasoning, like I did mention that Josy invited her. But probably more about how it "feels" forced, like why is Jill going to a DIK party in the first place if she isn't dating MC.

Because Josy and her are friends, and it's not just a DIK party, it's a HOTs party, and Josy's a HOT, and Tybalt is having a prep wankfest at the mansion, and Josy invited her. So she said, "Fuck it, I'ma wear a bee outfit and make that cunt Fuckface realise just how much he fucked up by not going on that picnic! Fucker!"

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If there's enough reasoning, how can it feel forced?

Josy invited her to the BBQ too.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Because Josy and her are friends, and it's not just a DIK party, it's a HOTs party, and Josy's a HOT, and Tybalt is having a prep wankfest at the mansion, and Josy invited her. So she said, "Fuck it, I'ma wear a bee outfit and make that cunt Fuckface realise just how much he fucked up by not going on that picnic! Fucker!"

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If there's enough reasoning, how can it feel forced?

Basic first impression that doesn't go away, shallow interpretation, dislike of the character creating a bias, etc. "Oh why would prissy, preppy, sheltered, snobby, stick up her ass Jill go to a roaring frat bro party filled with sex and booze? She should be at home reading a book like he fucking nerd she is "

 

[Better Cock Spock]

It's all perspective

 

[Znar26]

In my case, It was a 3 years degree and it was a total of 223 credits, being 1 credit the equivalent of 10 hours

What does that equate to in static renders and animations? How many branches? How many minigames?

 

[Znar26]

It's spooky season
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Mummies don't scare me though Especially when they're like Bella
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The Bella path at the Halloween party was very sweet and enduring.

 

[redbone89]

It's spooky season
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[mommimimi]

first time playing this game, gotta say, i don't very much care for the porn now, I just want Jill, .... and Bella, .... and Zoey, my top 3 LIs. Are there any other AVNs like this out there? There's Projekt: Passion that makes me focus on the plot more than the sex scenes, but other than that, nothing much.

 

[MiltonPowers]

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I agree with you, but a friendly heads up, next time attach an English translation as per General Rule 1.5.
(You can get warnings and bannings for not following the rules).

 

[citizenofncc]

If I'm not mistaken this game is under development since 2018... The indie game developer Warhorse studios announced 2 tripple A open world RPGs since then... Milking money with patch per year becomes a habit here... With this tempo... I'm not sure that the developer will be alive to finish the game... just saying...

 

[TonyMurray]

If I'm not mistaken this game is under development since 2018... The indie game developer Warhorse studios announced 2 tripple A open world RPGs since then... Milking money with patch per year becomes a habit here... With this tempo... I'm not sure that the developer will be alive to finish the game... just saying...

Warhorse have 250 employees (according to their Wikipedia article). That's 249 more than DPC, who is a solo dev. It's not really a comparison, let alone a fair one.

 

[citizenofncc]

Warhorse have 250 employees (according to their Wikipedia article). That's 249 more than DPC, who is a solo dev. It's not really a comparison, let alone a fair one.

we really won't compare the two games level of difficulty, right? Because KCD is 250 times harder to do... however... Тwo generations of bachelors have taken their diplomas and their lives into their own hands, while the main character is still a freshman. I'm worried sick that they won't be alive to see the main character graduate as well. If you catch my drift...

 

[Macky009]

It's spooky season
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Who's gonna be afraid of that slutty mummy with a mommy milkers

I don't think he's talking about a lack of reasoning, like I did mention that Josy invited her. But probably more about how it "feels" forced, like why is Jill going to a DIK party in the first place if she isn't dating MC.

Well Josy invited Jill on the party . Also she either go to the Diks holloween or the preps party the choice is obvious.

 

[Mordreut]

What does that equate to in static renders and animations? How many branches? How many minigames?

Imagine make the worst minigame in the game 1000 in a row daily

Branches... A lot, and almost all of them had a bad ending (more than a half of friends from the first years got expelled), but I reached a good one (not the best, but a good one)

Renders and animations... I can't count them , many good memories and some traumas, but they weren't worse than this one:

 

[DivineMachine]

first time playing this game, gotta say, i don't very much care for the porn now, I just want Jill, .... and Bella, .... and Zoey, my top 3 LIs. Are there any other AVNs like this out there? There's Projekt: Passion that makes me focus on the plot more than the sex scenes, but other than that, nothing much.

Have you tried Artemis and Eternum?

 

[shazba jnr]

If I'm not mistaken this game is under development since 2018... The indie game developer Warhorse studios announced 2 tripple A open world RPGs since then... Milking money with patch per year becomes a habit here... With this tempo... I'm not sure that the developer will be alive to finish the game... just saying...

we really won't compare the two games level of difficulty, right? Because KCD is 250 times harder to do... however... Тwo generations of bachelors have taken their diplomas and their lives into their own hands, while the main character is still a freshman. I'm worried sick that they won't be alive to see the main character graduate as well. If you catch my drift...

It's probably easier to compare apples with apples.

The idea of posing and rendering every single image for every single frame (of course many are reused) can't really be compared with creating a game engine. And while KCD is one of my favourite games ever, and I so am hanging out for KCD2, there's no point comparing it with this game.

A better comparison would be to compare it with all the other games on this site. And on that note, this is rated the 8th best game on the site, the developer has already completed a game prior to this, and it's clearly quite a momentous achievement in this industry.

Plus each release isn't a "patch" it's a new episode, an episode that takes about a year to create, with the developer actually working quite long hours (by his own admission). He unfortunately has a propensity for trying to include more and more each episode, and not always in line with what people here might want, but the game is still of a very high quality within this industry.

And as long as he continues to expand the story, and it's entertaining, it's no different to a TV season or something like that. It doesn't necessarily ever have to finish, although I believe there's only 6 more episodes to go (based on previous discussions from the developer).

And at roughly a year per episode, if you're worried about people dying in the next 6 years, maybe you should be focusing on their health rather than whether they'll get to see the end of a porn game...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Because Josy and her are friends, and it's not just a DIK party, it's a HOTs party, and Josy's a HOT, and Tybalt is having a prep wankfest at the mansion, and Josy invited her. So she said, "Fuck it, I'ma wear a bee outfit and make that cunt Fuckface realise just how much he fucked up by not going on that picnic! Fucker!"

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If there's enough reasoning, how can it feel forced?

Josy invited her to the BBQ too.

Her and Josy being friends is stretching it quite a bit. They met at the library a few times. They're acquaintances. There's a reason that Jill had to call Bella to be there. I get that there was an invite but her being spontaneous for the sake of the story without any buildup feels forced.

Basic first impression that doesn't go away, shallow interpretation, dislike of the character creating a bias, etc. "Oh why would prissy, preppy, sheltered, snobby, stick up her ass Jill go to a roaring frat bro party filled with sex and booze? She should be at home reading a book like he fucking nerd she is "

Im more arguing motivation then anything negative about my thick princess. If she wants to be there in a slutty bee costume, do so, just need a realistic reason for it.