VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

The federal minimum wage in the US is $7(ish) but each state has their own minimum wage, for examply my state as a min wage of nearly $15. So yes getting a job close to $20/hr isn't too difficult depending on where you live and what your skills are.

Exactly: so Maya without professional skills and with part-time requirements related to lesson times will take the minimum, or a little above it.

 

[Macky009]

The federal minimum wage in the US is $7(ish) but each state has their own minimum wage, for examply my state as a min wage of nearly $15. So yes getting a job close to $20/hr isn't too difficult depending on where you live and what your skills are.

Exactly: so Maya without professional skills and with part-time requirements related to lesson times will take the minimum, or a little above it.

Ok before we argue any further about money issue. Let's focus first on one thing what is Maya's course because we can settle if the money she can hypothetically earn is enough to cover her college. I only know that her course is related to gender studies. I check online online but most of the price I check is varies depending on the college. So we also need to compare B&R to a college in real life to truly asses the situation

 

[ModiThorrson]

Ok before we argue any further about money issue. Let's focus first on one thing what is Maya's course because we can settle if the money she can hypothetically earn is enough to cover her college. I only know that her course is related to gender studies. I check online online but most of the price I check is varies depending on the college. So we also need to compare B&R to a college in real life to truly asses the situation

I beleive she says early on that she wants to get into social work.

 

[Macky009]

I also forgot to mention in my post above that it should also consider in state and out of state college. In Maya's case I think we can consider that she is studying in the same state where she grew up so we can assume that the tuition fee is lesser.

 

[Gunizz]

I beleive she says early on that she wants to get into social work.

Being a porn game, that's a metaphor for "she wants to try some BBC in the 'hood". This open a scenario like Darklord's Christian Knockers.

 

[Macky009]

I beleive she says early on that she wants to get into social work.

Assuming Maya is taking a 4 yr. Bachelor Social work and she is instate college her tuition should be around 8k to 15k which I found online so I think it's possible for Maya to pay for her college if she works

I also remember when MC offering his inheritance to Maya to cover her tiution for this semester I don't remember the exact amout but it's not big of inheritance that also gives me the idea that Maya's tuition is around that range

 

[Mordreut]

the idea that Maya can solve her problem by working is a very Boomer...

a part time job that would allow her to make $20-30k in 6-8 months? we're talking about an illegal job I guess.



And that's leaving aside the whole non-believable issue of the bank who would still take it out on her for the loan she got from Patrick

I also remember when MC offering his inheritance to Maya to cover her tiution for this semester I don't remember the exact amout but it's not big of inheritance that also gives me the idea that Maya's tuition is around that range

The college in R&B costs less than 5k$. This detail is revealed after the MC receive his mother's inheritance. After that, he said in a talk he has enough money to pay one year in the college with the received money... And guess that, the inheritance was 5.000$

So, as we talked weeks ago, if Maya makes some sacrifices (like working weekends, holidays and the summer) she would earn enough money to pay the f*ck*ng tuition and her basic expenses, but she is happier whining about her father and watching old movies

I like the fact that Maya has a complex and contradictory character, it adds depth to her. Especially against Josy, who can be described in one sentence: a neighbor who for some unknown reason is in love with MC.
Maya is capricious, she likes to play the victim, she wants all her problems solved for her and doesn't want to do anything about it. She is naive and gullible. But as much as you don't like her personally, she is the most well-described and interesting character in the game.
In second place is probably Patrick. In general, everything about Maya's family is surprisingly well written, apparently DPC, as in the case of AL, used his own biography to write the main arcs.
Jill on the contrary I find the most boring and most one-dimensional character in this game. I have a lot of trouble playing her branch. She only has a cartoonish conflict with Tybalt along the way and that's it. Mostly everything is perfect. And DPC himself doesn't seem to know how to add variety and drama in her path besides cheating.

I don't agree with you at all. The whole history about Maya revolves around the tuition plot. Beside that, we only have a unhappy relationship with Josy (If you aren't in her path) or a throuple with MC as the axis (As we can observe during episode 9 and 10, the relationship without him between Maya and Josy is almost over).

About Jill, she is a overprotected only child. She is shy and introvert for that and she has problems to open to people. Yes, the blackmail plot is childish and stupid, but at the same time she starts to meet new people and be more open since he meets the MC (Even if we don't follow her path)

Said that, I really want to see a "tuition-free" Maya, because at the very beginning she had some interesting moments and I hope DPC shows us a more outgoing Jill

 

[Bazsa4]

Also I agree about Maya faith is in the hands of Quinn

THEN she's is trouble

 

[hrhr]

Being a porn game, that's a metaphor for "she wants to try some BBC in the 'hood". This open a scenario like Darklord's Christian Knockers.

there really needs to be a cringe emote for these ntr people who keep bringing up that kind of stuff out of absolutely nowhere
feels like they'd tell even their mom about it

 

[ModiThorrson]

The college in R&B costs less than 5k$. This detail is revealed after the MC receive his mother's inheritance. After that, he said in a talk he has enough money to pay one year in the college with the received money... And guess that, the inheritance was 5.000$

Just to clarify, $5000 was almost enough for one semester not an entire year.

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[jaw1986baby]

Just to clarify, $5000 was almost enough for one semester not an entire year.

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Honestly if you consider tuition plus a dorm room at USA state schools is more like 10k per semester
And all the private schools cost more

That is a downright CHEAP fkn school

 

[KingsRaiden]

Honestly if you consider tuition plus a dorm room at USA state schools is more like 10k per semester
And all the private schools cost more

That is a downright CHEAP fkn school

True that is cheap, especially for something that tries to sell itself as elite with all the supposed wealthy and high powered alumni. Even though it looks to have the fewest amount of Greeks I have ever seen in a College/University.

 

[Chalk boss]

Just to clarify, $5000 was almost enough for one semester not an entire year.

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Tuition at CUNY Lehman College is $7,410 per year for in-state residents and $15,360 for out-of-state residents. And Room & Board is $21,788.
I'm assuming all the protagonists are from the same state where the college is located. But even if the price is relatively inexpensive for them, they have to buy food, textbooks, and clothes anyway. Apparently her father gives Maya money not only for nice clothes, but also for breast augmentation surgery.
All in all, B&R is a small college. So small that it doesn't have its own sports team.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Just to clarify, $5000 was almost enough for one semester not an entire year.

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and then Mc's $5,000 is not $5,000 US dollars, it is a number in a game where there are at least 2 other fantasy currencies (where with $5 you pay 2 girls for a threesome and with $60 you redo the windows of a building)

 

[Lord Bradley]

Just finished Chick Jill run and WOW what a journey. It has such fresh perspective of the game because Jill's world deviate a lot more than other characters. You explore new sceneries, new friend groups and also it's different kind of environment, more mature, more classy. I can definitely see how not everyone would enjoy it and it's not my favorite path to have, but it did become one of my favorite paths to EXPERIENCE. Story wise it feels really satisfying to play this route. And I have to say... sex scenes are cranked to the max on this path, damn if some of my favorite girls would get such nice visuals I would be a happy camper.

Also... Is it just me or on this Jill path after things get serious I get the vibe that a) game is teasing me with a lot more cheating opportunities (which I'm tempted to dabble in just to see hehe) and b) some hints of foot/stockings fetish? Maya of all people shows up to my room without bra and see through shirt and starts teasing me about my love for stockings, meanwhile I sit there and think "Has she been reading my posts on F95zone about her?". Very interesting stuff gotta say. And no I'm not into feet, I still explored what was given and can appreciate it as interesting inclusion

Another thing I do on this run is I don't take any money from the environment, not even from my room. So MC is pretty much permanently broke and only gets money from other people when offered or bet is made (very rare occasions) and I just spent my last dollar on those damn fishes (thanks Nick, just let me do all the work and worry about finances without ability to get any money back from it since minigames are disabled). Maybe Jill will pamper me going forward, I did set my eyes on that sweet guitar hope she gifts it to MC for Xmas!!

 

[Bootyman92]

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Just keep talking about Maya's ass and you'll be golden
I've mentioned this before, but I'd love for Maya and Josy to wear remote control buttplugs in public. I choose to believe that's exactly what's happening in this preview
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I really like the way you're thinking, Spock

 

[Bootyman92]

Just to clarify, $5000 was almost enough for one semester not an entire year.

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This just reminds me of how wonky DPC's writing for the financial system is. Yes, it is a fantasy story, but some things really seem out of whack when you look at it properly

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Wow my mind just got blown, I am typing this with game open in the background cause I had to get it out there with fresh memory. So I am doing Chick Jill run or as I like to call it CHILL run and while initially going for Chick side is really boring (coupled with the fact that minigames are off), once you actually get the Jill focused parts it's such a fresh perspective of the game because she is sort of really different from most other characters. Maybe I was initially intimidated by that fact so it took me this long to try and see what kind of content she really has. And the details DrPinkCake put here are amazing actually. I would argue that disabling minigames for this run is enhancing the roleplay experience. MC being broke constantly compliments the dynamic he has with Jill who is clearly used to luxury. Mansion not being built perfectly, school tests not being done perfectly, fights not going smoothly. All these are meaningful flaws not detrimental ones. And the big reason why I jumped here straight away... Just got done with dinner at Bianca's house and I noticed Jill's model eyes looked a bit wonky and normally I would think that is mistake on rendering process by dev, but for such sophisticated game later I realize when MC said he couldn't spot which friend had glass eye.... It's bloody Jill isn't it? She has the glass eye? And the dialogue after they exit that house, the genius of that conversation with turtle and slow and steady wins the race comments. I might not have Jill high on favorites list and find Chick side of the game quite boring, but for STORY this run is actually so epic! It feels like you discover alternate version of the game from what you normally play and I enjoy this ride very much!

That makes me wonder, what if I enjoy Maya/Josy path after this unsuspecting surprise? Maybe I will give it a shot after all... Sorry for rambling, I got super emotional just now. Thanks for reading

Just finished Chick Jill run and WOW what a journey. It has such fresh perspective of the game because Jill's world deviate a lot more than other characters. You explore new sceneries, new friend groups and also it's different kind of environment, more mature, more classy. I can definitely see how not everyone would enjoy it and it's not my favorite path to have, but it did become one of my favorite paths to EXPERIENCE. Story wise it feels really satisfying to play this route. And I have to say... sex scenes are cranked to the max on this path, damn if some of my favorite girls would get such nice visuals I would be a happy camper.

Also... Is it just me or on this Jill path after things get serious I get the vibe that a) game is teasing me with a lot more cheating opportunities (which I'm tempted to dabble in just to see hehe) and b) some hints of foot/stockings fetish? Maya of all people shows up to my room without bra and see through shirt and starts teasing me about my love for stockings, meanwhile I sit there and think "Has she been reading my posts on F95zone about her?". Very interesting stuff gotta say. And no I'm not into feet, I still explored what was given and can appreciate it as interesting inclusion

Another thing I do on this run is I don't take any money from the environment, not even from my room. So MC is pretty much permanently broke and only gets money from other people when offered or bet is made (very rare occasions) and I just spent my last dollar on those damn fishes (thanks Nick, just let me do all the work and worry about finances without ability to get any money back from it since minigames are disabled). Maybe Jill will pamper me going forward, I did set my eyes on that sweet guitar hope she gifts it to MC for Xmas!!

So you're intentionally failing stuff and staying broke, so that Jill's path feels like it's about some broke dumbass being saved by the rich princess?

And yeah MC canonically has a thing for stockings/socks. Who can blame him

 

[Ray_D]

Honestly if you consider tuition plus a dorm room at USA state schools is more like 10k per semester
And all the private schools cost more

That is a downright CHEAP fkn school

Porn logic, don't ask questions or you'll start to notice a lot of holes.

 

[Lord Bradley]

So you're intentionally failing stuff and staying broke, so that Jill's path feels like it's about some broke dumbass being saved by the rich princess?

And yeah MC canonically has a thing for stockings/socks. Who can blame him

Not necessarily intentionally, but it does feel more immersive considering all the struggle talks from MC. And roleplay wise it helps that I don't get paid for playing games on phone or picking up random money all over campus. Maybe you misunderstood, I have minigames disabled on this run. So basically I belong to the flow DPC sets, imperfect grades, not expert carpenter, not party planning prodigy, not Bruce Lee incarnate etc. Without minigames only money you get basically by stealing, I just chose not to do that. As far as "poor peasant and rich princess falls in love" trope goes, it's not really what I strive for, but I don't mind it and why not it's not like it's overused theme especially in this industry. Who hasn't thought about having a sugarmoma once or twice