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funkymonkeyjedi

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Putting aside why people care what strangers do with their £$€ I think the presumption is Patrons changing how or if they pay would change dev behavior and these days I have real doubts it would. It's frustration looking for a fix to long AVN dev times.

We’ve all seen milkers on this site. Their funding falling off a cliff didn’t change their behavior one iota if anything it entrenched it (so many :cry:grandma funerals:rolleyes:). The biggest were happy to earn relative pennies for nothing in comparison to tens of thousands a year for work. It's all radio silence, random update and if the funding was too low they bail entirely until "abandoned". And that’s the motherfucking milkers.

When it comes to devs such as DPC, digi.B, US, Classy Lemon, Caribdis, Ocean, Philly etc that do actually produce quality work. I’m not sure why changing how the talented devs are funded or paying them less is going to make them work faster or produce more; if losing money couldn't motivate milkers to do that. I think the truth is AVNs taking years is what it is now and you either put it on ignore or wait.

Unless you have an actual contract with someone or own shares good luck influencing their work schedule in any way.

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I would take Ocean out of that list. He's intentionally working on 2 titles at once. WiAB is barely out of the gates, and is already at 1 yr update intervals. SG is hardly at perhaps %40 produced, and has had several setbacks. He can barely keep up with 1 title, yet he insists on working on both. That's a business model that will never see the completion of either of his titles. In my eyes that falls right into the milker category whether you agree with that or not.

When he ditched his partner(s) for whatever reason, he should have halted WiAB and concentrated on just 1 title. I might have some rather harsh criticisms of DPC but at least he's persistent, like a dog chasing his tail. Folks might moan and cry about the lengthy dev cycle, but that's generally those that don't have a grasp of the coding and path complexity of BaDIK. But in my eyes, Ocean has performed a carnal sin by not compromising on his aspirations. He basically bit off more than he can chew.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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Putting aside why people care what strangers do with their £$€ I think the presumption is Patrons changing how or if they pay would change dev behavior and these days I have real doubts it would. It's frustration looking for a fix to long AVN dev times.

We’ve all seen milkers on this site. Their funding falling off a cliff didn’t change their behavior one iota if anything it entrenched it (so many :cry:grandma funerals:rolleyes:). The biggest were happy to earn relative pennies for nothing in comparison to tens of thousands a year for work. It's all radio silence, random update and if the funding was too low they bail entirely until "abandoned". And that’s the motherfucking milkers.

When it comes to devs such as DPC, digi.B, US, Classy Lemon, Caribdis, Ocean, Philly etc that do actually produce quality work. I’m not sure why changing how the talented devs are funded or paying them less is going to make them work faster or produce more; if losing money couldn't motivate milkers to do that. I think the truth is AVNs taking years is what it is now and you either put it on ignore or wait.

Unless you have an actual contract with someone or own shares good luck influencing their work schedule in any way.

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I agree! There are definitely "milkers" out there, too many to mention. It certainly can be frustrating to see devs go silent or disappear altogether, but this kind of thing is inevitable everywhere there is money to be made. It's especially inevitable in the AVN world because devs are anonymous.
 

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Baalzie

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I agree! There are definitely "milkers" out there, too many to mention. It certainly can be frustrating to see devs go silent or disappear altogether, but this kind of thing is inevitable everywhere there is money to be made. It's especially inevitable in the AVN world because devs are anonymous.
OFC they're frigging anonymous!
Even when anonymous, some devs have been doxxed and threatened and have their families threatened by sicko's from basements worldwide. And they don't have the billions of the likes of EA etc to help them get security or help... (Even "normal" devs are getting harassed by utter morons nowadays on the daily).
Seeing red flags here...
 
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OFC they're frigging anonymous!
Even when anonymous, some devs have been doxxed and threatened and have their families threatened by sicko's from basements worldwide. And they don't have the billions of the likes of EA etc to help them get security or help... (Even "normal" devs are getting harassed by utter morons nowadays on the daily).
Seeing red flags here...
only devs who deserve to be doxxed are EA and when i say that, i more mean the shareholders and CEO, they can get fucked for all the studios they have shut down.
 
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felicemastronzo

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I know how territorial people can be when it comes to relationships, but this is Jill. You know her. :ROFLMAO:
From the opposite side, Josy get jealous in any moment, but she was a bit coward to talk about it.
Jill is always the one at the surprise picnic that you either go or you're out....



I can hardly imagine a worse scenario for a girl than a guy struggling to get another girl out of his mind so he just wants to distract himself. :oops: :oops: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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OFC they're frigging anonymous!
Even when anonymous, some devs have been doxxed and threatened and have their families threatened by sicko's from basements worldwide. And they don't have the billions of the likes of EA etc to help them get security or help... (Even "normal" devs are getting harassed by utter morons nowadays on the daily).
Seeing red flags here...
Fair point. I would say though, that if folks are paying then they are owed regular status updates. Doesn't matter how big your release window is... the customers will always be much more tolerant if you let them know what's going on. Other than that protecting yourself and your family should always come first.
 

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LOL it wouldn't be netorare for me because I don't like Maya at all and the only sex scene I still have yet to see, despite having paths even for secondary girls, is one involving her. So she is just a random girl to me. Also, it's just a VN. But obviously it would be real netorare for you and everyone that has real feelings for girls made of pixels. And there, I admit, lies my real perversion: I like to see people suffering, crying and complaining "netorareeee" for their imaginary girlfriends. Yeah I am cruel.

By the way, if you haven't noticed some girls that can have a relationship with MC in BaD are literally prostitutes that sucked half campus, and (almost) nobody of us give a fuck about it. You can relax because you are not Tremolo and these CGI girls do not exist.
My point is your obsession with black men, this isn't even about BaDIK but how people like you seem to have a need to post about it in so many threads even when it has nothing to do with the subject matter. NTR posters play victim but I see them posting their stuff in non-NTR threads/games all the time. I'll stop here to not get too off-topic but it is annoying how this would be considered OT while constant NTR blabber isn't.
 

Better Cock Spock

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nobody thinks of Elena on the left? :unsure:
Elena have smaller butt. Not to be mean or anything, but trust me that's not Elena. Unless DPC made a scene where she visits plastic surgeon, then my bad..
These are Elena, Tiffany and Gina.
I agree with you there. Elena might be a fun girl, but being flat as a board, she's a carpenter's dream. He'll, she's so flat she could easily pass off as a man.
I don't rhink that's Elena, that woman on the picture got a big ass on the other hand Elena has nonexistent ass. I still think it was the flight steward
You know what... I might be coming around on thinking it's Elena. Other people have been guessing Kylie like me, but of course the hair isn't right. The tits don't look the same either, and Kylie is pretty busty.
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I immediately dismissed Elena as a possibility because I remember her being pretty flat on both sides, or at least very petite. But looking back at Episode 6 when we get a good look at her, I think she's now a strong possibility at the very least.
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The mystery girl's ass still appears bigger, but I think it's not as unlikely as before that it could be Elena.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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I think it relates more towards the amount of each patron ends up giving for, and let's face it, a mediocre entertainment medium compared to AAA titles. What I mean is, when a AAA title hits the proverbial shelves, it doesn't normally add up to a few thousands of dollars' worth.

Bare with me here for a sec, when for example GTA5 launched, it was about ~$80 for the base game itself. And you get your money's worth. But when it comes to VN's for some reason, unlimited donations from the player base for an incomplete product is simply mentally retarded and defaults to a norm for the industry. Yet people are fine with doing that. That's completely outside my capacity of understanding. Dropping a few bucks at update releases is much more reasonable. But this business model exclusively takes advantage of people with more money than brains, and that's including those with barely enough to put food on the table.

But it is what it is. And my only option is to just do the reasonable thing and not subscribe to the default of "oh take my money, I need to see fake boobs because pornhub is too realistic", or whatever the reasoning is.

Anyhow, that's kinda how I see it as.
You are right. The reason for this screwed up economy in porn games is due to the fact that porn games are not mainstream and so there's no economies of scale to be had. While a handful of porn games, like Being a DIK, seem to have broken through to becoming a bit less niche, it's still not something any of us will talk with coworkers (or even close friends!) about. And because so much porn is hidden away and private, most people don't buy it (as evidenced by all of us here on this forum), but steal it instead. So given all that, how would most AVN developers ever see any real commercial success? Instead they must rely almost entirely on a much smaller group of core funders.

The only way to change this would be for all us here to stop downloading "free" games and play only what we buy.
 

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I still doubt its Elena, first because she doesn't appear to talk much to the dorm girls being a HOT

Second, because I believe the hair colour is a bit too light for it to be Elena, its probably the left most girl from this pic
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Also, I'm pretty sure that Elena will wear a bit less than that lol

Thie was a pretty great rooster, quite easy to place it on my timeline.
Dormies and HOTs do interact though. Becky, Sally, Kylie, Penny, Tiffani and so on all go to their parties and vice versa, have little friendships, or at least talk to each other on Rooster. And I mentioned that girl in a previous post, but right now she's absolutely nothing but wallpaper. Maybe she'll get a name in Episode 11, but ehh. Same with the Stewardess.

Normally I'd agree, but it's a panty party. It's not like she went to Halloween naked.
 
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