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now i feel sorry for your time
But without the date, everything did go to plan, she was going to tell him she cant see him for a while, the date gets cancelled and she goes through with that plan of not seeing him again. and in her words "maybe its easier this way"
No, MC couldn't go for Jill - it takes two people to make a relationship work. after this date Jill was either out of the game or in the game so to speak. she was or she wasn't interested. Tybalt had caused enough distance between the pair that there was nothing essentially for the MC to even fight for. without the important date MC could have turned up for a secret date so to speak, and Jill would have said no. - you are correct when you say people can influence other people and without that date Tybalts influence is massive over Jill... what stops him is Jill no longer replicates the attraction or wants or even effing talks to him. I think the first time they even chat again afterward (and Im sure our resident encyclopedia
Better Cock Spock will correct me if I'm wrong) is when she makes sure he's coming to watch her play piano (yes I know they go play tennis)
Its as people have been saying, without that date there is nothing to really fight for, Jill doesn't catch feels,Jill continues to stay clear of MC, MC doesn't want to battle in a losing fight. Is it executed well? Absolutely fucking not, DPC well missed the landing on this. in fact the amount of times this particular scene gets directed on here is ridiculous, But it takes playing both sides to understand why and that just shitty writing.
1, - "it takes two people to make a relationship work" i would say, it is true on the opposite too. Jill decides alone, mc has not a word.
2, - "she was or she wasn't interested." she was interested and our clown didnt do anything what could has any effect on it. only forbid them from each other.
3, - "Jill would have said no" i am pretty sure she wouldnt said a no. but this what we never can know.
4, - "MC doesn't want to battle in a losing fight."
oh boy...
correct me if i am wrong, but you say it, because of his inner bullshit, right?
but first of all, Caleb... mc cant win over him. still mc can start a fight. i already hear your answer.
mc dont know it will be a losing. (after Chad fight, mc could have know it, but it is not matter now)
mc dont know, the fight against Caleb will be losing fight or not.
mc cant know the fight for Jill is a losing fight or not.
secondly, my gameplay, i am the one who choose the path, not mc. i can do it in the good way or bad way. if i do it in bad way, than i can get rejection. from Maya and Jojo. from Balla. Sage was always available at ep8 in my walks, so i dont know about what has she. but Jill dont want reject mc. she want a date with him at this momemt. she want more than just one date. thats why tybalt need to blackmail her to not see him, right?
mc's inner bullshit is bullshit. no need to take him seariusly. he always say what his dad said to him. go after your heart. but his dad said, no fight, no drug, use condom. he can attack Caleb and troy, he can use drug, he dont use condom.
so, in my eyes it was just a cheap story telling. "hmmm, i called Jill to date, because of her, not because of tybalt. i kissed Jill, because i am interested in her. i went to Sage, because i told her i will. she was sick. i am not shit. but it has nothing to do with Jill, who just timed her date badly. i am still interested in Jill, so i wont see her anymore."
5, - "she cant see him for a while" "cant" is not "dont want" right? so, she want see him, just tybalt blackmail her. "for a while" to me it means, she want and planning to see him later. i can be patient and wait for the blackmail be done. but as we know, it is not working in that way.
you can see it at two ways. 1, she said "for a while" but after the blackmail is done, there is nothing. so her words are not golden. 2, she is not falling for mc. she dont want dating with him anymore. (i think you said this)
but if you go on the picknick date (ofc when you are always dik, so no sushi), than she say, she want only friendship with him at the bench scene in ep9. so, she wont falling for him even after that picknick date.
no matter she is planning to not see him after the cancelled date. it is not impossible to change a woman's plan. but giving up is eazy, right?
but i think we speak about this enough to see what is the core difference and end it.
i deny 100% that Jill would say no, because i dont see anything what changed. (the clown blackmail means only that the date has to be in secret). i dont take serious her plan to not see him. while your stance is 100% say no and you take her plan serious.
