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Yeah that was my fault in my head it sounded sarcastic but it might not have come across as that for others
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I wanted to ask you to remove yourself from this forum, but you managed to redeem yourself.
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Have to say i don't believe there will be another change with Jade if the protagonist didn't show up at the meeting spot. That was pretty much the choice to have a affair or not with her.
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Obviously she won't be pleased about it and it might not be easy to get another shot, but making an excuse that he got caught up in an inescapable pledge activity at the DIK mansion would be believable, plus the chaos caused by the Cathy picture also provides a convenient excuse.
It's another thing that feels like it's ripped right out of the college comedies that DPC has based this game on, where a character is supposed to meet up with a hot girl but gets caught up at a party and then he goes grovelling to her and she gives him another shot. It wouldn't be true, but it seems plausible that it could work.
Who says the MC will the be one to try something with them as friends? The prevailing theory around here is that the friend choice just locks you out of a threesome path, but that M and/or J might gravitate back to the MC if their relationship continues to struggle.Significant choices regarding your relationship with the girls are permanent. Choosing friendship will remain that way until the end of the game otherwise would be the point of choosing for something more if you can obtain it later while being friends. It wouldn't make sense.
If Bella doesn't like you due to the choices you made do you think she'll suddenly changer her mind for whatever reason in the future or if you reject Sage she'll still want to be FWB with you later on in the story?
Having 2 options yet being able to obtain both would be both a waste of time and coding for the dev nor would it be a VN with meaningful choices. You want Maya or Josy solo? You're gonna have to suck it up and be with them and hope a solo route will open up for them.
MC's Bio: "I told Maya and Josy I only wanted to remain friends"
Later
MC's Bio: "Maya and Josy broke up and I decided to make a move on Maya"
Doesn't make much sense doesn't it?
I'm hardly the first person to say this and it's a fairly persistent theory. Even our very own Mormont believes so.
- Jan 16, 2020
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No, choosing to stay friends prevents you from romancing M&J. Allow me to make it very simple to understand
Try for something more = Romance with both or either Maya & Josy
Choose to stay friends = NO romance with EITHER Maya or Josy for the rest of the game. (You reject them as the variable states)
- Dec 13, 2018
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When you say "variable" are you talking about a line hidden in the code that explicitly states this is it closed for good, or do you just mean the choice presented in the game?
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Yes but I'm meaning on the romance route that could happen nothing will happen on friends route apart from maybe helping them out now and again.
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Just tell her you suddenly had to drop a deuce or something.
- Sep 20, 2018
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I agree with the numerous complaints about the poor writing and rushed resolution to the scene, but for the most part I think all three remain in character.
The only part that seems like something they would never do is when an MC settles for being friends and Maya and Josy go back to kissing. That would be cold odd even if the MC was thoroughly DIKish and largely disinterested in them sexually. It's flat out ridiculous for an MC who qualifies for 'something more.'
I agree Jade will be displeased with an MC who blows off their date, but I'm not sure it would be an unforgivable sin.
Her affair with the MC is already, objectively speaking, a stupid idea; *very* high risk for a short term reward. The fact that Jade was willing to fool around with the MC in class indicates a big part of her interest in the MC is down to impulse. That impulse will likely survive a blown date, at least if the MC can make a half-decent excuse.
It would be different if the MC did something to indicate he was untrustworthy; that I think really would be a permanent Jade Over. (Which should worry people who show Derek the video...)
On my very first play thru of v0.1 back then, during the MC+Maya lunch at a cafe scene, I literally said to myself, "Maya is Josy's lover", although I never posted about it.On that note, I was coincidentally browsing the beginning of this thread looking for some stuff, and this, ladies and gents, was the 1st 100% accurate speculation/theory to appear on this thread 3 days after the game's initial release.
Kudos to RanchFTW
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Judging by the criminally low likes it got and responses such as this:
...it's funny how so few people believed it at the time.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
So a retrospective congrats to Ranch. Now that's how you write a concise and well backed up theory - you should do it more often
- Sep 20, 2018
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I get the logic, but I'm not sure I agree. When you go for the threeway relationship with Maya and Josy, the character summary screen at the end of Episode 4 flat out says he's not sure what their relationship is and he's still dating other girls.
If the decision to pursue a romance with them is explicitly presented as a work in progress, I don't see why a decision to stay just friends is necessarily set in stone.
Due to previous decisions the game is quite complex at the JM-decision point to narrow it down to only 1-2 options :
- mc can choose to not have sex with Josy on 2nd date.
- mc can choose other activities than staying with or helping Maya.
- mc has RP (reputation points) for both Josy and Maya
- mc's sex scene with Maya before Josy arrives depends on how much she likes mc.
Going for more than friends makes sense if mc had sex with both and high RP with both (independant of affinity).
Having sex and high RP with only one of them would be a reason to break the relation and get one of them. However this cannot be done since it would have consequences with the Bro-relation to Derek who would probably never forgive mc ruining Maya's relationship with Josy.
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If you reject J&M or they reject you, your save has this code in it:
_defaults_set > ep4_rejectedMayaJosy 1/0 : (1)
pathMayaJosy 1/0 : (0)
So they pretty much are out of the picture unless you change the .save file
- Nov 30, 2018
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I don't have to never once occur to me that I'd ever turn her down
That's never going to end well if Derek knows everyone will know and if it was to get out I wonder what the repercussions would be right there and then.
Saving a decision in a variable to later be able to evaluate it is not unusual.
It is probably evaluated for episode 4 summary which text to display for Josy and Maya.
It really depends on the code of later episodes if this decision has more consequences or not.
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Well then that just goes along the line of the speculation that the threeway path is closed by staying friends since that's a combined path, but it still says nothing about possible solo paths later if they were to break up again. Question is, are there any variables labeled "pathMaya" or "pathJosy"? If not, could variables like that be added later?
I guess we'll see in Ep 5 because if you can still gain RP with them, that might be an indication of something, because surely there would be no need for them to have RP if you're just friends.
We should be at the point in the game where our previous choices need to matter more. First season building up intros and your affinity...now we should be dealing with the consequences of it!
Atleast, seeing as how many episodes there are vs how the dik/neutral/chick bar looks.
It might not have been an outright rejection, but Jade was at that point where she really needed that release. Don't think she'll be well pleased and will probably direct that anger at the MC now (Might even fail us if that earlier rejection dialogue is anything to go by).
Atleast, seeing as how many episodes there are vs how the dik/neutral/chick bar looks.
It might not have been an outright rejection, but Jade was at that point where she really needed that release. Don't think she'll be well pleased and will probably direct that anger at the MC now (Might even fail us if that earlier rejection dialogue is anything to go by).
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That would have made that choice pointless with them... I'm not so sure why it's so hard to understand that there are two separate routes for Maya and Josy 1. The romance route 3ways and whatever romance you have going on with them 2. The friendship route so you are safe to pursue other girls and let them get on with their lives together.