VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Alleykatt]

On a more serious note, I think MC and Derek will pass no problem. What is most likely IMO is that:
- We are going to be told that it was a test of commitment and that no one has actually completed the entire list before and we were actually the pair that got the most done.

This doesn't work because we overheard Tommy telling Quinn that this might be the first time they reject the maggots.

 

[lemonfreak]

This is why the whole M&J situation is FUBAR for those that like/liked them.

Players who like/liked them can do everything they can with both of them in the first 3 episodes but can also do a lot with other LIs and side girls, and I guarantee most did because this is an adult game after all. So really, in this scenario, they're all guilty of not being honest with the person/persons they liked. I wonder how M&J would react to finding out the MC has been making out with the librarian, getting a blowjob and a titjob from the HOT's president, buying gloryhole services from Quinn, and spending a night in bed with the richest girl on campus?

Sure, M&J were technically in a committed, albeit rocky, relationship and didn't tell the MC the whole truth which stings when that revelation happens if you were really invested in either or both of them, but he's not without sin and likely neither are these players who are so hurt by it that they view M&J as the only ones in the wrong.

The fact that MC continues to pursue both Josy and Maya knowing they were in relationships (it being with each other is irrelevant), not to mention Sage and Bella kind of makes him the bad guy. Jill is the only single LI which is why I thought it would be so good if she turned out to be his cousin (she won't because DPC doesn't do that but it'd be a good twist of the knife)

 

[Tumai]

This doesn't work because we overheard Tommy telling Quinn that this might be the first time they reject the maggots.

Tommy has been a nay sayer since he closed the door on MC's face after the panty raid and has talked down Derek/MC due to his own addled mind (dudes a junky who stole Josy' nail polish to get high since he was a kid). He has his own subjective agenda

Wouldn't take his word as gospel. If it's not objective, he'll be overuled by Rusty and the rest.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The fact that MC continues to pursue both Josy and Maya knowing they were in relationships (it being with each other is irrelevant), not to mention Sage and Bella kind of makes him the bad guy. Jill is the only single LI which is why I thought it would be so good if she turned out to be his cousin (she won't because DPC doesn't do that but it'd be a good twist of the knife)

All the main LIs are likely going to hurt the MC in one way or another with their own personal dramas, we're just waiting for the axe to fall for each of them.

It would honestly be quite amusing if, by the end of season 2, people have also turned against Bella and Sage because of revelations about them and their relationship dramas, and people are also souring on Jill because her personal drama is driving a wedge between her and the MC.

DPC has a history of stirring up controversy, so giving each of the main LIs some drama that taints them in the eyes of some of the players seems like something they'd do.

 

[pilapila3]

The fact that MC continues to pursue both Josy and Maya knowing they were in relationships (it being with each other is irrelevant), not to mention Sage and Bella kind of makes him the bad guy. Jill is the only single LI which is why I thought it would be so good if she turned out to be his cousin (she won't because DPC doesn't do that but it'd be a good twist of the knife)

I have to disagree MC being bad guy in that context.
1. It's college life
2. Hormones are buzzing
3. MC is single and so far except of the conversation with M&J no commitments were made
4. MC is still in search of the only one/ones

 

[lemonfreak]

This doesn't work because we overheard Tommy telling Quinn that this might be the first time they reject the maggots.

Tommy has been a nay sayer since he closed the door on MC's face after the panty raid and has talked down Derek/MC due to his own addled mind (dudes a junky who stole Josy' nail polish to get high since he was a kid). He has his own subjective agenda

Wouldn't take his word as gospel. If it's not objective, he'll be overuled by Rusty and the rest.

It's worth noting that the board wasn't being updated so maybe Tommy doesn't know how far through the list MC and Derek have gotten.

That's apart from the fact that I think Tommy is intended to be an antagonist.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It was a joke brother. It isn't in the game, but I'm glad that I made the graphic convincing enough as a potential solution

On a more serious note, I think MC and Derek will pass no problem. What is most likely IMO is that:
- We are going to be told that it was a test of commitment and that no one has actually completed the entire list before and we were actually the pair that got the most done.

Other options:
- Saved by the bell. The HoTs not showing up causes the ceremony to be postponed, and we get to sneak off and do it
- It's actually not quite 8:00 pm and we get to rush out and do it
- Dating Jill from under all the preps noses surpasses a physical egging by a mile (remember, egging also means to humiliate, to mock or to goad someone).

I think the fight with Chad is going to stand the MC in good stead as will fucking Quinn on the roof if you did it because Jacob saw you, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that something is going to happen that will delay getting the coveted jacket.

I don't think the lack of egging the preps will be the reason as, like I said, the fight with Chad and fucking Quinn will be considered such high achievements that it will negate not doing it. But I could see something happening that will block the MC from becoming a DIK; maybe the evaluation gets interrupted and put on hold, maybe there's a vote and Tommy is the decider but he votes against the MC, or maybe there's a final challenge where the MC and Derek are pitted against each other and Derek wins.

Also, from a narrative standpoint, I think it would be so much more rewarding if it's only at or near the end of the game when the MC finally gets that jacket. Maybe Quinn's schemes and business dealings start a chain of events that threaten the DIKs, the HOTs, and the college at large, and the MC is the one who saves the day. Getting the DIK jacket for doing that would feel so much better than getting it from doing a few college hazing challenges.

 

[MrFriendly]

I think the fight with Chad is going to stand the MC in good stead as will fucking Quinn on the roof if you did it because Jacob saw you, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that something is going to happen that will delay getting the coveted jacket.

I don't think the lack of egging the preps will be the reason as, like I said, the fight with Chad and fucking Quinn will be considered such high achievements that it will negate not doing it. But I could see something happening that will block the MC from becoming a DIK; maybe the evaluation gets interrupted and put on hold, maybe there's a vote and Tommy is the decider but he votes against the MC, or maybe there's a final challenge where the MC and Derek are pitted against each other and Derek wins.

Also, from a narrative standpoint, I think it would be so much more rewarding if it's only at or near the end of the game when the MC finally gets that jacket. Maybe Quinn's schemes and business dealings start a chain of events that threaten the DIKs, the HOTs, and the college at large, and the MC is the one who saves the day. Getting the DIK jacket for doing that would feel so much better than getting it from doing a few college hazing challenges.

Ooooh I like the way you think. But I don't think that's going to happen. I really feel like we're getting the jacket soon. I mean, my MC doesn't really want to be a DIK (he'd rather just keep his head down at this point and focus on school and whichever girl is his #1 - neither J or M) but I don't see DPC letting us do that.

 

[lemonfreak]

I think the fight with Chad is going to stand the MC in good stead as will fucking Quinn on the roof if you did it because Jacob saw you, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that something is going to happen that will delay getting the coveted jacket.

I don't think the lack of egging the preps will be the reason as, like I said, the fight with Chad and fucking Quinn will be considered such high achievements that it will negate not doing it. But I could see something happening that will block the MC from becoming a DIK; maybe the evaluation gets interrupted and put on hold, maybe there's a vote and Tommy is the decider but he votes against the MC, or maybe there's a final challenge where the MC and Derek are pitted against each other and Derek wins.

Also, from a narrative standpoint, I think it would be so much more rewarding if it's only at or near the end of the game when the MC finally gets that jacket. Maybe Quinn's schemes and business dealings start a chain of events that threaten the DIKs, the HOTs, and the college at large, and the MC is the one who saves the day. Getting the DIK jacket for doing that would feel so much better than getting it from doing a few college hazing challenges.

That's a neat solution to the whole needing a place to stay because if Derek wins that hypothetical challenge then MC can move in with his roommate since it's fairly obvious that living with Bella, Sage or Maya and Josy will only cause more problems long-term.

Which is actually why it won't happen

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Hell the whole premise of the DIK thing is helping Derek and needing a room, right? Depending on which route you take you don't need a room. Hell on the DIK route I've already whooped Troy's ass once, why would I ever have needed a room in the first place?

 

[Alleykatt]

I think the fight with Chad is going to stand the MC in good stead as will fucking Quinn on the roof if you did it because Jacob saw you, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that something is going to happen that will delay getting the coveted jacket.

Fucking Quinn can't be a factor because not everyone did it (I didn't). So if that were a factor, i.e. not fucking her didn't get you in while fucking her did, it would split the narrative, which I don't think is likely. I think DPC will make sure everyone either passes or fails to keep the story less branched. (Personally I hope we don't get in since I don't like the DIKs.)

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

I agree with Alleykatt. There are going to be certain things that are going to happen as far as the story line goes. Otherwise this is going to get HUGE with so many branches that DPC is never going to be able to keep up or cause the game to suffer because it will end up being too big.

 

[StarWulf]

Love Interest.

Lesbian Interest. Clearly. Get it right people...

 

[lemonfreak]

Fucking Quinn can't be a factor because not everyone did it (I didn't). So if that were a factor, i.e. not fucking her didn't get you in while fucking her did, it would split the narrative, which I don't think is likely. I think DPC will make sure everyone either passes or fails to keep the story less branched. (Personally I hope we don't get in since I don't like the DIKs.)

If you mean completely branching narratives then I agree but it's totally possible you use alternate dialogues to create the impression of branches where none exist. Take, for example Holy Bacchus's idea that MC and Derek will be foreced to play-off against each other. If MC stayed with Sage or Bella (both temporary solutions to his homelessness) then he'd compete hard to win the challenge whereas, if he stayed with Derek, he'd figure he could take over Derek's bed and throw the competion. In both cases, Derek would win. MC would continue staying with one of the girls for a while of move into Derek's room.

Most of that wouldn't need much work, the locations are already rendered, as long as the majority of events in those locations are limited to the free-roam sections it doesn't matter where they take place.

 

[Madness-101]

Ooooh I like the way you think. But I don't think that's going to happen. I really feel like we're getting the jacket soon. I mean, my MC doesn't really want to be a DIK (he'd rather just keep his head down at this point and focus on school and whichever girl is his #1 - neither J or M) but I don't see DPC letting us do that.

A maggot taking out the president of the Jocks is impressive he will have gained a lot of respect from fellow Diks and that rise for the MC is certainly going to appeal not just to Heather but other women as well it was probably why Arieth kept looking at us creepily all update I actually think for that he will be let into the diks just for that they would be crazy not to accept the MC.

Yeah or someone has a better copy and paste function if you go back far enough you can find all sorts of hidden gems

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Ooooh I like the way you think. But I don't think that's going to happen. I really feel like we're getting the jacket soon. I mean, my MC doesn't really want to be a DIK (he'd rather just keep his head down at this point and focus on school and whichever girl is his #1 - neither J or M) but I don't see DPC letting us do that.

That's another reason why I think delaying it until the end would be better because right now he's only doing this because he got roped into it, not because he really wants it. He needs to want it before he gets it, in my book, and setting off a chain of events whereby he ends up saving the DIKs because he has a good reason to do so would certainly make him more appreciative of it.

That's a neat solution to the whole needing a place to stay because if Derek wins that hypothetical challenge then MC can move in with his roommate since it's fairly obvious that living with Bella, Sage or Maya and Josy will only cause more problems long-term.

Which is actually why it won't happen

Hell the whole premise of the DIK thing is helping Derek and needing a room, right? Depending on which route you take you don't need a room. Hell on the DIK route I've already whooped Troy's ass once, why would I ever have needed a room in the first place?

And that's another thing; the room situation. If only Derek gets in, his room becomes available which would be a convenient way to give the MC a room. (Getting acccepted in to the DIKs would also conveniently get him a room, but if he doesn't he can still get one this way.) Although, for those on the M&J threesome route, I wouldn't mind continuing to stay with both of them, if for no other reason than to make sure they're not doing anything without the MC.

However, I wonder about M&J sharing a room because the issue here is that Maya's Dad might come back for another visit and if they don't know he's coming and he catches them together, it could turn out bad for them, so this surely means they can't stay in the same room, so where does Josy go?

Fucking Quinn can't be a factor because not everyone did it (I didn't). So if that were a factor, i.e. not fucking her didn't get you in while fucking her did, it would split the narrative, which I don't think is likely. I think DPC will make sure everyone either passes or fails to keep the story less branched. (Personally I hope we don't get in since I don't like the DIKs.)

Which is why I said "if". Fucking Quinn on the roof in full view of Jacob could turn out to be an important decision if it affects both the "sex outdoors" challenge and the DIKs perception of the MC. I mean, a freshman who's only been at B&R for 2 weeks fucking the HOTs VP out in the open? That's a pretty big fucking deal.

Not saying that this would create a branching path where if you don't do it you don't get in, but just that it might give a slight dialogue change that makes it seem like you're more likely to get in because of it.

 

[michael1984]

I love how people are like I don't wanna get in the dik fraternity...

And I don't want that jacket.......

Its called being a dik … it focusses around that dik fraternity

The hell week discussion at this point is people copying and pasting messages from other users

Rusty told the MC how the diks were impressed with him kicking chad out … That alone would give him probally instant acces..

We did almost every hell week task possible... exept for that egg the preps thing...

We will get that jacket … we probally will go to were the hots are going to party or we will see some of the hots aka sage and or quinn the day after to discuss what happened..

But either way we will be in the dik frat if u guys like it or not

 

[Madness-101]

Take, for example @Holy Bacchus's idea that MC and Derek will be foreced to play-off against each other.

How is it his idea? Looks as if it is more speculation than anything else doubtful that will happen

 

[StarWulf]

I love how people are like I don't wanna get in the dik fraternity...

And I don't want that jacket.......

Its called being a dik … it focusses around that dik fraternity

The hell week discussion at this point is people copying and pasting messages from other users

Rusty told the MC how the diks were impressed with him kicking chad out … That alone would give him probally instant acces..

We did almost every hell week task possible... exept for that egg the preps thing...

We will get that jacket … we probally will go to were the hots are going to party or we will see some of the hots aka sage and or quinn the day after to discuss what happened..

But either way we will be in the dik frat if u guys like it or not

I just want Harem... and twelve kids with the Sagey one... And maybe more...

 

[lemonfreak]

And that's another thing; the room situation. If only Derek gets in, his room becomes available which would be a convenient way to give the MC a room. (Getting acccepted in to the DIKs would also conveiently get him a room, but if he doesn't he can still get one this way.) Although, for those on the M&J threesome route, I wouldn't mind continuing to stay with both of them, if for no other reason than to make sure they're not doing anything without the MC.

That was my point, both in that post and a followup, that sacrificing his spot in DIKs solves all of his problems. He can't stay with Sage forever, she's in her final year (although there are plenty of other tHOTs he can shack up with), he can't stay with Bella forever because she's college staff (and married) and living with Maya/Josy has obvious pitfalls going forward.

My point was that there's an easy solution to all of the potential problems and it's almost certainly the one solution that won't be offered to us as players.

How is it his idea? Looks as if it is more speculation than anything else doubtful that will happen

It's an idea and it's his, that makes it his idea

Whether it is speculation or insight into DPCs future plans is 100% irrelevant.