VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

That's a good image, and that's why I'm not satisfied with the present situation on the Josy/Maya path.
We know Josy and Maya are sharing true love ("I never stopped loving you" - "I never stopped loving you, either"), but there is no real love for MC (yet). I don't remember to have seen the word "love" between the girls and MC. They want both a real chance to build something stronger with MC, that's all we know.
So, what may happen, maybe not in episode 6 yet, but in a more or less far future ?
1/ the threesome goes on, and love's growing well between all characters ;
2/ the threesome explodes with several possible endings :
a) Josy stays with Maya ;
b) Josy or Maya stays with MC ;
c) big split and everyone goes on his own way.
For the story, the second situation (threesome explodes) may seem more plausible (for dramatic reasons, and we know DPC is really talented for that...), with appearance of some kind of jealousy... I imagine for instance a situation of sex/love between any two characters, surprised by the third, with a choice to make : "join them" (=> the threesome gain strength) or "be jealous/mad/angry/sad" (=> explosion)...
It's my feeling, but I've lost my crystal ball () so you may think differently !

"True love" might be a bit of a strong term because if it was that then they wouldn't have strayed from each other so easily and they both wouldn't seem to have very deep feelings for the MC after such a short amount of time. I agree that they do certainly love one another, but it feels like one of those naive teenage loves where it's mostly about being infatuated with the other person because being with that person makes them feel happy and good about themselves, but that love is shallow and not very strong.

The same could probably be applied to their feelings for the MC too, and it's why Maya said they should just be casual since maybe she's realised that these connections they have might not be as strong as they think and so it would be a good idea to take things slow and see if what they have is real.

As for how the relationship might go, I think your crystal ball is pretty spot on with the different directions as they're all the most plausible. It will be interesting if we get a happy throuple ending this time and I wonder if that and the potential separate paths will be based on more decisions like the one in ep 5, i.e. if you make more Maya than Josy choices then Josy will feel left out and your relationship with Maya will grow stronger, but if you make an equal number of choices for both then the relationship with both of them will grow stronger and they'll want to be in a throuple.

 

[Kodek]

I think that theory about Bella and Jill's sister being friends in college has been floating around for a while, but I'm not so sure about it after ep 5, namely because Bella's flashback revealed that she didn't go to B&R and I suspect that Jill's sister would have, what with her being a Royce. I suppose Jill's sister might have been more rebellious and went against her family's wishes by going to a different college, but I guess we'll see.

As for "hooking up" with her sister, this has come up as a way of possibly explaining why Bella might have done something with Jill; that in a moment of weakness and possibly intoxication, Jill reminded her of her sister and it led to a one-time thing between them. I'm also leaning in the direction that this thing that happened between her and Jill is what caused her husband to leave and is why Bella wants him to forgive her.

I thought a lot about why Bella and Jill are friends to begin with. I'm not saying they don't have anything in common or that they shouldn't be friends, it's the opposite really. It's just the age difference and Bella's overall behaviour and personality.

For me she wouldn't be Jill's friend unless she had somekind of connection with Jill already. Like being her sister's friend. That would make it easier for Jill to gain her trust if she already didn't have it. And it don't need to be a friend she met in college, that makes sense to me so i would go with that but it's not the only way.

Well, it's not really hard for me to see Bella having 'a thing' with Jill, Bella is not against being with someone younger than her as it was already seen with MC. But i don't really think Bella would simply let her urges get the better of her and just lay with someone a lot younger than her, especially if had her husband with her (Maybe he didn't took care of the sexual side of their relationship? Too overworked and focused on a carrer. It's a possibility), so i would go with Bella having that moment of weakness as you described and remembering the times she spent with Jill's sister. Jill probably took her sister as a rolemodel and try to behaves/looks like her, so that could've explain Bella's motive.

I really liked the idea Jill Royce gave, that Bella's locked room is her old room (Maybe even her parent's room? That could fuel some family drama stuff, not going to go there... yet). Mostly because i only saw ONE bedroom in the whole house, quite odd if you ask me. Thinking about why she would lock her own room, it fueled me to continue my thoughts about her and Jill's sister possibly being friends. And it's quite the refreshing theory, not being anything dark/tragic or cryptic just emotional.

Well, regardless of the possibilities, we still need to find the core about Bella's and Jill's friendship, probably will be linked to Jill being bullied in her child/teenager years or even the aftermatch of that stuff. We will see.

 

[Laurelin]

"True love" might be a bit of a strong term because if it was that then they wouldn't have strayed from each other so easily and they both wouldn't seem to have very deep feelings for the MC after such a short amount of time. I agree that they do certainly love one another, but it feels like one of those naive teenage loves where it's mostly about being infatuated with the other person because being with that person makes them feel happy and good about themselves, but that love is shallow and not very strong.

I agree with you, my words about "true love" were a bit strong... I imagined that with a teenager's point of view, for whom first love is always the strongest, the best, the unique one... I remember, myself.... But at that time, dinosaurs were still alive !

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I thought a lot about why Bella and Jill are friends to begin with. I'm not saying they don't have anything in common or that they shouldn't be friends, it's the opposite really. It's just the age difference and Bella's overall behaviour and personality.

For me she wouldn't be Jill's friend unless she had somekind of connection with Jill already. Like being her sister's friend. That would make it easier for Jill to gain her trust if she already didn't have it. And it don't need to be a friend she met in college, that makes sense to me so i would go with that but it's not the only way.

Well, it's not really hard for me to see Bella having 'a thing' with Jill, Bella is not against being with someone younger than her as it was already seen with MC. But i don't really think Bella would simply let her urges get the better of her and just lay with someone a lot younger than her, especially if had her husband with her (Maybe he didn't took care of the sexual side of their relationship? Too overworked and focused on a carrer. It's a possibility), so i would go with Bella having that moment of weakness as you described and remembering the times she spent with Jill's sister. Jill probably took her sister as a rolemodel and try to behaves/looks like her, so that could've explain Bella's motive.

I really liked the idea Jill Royce gave, that Bella's locked room is her old room (Maybe even her parent's room? That could fuel some family drama stuff, not going to go there... yet). Mostly because i only saw ONE bedroom in the whole house, quite odd if you ask me. Thinking about why she would lock her own room, it fueled me to continue my thoughts about her and Jill's sister possibly being friends. And it's quite the refreshing theory, not being anything dark/tragic or cryptic just emotional.

Well, regardless of the possibilities, we still need to find the core about Bella's and Jill's friendship, probably will be linked to Jill being bullied in her child/teenager years or even the aftermatch of that stuff. We will see.

I have a feeling that this season's main relationship drama is going to revolve around these two. They got so much exposure in this episode as we found out about Jill being a Royce, got a bit of Bella's backstory, saw that something might have happened between them, found out Jill and Rusty once dated, told Jill about the locked door and got her intrigued about it, nearly went all the way with Bella, and found out he'll have a class with Bella in the near future. Not to mention the fact that a lot of this happens even when you didn't stay with Bella in ep 4 or have a good relationship with her.

So it feels to me as though they might be something of a focal point this season like how M&J were a big focal point of the first season.

I agree with you, my words about "true love" were a bit strong... I imagined that with a teenager's point of view, for whom first love is always the strongest, the best, the unique one... I remember, myself.... But at that time, dinosaurs were still alive !

You never forget your first, and when you're that young it does feel like this person is your whole world and your one true love because you haven't learned what love really is. I guess we'll see how this goes for them, but I hope DPC doesn't crush another throuple just for the sake of drama.

 

[Laurelin]

I hope DPC doesn't crush another throuple just for the sake of drama.

I bet I have not been the only one traumatized by the choice to make between Megan and Melissa !!

 

[Mormont]

I really liked the idea @Jill Royce gave, that Bella's locked room is her old room (Maybe even her parent's room? That could fuel some family drama stuff, not going to go there... yet).

What kind of family drama do you think? disapproved of her husband? I think it's the first time I've heard of any family issues with Bella could make for an interesting plot if true.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I bet I have not been the only one traumatized by the choice to make between Megan and Melissa !!

Same. That's why I hope DPC doesn't do anything like that again just to spite all those people who criticised them for that. I don't think they'll kill anyone off again, but anything that's just as heartbreaking would be too much for me.

 

[Kz87]

Wanna make a top list of favorite swyper girls(only those whom we did not interact outside of this app):

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It would be great to interact with some of them in person. However, I do not want DPC to spend much time on them. Maybe, if he could hire someone else, who makes all side characters like swyper girls, feminists, and others(cafeteria girl), without interfering with the main storyline.

 

[Mormont]

I bet I have not been the only one traumatized by the choice to make between Megan and Melissa !!

That won't happen if so that would be a lack of ideas and would be disappointing if he goes down that route again sure there will be plenty of drama that could cause a twist in the tale.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

What kind of a theory is that? You're just assuming that it's the same boots (which is might be the case but people noticed that already earlier since it's kinda obvious). Then what? Why she's storing them in the locked room? Why not throw them away? What else in there?

I'd say she's storing there husband's belongings including his boots because simply cannot decide what to do with it and don't wanna stumble upon it every now and again either. It also would have obvious connection with asking Jill question about Bella's husband/door+Jill checking the door herself.

I'm thinking when the husband left after sometime Bella stored it all in that room perhaps Jill was the one that helped her decide and assumed that she'd got rid of all the husband's belongings only for them to end up in that locked room. Thing is Jill seems just as surprised to find that door locked when she tried it she says she knows Bella well but well enough to know what's going on in her head?

I really liked the idea @Jill Royce gave, that Bella's locked room is her old room (Maybe even her parent's room? That could fuel some family drama stuff, not going to go there... yet). Mostly because i only saw ONE bedroom in the whole house, quite odd if you ask me. Thinking about why she would lock her own room, it fueled me to continue my thoughts about her and Jill's sister possibly being friends. And it's quite the refreshing theory, not being anything dark/tragic or cryptic just emotional.

I'm sorta leaning towards the boots being hers now that it was brought up. My thoughts are that Bella's husband left her because she "matured" after she got married and that's not the person her husband fell in love with. So she kept her stuff from her "wild" life locked in there and is contemplating whether she wants to unleash the beast back into the wilds. Either that or it's the other way around, that she was "wild" until the husband cannot take it anymore and left. So now she kept her persona locked inside that room and became the ice queen and hoped that her husband would come back.

Holy Bacchus, was she asking for her husband's forgiveness or was it the other way around? I cannot remember which episode this part is.

 

[MrFriendly]

I don't see her in Gen Ed, but I see Dawe and Anthony. Is Dawe younger than her? MC did joke about his age with Sage though.

There's a scene where Quinn (I think?) said that the MC is more interested in someone taking Freshman classes and Arieth interjects and says that they are hard. Thus throwing herself under the bus. Might be only if you stay at Sage's, not sure where that was.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Holy Bacchus, was she asking for her husband's forgiveness or was it the other way around? I cannot remember which episode this part is.

Also, the previous 3 lines were these:



Seems like she's asking for his forgiveness for her being "intimate with a friend".

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

There's a scene where Quinn (I think?) said that the MC is more interested in someone taking Freshman classes and Arieth interjects and says that they are hard. Thus throwing herself under the bus. Might be only if you stay at Sage's, not sure where that was.

Maybe she was speaking from past experience? Cannot remember which scene.

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Then I remembered wrongly it seems.

 

[Mormont]

I'm sorta leaning towards the boots being hers now that it was brought up. My thoughts are that Bella's husband left her because she "matured" after she got married and that's not the person her husband fell in love with. So she kept her stuff from her "wild" life locked in there and is contemplating whether she wants to unleash the beast back into the wilds. Either that or it's the other way around, that she was "wild" until the husband cannot take it anymore and left. So now she kept her persona locked inside that room and became the ice queen and hoped that her husband would come back.

That's a very good possibility I hope it's something as simple as that and not something quite as dark but then again my mind keeps going back to that scene at the library which makes me think otherwise.

 

[MrFriendly]

Maybe she was speaking from past experience? Cannot remember which scene.

Nah, dude. She's dumb and it was definitely a "currently taking freshman courses" type of line and she threw herself under the bus.

As for the Bella thing, I hope that we get some more clues soon. I feel like there are too many mysteries piling up in the game.
1) Who do Quinn and Tommy owe money to each month?
2) Bella's husband
3) Who is blackmailing the jocks
4) What will happen with Maya trying to attend the school without her father's money?
5) The Letter to the MC
6) Who posted the rooster? (same as the blackmailer?)
7) All the relationship entanglements
8) Will Derek's dick ever recover after fucking Wendy and the old teacher.
9) Bella's locked room

I am sure I am forgetting a lot but this is a pre-coffee post.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

That's a very good possibility I hope it's something as simple as that and not something quite as dark but then again my mind keeps going back to that scene at the library which makes me think otherwise.

Hm.. too many facets to the problem. With Jill being Jill, I wonder if she will confront Bella about the locked door?

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

1) Who do Quinn and Tommy owe money to each month?

I think you can scratch Tommy of the question. Tommy pays Quinn, on time too I believe.

8) Will Derek's dick ever recover after fucking Wendy and the old teacher.

After the threesome with Jacob and Arieth, I wonder more whether Wendy and the old teacher get crabs.

 

[Mormont]

Hm.. too many facets to the problem. With Jill being Jill, I wonder if she will confront Bella about the locked door?

It's in her nature to be inquisitive so most likely she will talk to her about it. I think she'll have to be pretty casual about the subject though it's how will Bella react to that kind of question could be a concern.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Nah, dude. She's dumb and it was definitely a "currently taking freshman courses" type of line and she threw herself under the bus.

As for the Bella thing, I hope that we get some more clues soon. I feel like there are too many mysteries piling up in the game.
1) Who do Quinn and Tommy owe money to each month?
2) Bella's husband
3) Who is blackmailing the jocks
4) What will happen with Maya trying to attend the school without her father's money?
5) The Letter to the MC
6) Who posted the rooster? (same as the blackmailer?)
7) All the relationship entanglements
8) Will Derek's dick ever recover after fucking Wendy and the old teacher.
9) Bella's locked room

I am sure I am forgetting a lot but this is a pre-coffee post.

Let us not forget:

1. Who is Chad cheating with and is he gay?
2. What are Sarah and Melanie up to?
3. Did Vinny drop out or was he expelled?
4. Why was Ashley crying?
5. What caused Mona to storm out and will Quinn do something to her?
6. What's the deal with Sage and her family?

 

[ename144]

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Also, the previous 3 lines were these:

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Seems like she's asking for his forgiveness for her being "intimate with a friend".

But there's also this bit from Episode 4 if you make a move on Bella in the pool:

Spoiler: I Have Forgiven Him

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It seems pretty clear that, at least in Bella's mind, there were faults on both sides.

We have way too little information to make any meaningful speculation about just what happened with her husband. That said, Jill's reaction when the MC asks her about Bella's husband is interesting. It's clear Jill knows private details about whatever happened, and feels it would be wrong for her to share them with the MC, but also feels she couldn't properly explain the situation without revealing them.

Obviously, whatever happened between Bella and her husband is complicated, and Jill was either a participant or learned the details after the fact (probably as Bella's confidant).

Personally, I think it would be a mistake for Jill and Bella to have been lovers in the past, even briefly. It would be a literal repeat of the Josy/Maya twist, which is the last thing we need. I'd much prefer it if their friendship was platonic, or at least if any sexual contact between them was a one time thing that at least one of them genuinely regretted. That would at least give them a different dynamic once the secret is out.