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Noor Oneal

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Or it could be just an illusion of choice. Just like during the start of Ep2 when asked if you want to rise up as a DIK. If you say no they test you anyway. The money may end up being the same thing. Offered money? No. Tough sheet it's already in an account with your name on it. Use it or don't but its still there.
The thing with the DIKs was forced. And the issue with money can be forced too but why would it. If the rich family were to give money to the MC the family would want something back. Or they can just give him money and see what he can accomplish with it.
 

Cndyrvr4lf

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The thing with the DIKs was forced. And the issue with money can be forced too but why would it. If the rich family were to give money to the MC the family would want something back. Or they can just give him money and see what he can accomplish with it.
Because its a HUGE potential branching path. DPC would have to create 3 new paths for everything. #1 Took Money and used it, #2 Took money but didn't use it, and #3 Refused money. He would then have to create story for all of those plus all the branches with the girls. It would probably just be easier for him to force it to cut down on the branches he has to create for. We are getting to the point where the potential branches are going to get exponentially huge. Starting to get a lot of potential variables in here.
 

Noor Oneal

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Because its a HUGE potential branching path. DPC would have to create 3 new paths for everything. #1 Took Money and used it, #2 Took money but didn't use it, and #3 Refused money. He would then have to create story for all of those plus all the branches with the girls. It would probably just be easier for him to force it to cut down on the branches he has to create for. We are getting to the point where the potential branches are going to get exponentially huge. Starting to get a lot of potential variables in here.
That's true it would make more work for pinkcake. He has barely enough resources to make a episode, let alone 3 paths lmao.
fair point
 

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That's true it would make more work for pinkcake. He has barely enough resources to make a episode, let alone 3 paths lmao.
fair point
It get's even more complicated when you start to look at those 3 choices in depth. Does the money, if he takes it, change the MC? Does he become a Tybalt, Rusty, or somewhere in between. Those would have serious implications for the game. Might be more than DPC wants to bite off.
 

Noor Oneal

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It get's even more complicated when you start to look at those 3 choices in depth. Does the money, if he takes it, change the MC? Does he become a Tybalt, Rusty, or somewhere in between. Those would have serious implications for the game. Might be more than DPC wants to bite off.
True, It would seem that what ever is in the letter has to be forced. And i still highly believe it's the rich family.
 

ename144

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I beg to differ on Tommy. He is the biggest cunt in the frat, yes, and he is the VP - biggest cunt running shit. I personally like him a great deal, his Ep 5 meltdown notwithstanding, because he fulfills his role of the tribal asshole mentor figure so freakin well. Everything you mentioned where Tommy flings MC a shit sandwich is part of that role. He is a cunt to most everyone in the game xD

You also have to consider that Ep 5 was filled with events that shook Tommy's foundations - Quinn and HOTs betrayal, DIK mansion sacked, MC outshining him admittedly as well. Tommy is already low on agreeability as it is, is it any wonder he would be bitter after having all the above served to him in one evening?

Do we ever see Tommy treat MC with anything but hostility? YES, we absolutely do. And the fact that these events are sparse does not make them any less significant as you put it. They are evidence of Tommy's true character, in tandem with his default asshole demeanor.

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The thing about Tommy is that while he is definitely an asshole, it seems pretty clear there's nothing personal about it. Unlike Chad or Tybalt (who have an axe to grind with the MC in particular), Tommy is just a self-centered jerk in general. The only reason the MC seems to get more of it is because Tommy is in a position of power over him, and Tommy enjoys power whenever he can get it (hence why he sticks so close to Rusty).

So Tommy enjoyed making the MC suffer as part of Hell Week, simply because he could. But he'd also treat the MC with respect when he thought it. was merited (such as when he thinks he's hitting on Sage), and he never tried to kick the MC out. Even his epic whine at the end of Episode 5 is about how Rusty should make their problems vanish, not about the MC for suggesting they fix the problems themselves.

So I do think it's possible Tommy could seem a lot more pleasant to be around now that the MC is a DIK. His opposition to the MC's plan to rebuild the mansion is likely to be nothing more than Tommy bitching a lot about how long it's taking.

Now if Rusty is removed and Tommy takes over the DIKs, that might change things. Tommy would once again be in a position of authority, and would expect all the perks that come with it (while ranting over any shred of responsibility, naturally). Since the MC claims he's done with blindly executing stupid orders, that seems certain to end in conflict.

But would that be enough to make things personal with Tommy? Maybe. Consider Quinn. Her antics with Josy were specifically intended to piss off Tommy, and it clearly worked. Yet he still considered her his closest friend and confidant until she actually backed out of the deal with him and left then DIKs hanging. That was what it took to make things personal.

So my guess is that if the MC opposes Tommy, Tommy will be furious and take that anger out on the MC. But he will probably only cross the line if the MC actually disobeys direct orders, or tries to persuade other DIKs to do so. Then Tommy would do everything he could to remove the MC from the DIKs.

tl;dr Tommy will enthusiastically yell at the MC, but he will not take action against the MC unless he replaces Rusty as the president of the DIKs and the MC refuses to obey him.
 

Holy Bacchus

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I must say that this is a very interesting theory. If that happens, and the choice is left to us, it will have a big impact on the future of the game and how the DIK will resurface.
How would something like that even work though? Through one significant/Major choice or a sum of choices you've made throughout the game after having some time to think about an offer that will impact the kind of ending your MC gets?
If something like that were to happen, I'd imagine it would either be that the MC is given time to decide on what to do, i.e. until the end of the game, or he will simply be granted access to the money without any choice but can later decide (at the end) whether to keep it or shun it. Having it branch within the story would probably be too much as it would create two separate paths, but a few different renders and lines of dialogue with each of the LI endings would not likely be as much work.

In either case, whether he's given it automatically or has to decide what to do, having the people at the college find out about it would be interesting for the story as he could get both advice and pressure about what to do and it would be interesting to see how others react to it and what their attitudes are to both it and him when they find out.
 

Noor Oneal

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If something like that were to happen, I'd imagine it would either be that the MC is given time to decide on what to do, i.e. until the end of the game, or he will simply be granted access to the money without any choice but can later decide (at the end) whether to keep it or shun it. Having it branch within the story would probably be too much as it would create two separate paths, but a few different renders and lines of dialogue with each of the LI endings would not likely be as much work.

In either case, whether he's given it automatically or has to decide what to do, having the people at the college find out about it would be interesting for the story as he could get both advice and pressure about what to do and it would be interesting to see how others react to it and what their attitudes are to both it and him when they find out.
It indeed would be fun, The letter has to be the next big thing to push the story further.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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If something like that were to happen, I'd imagine it would either be that the MC is given time to decide on what to do, i.e. until the end of the game, or he will simply be granted access to the money without any choice but can later decide (at the end) whether to keep it or shun it. Having it branch within the story would probably be too much as it would create two separate paths, but a few different renders and lines of dialogue with each of the LI endings would not likely be as much work.

In either case, whether he's given it automatically or has to decide what to do, having the people at the college find out about it would be interesting for the story as he could get both advice and pressure about what to do and it would be interesting to see how others react to it and what their attitudes are to both it and him when they find out.
That would be somewhat interesting however, I'm certain a majority of people wouldn't care as they aren't close/friends with MC, and the only conflict I could see coming out of it would be Quinn trying to use MC as some sort of piggy bank for her own personal gain only to get rejected.
 

Holy Bacchus

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That would be somewhat interesting however, I'm certain a majority of people wouldn't care as they aren't close/friends with MC, and the only conflict I could see coming out of it would be Quinn trying to use MC as some sort of piggy bank for her own personal gain only to get rejected.
That's what I mean by "people at the college"; the DIKs, HOTs, Jocks, Bella, Jill, etc. Seeing how these people react to it is what would be interesting.
 

Zirael Q

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Quinn is a main girl, just not a love interest.

She's actually the 2nd most important character in the game after the MC. For example, the entire plot of Ep.5 derives from Quinn's decision to push the HOTs toward the preps and not telling Tommy/Rusty about it. The DIKs storming off, the adventures in the Prep mansion, the DIK house being trashed all flows from Quinn's decision.

One could take any one LI out of the game with some rewrites, but remove Quinn and BaDIK is an entirely different game.
haha Quinn bad brrr
 

Darkmetal

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True, It would seem that what ever is in the letter has to be forced. And i still highly believe it's the rich family.
I agree and think this makes he most sense, whatever happens as a result of the letter will likely be forced.
Forced is a strong word. Coming into money could just be part of the story, same as going to B&R - we didn't have a choice to not go to Uni either or not be a good guitarist etc. That's just baked in.

There is also nothing inherently "dishonorable" about getting money. People that win the lottery aren't bad, just lucky. Plenty of stories/movies have a protag getting an inheritance from a long lost relative they've never met, nothing wrong with that - until it turns out that the inheritance is a creepy old mansion with a book made of human skin in the basement that is :LOL: ).

There is no moral dilemma unless there are major strings/conditions attached. e.g. It could be that the heir to the "Buffet" fortune recently passed away and MC is the only blood heir of the family alive. Grandad decides he has no choice but to name MC as inheritor - but we will only get it on graduation - so the choices will pertain to how the MC behaves as a rich/influential guy on campus and not a lame game of "choose what to invest in."

Having said that, we don't even know if the letter involves money or not. The chances are high tho because it has been foreshadowed twice. First in our conversation with Jill (where we joke about her buying islands) and second in our conversation with Maya outdoors where she specifically asks what the MC would do if he came into money.
 

Noor Oneal

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Forced is a strong word. Coming into money could just be part of the story, same as going to B&R - we didn't have a choice to not go to Uni either or not be a good guitarist etc. That's just baked in.

There is also nothing inherently "dishonorable" about getting money. People that win the lottery aren't bad, just lucky. Plenty of stories/movies have a protag getting an inheritance from a long lost relative they've never met, nothing wrong with that - until it turns out that the inheritance is a creepy old mansion with a book made of human skin in the basement that is :LOL: ).

There is no moral dilemma unless there are major strings/conditions attached. e.g. It could be that the heir to the "Buffet" fortune recently passed away and MC is the only blood heir of the family alive. Grandad decides he has no choice but to name MC as inheritor - but we will only get it on graduation - so the choices will pertain to how the MC behaves as a rich/influential guy on campus and not a lame game of "choose what to invest in."

Having said that, we don't even know if the letter involves money or not. The chances are high tho because it has been foreshadowed twice. First in our conversation with Jill (where we joke about her buying islands) and second in our conversation with Maya outdoors where she specifically asks what the MC would do if he came into money.
I agree, I believe and also want the MC getting the inheritance. In a way he could be the only child of the family meaning the only one to get the inheritance. Seems everyone is on the same page of what the letter might be. Now it would be a huge letdown it it wasn't anything of this sort. But somehow i doubt it.
 
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