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Holy Bacchus

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Maya can't have redemption arc, because she doesn't need redemption in the first place! also Jill's fall would be more entertaining IMO.
It's hard to see at this stage how Jill can fall as she's the one character that doesn't seem like she's carrying a lot of baggage. If we're thinking that DPC is going to drop bombshells for each LI that make people go from liking them to disliking them, it's hard to imagine how they'd do that with Jill. :unsure:
 

Malicre

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It's hard to see at this stage how Jill can fall as she's the one character that doesn't seem like she's carrying a lot of baggage. If we're thinking that DPC is going to drop bombshells for each LI that make people go from liking them to disliking them, it's hard to imagine how they'd do that with Jill. :unsure:
Literally the only way they could make people dislike Jill is if they hooked her up with Tybalt.
 
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Holy Bacchus

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Not really.

Maya's problem is that she needs grow a spine and not go with the flow. She had a LOT of character progression till Josy came back into the picture.
Maya standing up for herself and bitch-slapping Quinn would easily be one of the best parts of this game. :D

I also feel that the reason she backslid a little in ep 4 and retreated back into her shell was because of the awkwardness of the situation, not simply because Josy was around. But after the discussion with the MC, especially if they all agree to "something more", she relaxes a lot and gets back to the Maya we saw before.

Literally the only way they could make people dislike Jill is if they hooked her up with Tybalt.
Or if she wasn't being completely honest about how far things went with Rusty. Some people I've seen also wouldn't be too happy if she and Bella did hook-up, even if it was only once.
 

lemonfreak

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Literally the only way they could make people dislike Jill is if they hooked her up with Tybalt.
I don't know if that's the only way, I'm currently in the middle of a Breaking Bad rewatch and something about the way Jill went to the professors about MC and Chad's fight feels i little bit of a Skyler thing to do. If Jill turns out to be a control freak then a lot of people are going to hate that (her scene with Bella where she shows contrition indicates otherwise)
 

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While i see Maya recovering, since she is very charming and cute.
That's subjective. If you think she is charming and cute, it doesn't necessarily make her "very charming and cute".
My theory is that a lot of Maya haters were actually her fans before 0.4
No? The moment she showed her hypocrisy and started lying like a gatling gun, it was over. Like many, many others. Just because we gave up on coming here and talking about the same nonsense doesn't mean the handful of people circlejerking each other here is the majority. This is just a silly thing you guys made up. People were trying to white knight the shit out of Maya until Ep 3. With Ep 4, most of those were done with her. It's simple as that. "Most" people were staying as far away from her as possible.
And if DPC estabilishes a solo route to her most will get back on the Maya train.
I think the word you were looking for was "some", not "most". Because many people gave up on her due to her lies. Not because of their poly relationship.
You yourself can keep defending her actions, her character. Make excuses for her "decisions", whatever. Just please don't assume what other people will do. It's getting ridiculous.
Just like irl, once you lose faith on someone, once you lose interest in someone, it's very hard to get that interest/faith back. Sorry
 

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hi, i have a problem on android version, i do all correct and the game starts normal, but in the moment at start de game when you are in the kitchen whit the father to preparete your date the game stay bug and i cant do nothing, the image stay white and I cant do nothing. Someone have a fix?
 

lemonfreak

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hi, i have a problem on android version, i do all correct and the game starts normal, but in the moment at start de game when you are in the kitchen whit the father to preparete your date the game stay bug and i cant do nothing, the image stay white and I cant do nothing. Someone have a fix?
It's a known bug with the Android version and no, there is no fix.
 

Malicre

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Maya standing up for herself and bitch-slapping Quinn would easily be one of the best parts of this game. :D

I also feel that the reason she backslid a little in ep 4 and retreated back into her shell was because of the awkwardness of the situation, not simply because Josy was around. But after the discussion with the MC, especially if they all agree to "something more", she relaxes a lot and gets back to the Maya we saw before.
I don't know as i dropped both of them at the end of chapter 3 since i don't like josy and you have to take them as a pair. Now hopefully as the game continues it will allow you bring 1 or the other back into the fold if you so choose to.
 
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Holy Bacchus

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I don't know if that's the only way, I'm currently in the middle of a Breaking Bad rewatch and something about the way Jill went to the professors about MC and Chad's fight feels i little bit of a Skyler thing to do. If Jill turns out to be a control freak then a lot of people are going to hate that (her scene with Bella where she shows contrition indicates otherwise)
Whilst I still say Jill did the right thing, I'd view it more as something that someone who's lived their whole life in a privileged bubble would do. Some people distrust authority figures because they haven't been treated well by them, but people in positions of privilege like Jill are treated better and so they have more trust and faith in them to help them out, and this is likely why Jill reported Chad.
 

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Literally the only way they could make people dislike Jill is if they hooked her up with Tybalt.
Oh god please no :sick::sick::sick: Anything but Tybalt being happy or successful in any meaningful capacity. I'd be okay with it if maybe it ends up being a Burke/Royce arranged date or something, that MC can easily do away with. But if based Jillian CONSENSUALLY kisses Tybalt, I shall riot.
 
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Whilst I still say Jill did the right thing, I'd view it more as something that someone who's lived their whole life in a privileged bubble would do. Some people distrust authority figures because they haven't been treated well by them, but people in positions of privilege like Jill are treated better and so they have more trust and faith in them to help them out, and this is likely why Jill reported Chad.
Also it's a personal issue to her. She was bullied and said herself she only acted in a way she wished people had done for her in the past. To me it's two things. Her motivation to do something whatsoever was her past experiences. How she went about doing that "something" was clearly a rich girls response. Had Jill not had her family's name she still would have wanted to help just wouldn't have had the clout to call a meeting of that size (with those people) at the drop of a hat.
 

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I think Maya will have the best redemption arc while Bella will have the biggest fall from grace and i never liked Josy anyways, even in the beginning, she just never clicked with me.
If DPC wants i can see a "Maya Redemption Arc", and if she gets a solo route again, a lot of her fans will come running back to her, so at least here she can get some more love, since at Patreon it seems they really never liked her much.

About Bella, unless she is revealed as a psycho killer or something really disturbing, i don't see most of her fans caring much. People on her route is already expecting the worst after her library scene, and if someone isn't, it's better to start now.

Speaking only for myself (as I generally tend to do ;)), I don't get that at all. Josy is smoking hot and there really isn't anything about her personality I dislike either. Maybe I'm just too generous and trusting a person, but even with all the dishonesty and her willingness to seemingly abandon Maya, the MC, and all her problems by running away to the other side of the country, I don't bear her any ill-will at all. Could I just be thinking with my dick? Perhaps, but it mostly feels like sympathy, that if she were someone I knew in real life I'd want to be there for her, make her happy, and treat her like a princess because I feel like it's what she deserves, her and Maya.

If she was as unpopular as you say, I can only imagine it had to do with her lack of screentime in the early chapters and people feeling like she ruined their thing with Maya by being her girlfriend, because other than that I don't see a single thing wrong with her.
Oh, she was unpopular, but not disliked. It was more in the sense that she wasn't "best girl" or have fans, etc... to a lot of people. Most posters would put Josy always in the middle of the road, because she was likeable, she actually has no flaws and even after 0.4, if you notice, people only hate on her because of the Maya situation, not because of her personality. Even in the looks department, i think she is the one closest to my "type", but her lack of screen time and because of how muted her presence in the game was, even now, she is seem more as a second fiddle to the Maya drama, made people just don't care about her.

That's why i don't see her going up in popularity much unless DPC really focus on her in some capacity. So i do see the possibility of Maya regaining her fanbase, but not of Josy creating hers.

Or if she wasn't being completely honest about how far things went with Rusty. Some people I've seen also wouldn't be too happy if she and Bella did hook-up, even if it was only once.
I can see something else. Maybe she is more of an elitist than she let's on and when the MC notices it, maybe it will rub him the wrong way? Some posts back you guys were talking about when she ratted out Chad to the College without the MC's permission. That was a breach of trust that shows that at some capacity she thinks "she knows better", for now we think that she is like that because she likes the MC and is stubborn, but what if, it's because, in some capacity, maybe even subconsciously, she views herself as "better" than him? That would be one hell of a flaw to tackle going forward, because it could be something that Jill herself don't think it's important or notice.
 
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Whilst I still say Jill did the right thing, I'd view it more as something that someone who's lived their whole life in a privileged bubble would do. Some people distrust authority figures because they haven't been treated well by them, but people in positions of privilege like Jill are treated better and so they have more trust and faith in them to help them out, and this is likely why Jill reported Chad.
No, she reported Chad because she doesn't like bullies. It seems everyone around campus has had enough of their shit. Has nothing to do with living in a bubble or being privileged. She went through it herself. Don't remember?
 

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Whilst I still say Jill did the right thing, I'd view it more as something that someone who's lived their whole life in a privileged bubble would do. Some people distrust authority figures because they haven't been treated well by them, but people in positions of privilege like Jill are treated better and so they have more trust and faith in them to help them out, and this is likely why Jill reported Chad.
That's certainly true.

But realistically speaking, from what Jill was aware of, the MC's inaction was kind of insane. The jocks started picking on the MC day 1; now a week later Chad has literally beaten him senseless. The MC can offer no reason for why this has happened, so obviously there's no reason Jill (or anyone else) can expect it to stop escalating, much less stop altogether. If the MC won't do *anything* to change the equation, I can't blame Jill for thinking she needs to intervene.

Obviously to us as players, sitting securely behind the screen and with a much better understanding of why this beating happened, Jill's actions don't really help. But I think our perspective tends to blind us to what Jill knew at the time.
 

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Also it's a personal issue to her. She was bullied and said herself she only acted in a way she wished people had done for her in the past. To me it's two things. Her motivation to do something whatsoever was her past experiences. How she went about doing that "something" was clearly a rich girls response. Had Jill not had her family's name she still would have wanted to help just wouldn't have had the clout to call a meeting of that size (with those people) at the drop of a hat.
100%. (y)

Oh, she was unpopular, but not disliked. It was more in the sense that she wasn't "best girl" or have fans, etc... to a lot of people. Most posters would put Josy always in the middle of the road, because she was likeable, she actually has no flaws and even after 0.4, if you notice, people only hate on her because of the Maya situation, not because of her personality. Even in the looks department, i think she is the one closest to my "type", but her lack of screen time and because of how muted her presence in the game was, even now, she is seem more as a second fiddle to the Maya drama, made people just don't care about her.

That's why i don't see her going up in popularity much unless DPC really focus on her in some capacity. So i do see the possibility of Maya regaining her fanbase, but not of Josy creating hers.
I do hope that each character (Maya and Josy) will get a chance to shine individually and they won't always be attached at the hip. We'll probably get this if we get more opportunities to hang out with them on a one-to-one basis like we did in ep 5, but at the same time I don't like the idea of having to choose to go with one or the other because then we'd miss out on these potentially nice individual moments that I feel would be necessary to show people the depths of these characters. Ep 5 already did that because both Maya and Josy have really revealing moments and Josy gets what is probably one of the best sex scenes so far, but you miss out on the other side and I feel it's important to see both in single playthrough.

I can see something else. Maybe she is more of an elitist than she let's on and when the MC notices it, maybe it will rub him the wrong way? Some posts back you guys were talking about when she ratted out Chad to the College without the MC's permission. That was a breach of trust that shows that at some capacity she thinks "she knows better", for now we think that she is like that because she likes the MC and is stubborn, but what if, it's because, in some capacity, maybe even subconsciously, she views herself as "better" than him? That would be one hell of a flaw to tackle going forward, because it could be something that Jill herself don't think it's important or notice.
I think the way she talks about how the possessions in her room don't matter much to her and the way she's so kind and warm-hearted to the MC show that she's not very elitist and seems to somewhat begrudge her standing a little bit. I'd say it's more like what mindern said in that it's both because of her past history of being bullied and that it's the typical response of a rich white girl to have full faith in the authorities to sort out a problem like this. Maybe she was even like the MC in terms of her bullying in that she refused help and it only got worse, so she knows what it's like to be that stubborn and it's why she felt like she was doing right by him.
 

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If DPC wants i can see a "Maya Redemption Arc", and if she gets a solo route again, a lot of her fans will come running back to her, so at least here she can get some more love, since at Patreon it seems they really never liked her much.

About Bella, unless she is revealed as a psycho killer or something really disturbing, i don't see most of her fans caring much. People on her route is already expecting the worst after her library scene, and if someone isn't, it's better to start now.
Unless you're like me (and a handful of other people on here) who have a problem with infidelity. I was a fan of both initially but now I'm kinda "meh" about them. Maya is basically a hard pass for me now because I don't trust her at all. Whilst I accept the MC does and any storyline with her would work perfectly fine as far as me being a fan of her is concerned she's dead in the water because I don't trust cheaters and her circumstances for doing so only make it worse.

Similarly, Bella... up until Ep5 she was my second favourite LI. I was tentative about her reason for cheating on her husband or if it was even morally cheating at all (if he walked out years ago and they haven't spoken there's no relationship to cheat on IMO) but if it turns out the implication she's been hooking up with Jill is true it honestly ruins the entire character for me... but that's just me. I guess my point is any sweeping statements about how "fans" will react is kinda moot because different people have different priorities when it comes to why they like these characters.
 

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Oh god please no :sick::sick::sick: Anything but Tybalt being happy or successful in any meaningful capacity. I'd be okay with it if maybe it ends up being a Burke/Royce arranged date or something, that MC can easily do away with. But if based Jillian CONSENSUALLY kisses Tybalt, I shall riot.
Is tybalt a burke? i thought the only burke was that 1 random dude we saw back in like ch3/4 in the prep house. Would be weird if tybalt was a burke because that means jade's also a burke which means if the theory about the mc being a burke is true then he fucked his aunt, maybe that 3rd picture frame is a picture of his mom aka jade's sister.

Nah, that's too going too far even for me lol.
 
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