VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

"i don't need to be assured. i need you to stop to talking about it"

for me she talk about indiscreet / uncomfortable questions, not sex

At this point it is really matter of interpretation and I guess we all have our own. For me, it sounds exactly like the kind of conversation two people would have after they did something intimate in the past that they agreed they wouldn't let happen again, but then they find themselves in a similar situation to the one before and one person tries to defuse the tension by saying it won't happen.

ah this scene. i remember hoping for some kind of sleep shenanigans or something. we know Jill is a horny sleeper lol

Well, we don't know if Jill is consciously aware of her "sleep humping", and I'd say she probably isn't given that she let the MC sleep in her bed in ep 3 and if she knows she has that a tendency to do that then I don't think she would have let him in case she did it to him.

The conversation strikes me, as I said above, as one betweeen two people who have consciously done something with each other before, and where one person feels more guilty than the other.

 

[always86]

"i don't need to be assured. i need you to stop to talking about it"

for me she talk about indiscreet / uncomfortable questions, not sex

I think something happened between them the last time they shared a bed. We know Jill is a hugger, so it could be she dry humped Bella in her sleep. It could be something less sexual. Maybe Bella has night terrors and hit Jill.

The key lines are 'It's not going to happen again.' and 'It's not my fault, I was going to sleep on the couch.'

Whatever the issue is it happened before when they shared a bed.

I don't think at the moment that Jill would pry with Bella. She knows Bella's limits and advises MC not to ask the next day. She also isn't immediatly worried about Bella, it's not until MC points out the locked door that she gets concerned.

Is it 100% certain that it's sexual? No. But I think something more than an awkward conversation happened. Otherwise it would be something that came between them all the time and not just when they shared a bed.

 

[sassobello22]

At this point it is really matter of interpretation and I guess we all have our own. For me, it sounds exactly like the kind of conversation two people would have after they did something intimate in the past that they agreed they wouldn't let happen again, but then they find themselves in a similar situation to the one before and one person tries to defuse the tension by saying it won't happen.

I agree with you, it seems something that they did in the past that bella is uncomfortable talking about, and now that they have to share a bed together jill wants to assure Bella that the thing that happened last time won't happen again. I understand also that the last time she was going to sleep on the couch maybe to avoid something that, in the end, happened.
In conclusion i think that Jill and Bella had a sexual experience the last time they slept together.

 

[AzulaTitsLover]

At this point it is really matter of interpretation and I guess we all have our own. For me, it sounds exactly like the kind of conversation two people would have after they did something intimate in the past that they agreed they wouldn't let happen again, but then they find themselves in a similar situation to the one before and one person tries to defuse the tension by saying it won't happen.



Well, we don't know if Jill is consciously aware of her "sleep humping", and I'd say she probably isn't given that she let the MC sleep in her bed in ep 3 and if she knows she has that a tendency to do that then I don't think she would have let him in case she did it to him.

The conversation strikes me, as I said above, as one betweeen two people who have consciously done something with each other before, and where one person feels more guilty than the other.

here's to hoping pal

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I think something happened between them the last time they shared a bed. We know Jill is a hugger, so it could be she dry humped Bella in her sleep. It could be something less sexual. Maybe Bella has night terrors and hit Jill.

The key lines are 'It's not going to happen again.' and 'It's not my fault, I was going to sleep on the couch.'

Whatever the issue is it happened before when they shared a bed.

I don't think at the moment that Jill would pry with Bella. She knows Bella's limits and advises MC not to ask the next day. She also isn't immediatly worried about Bella, it's not until MC points out the locked door that she gets concerned.

Is it 100% certain that it's sexual? No. But I think something more than an awkward conversation happened. Otherwise it would be something that came between them all the time and not just when they shared a bed.

It feels sexual, though. The way they look at each other, the expressions on their faces, the way Bella abruptly turns away with a guilty look on her face, and Bella's words, "I thought we had an understanding". How many times has a line like that been used in films and TV shows where one character starts coming on to another who pushes them back and says, "Hey, I thought we had an understanding?" It's like the universal scriptwriters line for, "these 2 characters hooked up before but agreed not to do it again."

If it doesn't turn out to be something intimate, even if it was just making out, then it's a massive misdirection.

 

[Alfagrem]

Jill: "Is something wrong?"
Bella: "No. Nothing's wrong."
Jill: "If you say so."

Jill: "It's not gonna happen again."
Bella "..."
Bella "I thought we had an understanding."
Jill "We do. That's what I wanted to assure you of."
Bella: "I don't need to be reassured. I need you to stop talking about it."

So what is 'it' that is not going to happen again?

I reckon its Jill honeytrapping freshman, slaughtering them after sexy times and having Bella forced to slice them up and store them in barrels of lye behind the locked door in her apartment.

 

[sassobello22]

I think also that in that room there's something that will allow us to understand something more about that conversation.
In my opinion in the next chapter we will be able to enter, maybe secretly, in that room and ther is my theory.
The locked room was the room of Bella's housband that passed away. She don't want to disrespect his housband than she isn't happy when the MC try to seduce her, because she knows she has needs, but she wants to remain faithful (I know that maybe someone has already said a theory like this or same as this, but i didn't read a lot of posts in this thread, only the latests)

 

[Ennoch]

I reckon its Jill honeytrapping freshman, slaughtering them after sexy times and having Bella forced to slice them up and store them in barrels of lye behind the locked door in her apartment.

So lewd! When can i get in on the action!! Threesome and murder! I can think of a few fellow schoolmate i'd easily pull an American Psycho on. ♪..its hip to be square!..♪

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

Jill: "Is something wrong?"
Bella: "No. Nothing's wrong."
Jill: "If you say so."

Jill: "It's not gonna happen again."
Bella "..."
Bella "I thought we had an understanding."
Jill "We do. That's what I wanted to assure you of."
Bella: "I don't need to be reassured. I need you to stop talking about it."

So what is 'it' that is not going to happen again?

I reckon its Jill honeytrapping freshman, slaughtering them after sexy times and having Bella forced to slice them up and store them in barrels of lye behind the locked door in her apartment.

I genuinely think something like this could've made it into the game but now DPC isn't going with it because so many people are expecting it. Or maybe it's still coming because now everyone thinks it's just a joke. Oh no...

 

[Jacob the Third]

Anyone feel like Jill might've went a bit further with the MC if they were at a different location

She could fuck the MC right there but no DPC wanted to blue ball us.

 

[chocolatemilkgames]

So doing a full chick run then you mean? Then yes you'll miss the restaraunt. Lilly can be got in the party even with a chick run.

But different strokes, I don't need to nail everything with 2 legs to have fun in a game. I play for the story, not for the sex. So mileage varies I guess as to what is enjoyable on which affinity playthrough. As for general interections, well yeah I guess, if you like acting like a dik with the associated dialogue then chick route will be less interesting,.

But ask yourself this, what if DPC does different things for diff routes? Can do all of Sages stuff with chick affinity, all you miss out on are a few RP's. How important they become (utterly pointless currently with exception of MJ picnic scene) remains to be seen. I have saves for a few characters with different affinities. Maybe Sages best content in the future will come from chick route as like many women in the world, after being treated like crap from a dik suddenly realises and appreciate the long-term stability of a chick.

Worth doing a chick run imo (or a couple for your fave LI's)...sooner or later the RP system for all the girls has to come into effect. Chasing Jill on dik affinity and the RP comes into play? Kiss that chance goodbye. There also certain scenes that can only be seen with chick affinity.

I mean, it's not about banging everybody or being an asshole, no need to be so pedantic and dismissive (sex and what happens both before and after can be just as important to a narrative anyway). The MC seems to enjoy his time with Hell Week and getting to know people in general a lot more on the dik route excluding a couple of characters. Regardless, the MC can still be genuinely kind and helpful on the DIK route, it's just the route where he's a little more open to doing things. The DIK route isn't about being a literal dick to people, and it seems to me like the point of the game so far is that whether your polite or crass, you'll never be able to win over everybody (and in fact he has better relationships with all of the HOTs in general on the DIK/neutral route.)

 

[ExDeath730]

I mean, it's not about banging everybody or being an asshole, no need to be so pedantic and dismissive (sex and what happens both before and after can be just as important to a narrative anyway). The MC seems to enjoy his time with Hell Week and getting to know people in general a lot more on the dik route excluding a couple of characters. Regardless, the MC can still be genuinely kind and helpful on the DIK route, it's just the route where he's a little more open to doing things. The DIK route isn't about being a literal dick to people, and it seems to me like the point of the game so far is that whether your polite or crass, you'll never be able to win over everybody (and in fact he has better relationships with all of the HOTs in general on the DIK/neutral route.)

Some people here seen to have a good and evil idea in the chick and DIK scale.

For me, they're more akin to the Paragon-Renegade or Open Palm-Closed Fist of Mass Effect and Jade Empire. They're not about good and evil (i mean, we're just a dude in colege), but more of a way to view and deal with life, choices and problems.

 

[ename144]

If I may offer my two cents on the issue regarding the Sage-Chad relationship and DPC 'not changing stuff'. Whether DPC wants to or not the way he has written the Sage-Chad relationship he has set himself up for failure. And a lot of it is due to him kowtowing to the demands of the small 'vocal' fraction of the anti-NTR group.

Sage's motivations for her relationship with Chad are not clear. The reason their romance fizzled out isn't clear. Sage's reasons for trying to salvage the burning ship of their relationship aren't clear. Why Chad would willingly cheat on Sage if their partnership was so crucial is not clear.

The simplest way out of this would be to not listen to the irrational part of the anti-NTR'ers and show Sage and Chad to be mildly affectionate (sort of stuck in a routine, in a rut). Maybe their sex is less than adequate due to the ED or the fact that he exhausts himself cheating on her. Show it. Tell the goddamn audience that. Hell! show it in the past and don't acknowledge that it is happening in the present. Then enter MC and the 'magic baseball bat' and in due course of time Sage realizes that MC is a better fit for her (Pun absolutely not intended). Initially start off a 'fwb' arrangement between the two. But as Sage realizes that MC is much more a 'boyfriend material' than Chad she starts to see him less and less and eventually breaks up with him. The breakup could be drawn out and may be contingent on whether MC becomes DIK president (say).

But in its present state why any sane woman would think her relationship with Chad needed saving is beyond me. I hope the explanation for why she found a pair of knickers in his bag does not turn out to be that he is into cross-dressing.

I agree. This is why I was so disappointed to see Chad was even more dismissive of Sage in the Episode 5 flashback.

Prior to that, it was easy to think of scenarios where Sage would be reluctant to give up on Chad. But after watching her moon over an utterly disinterested Chad, it's pretty hard. Honestly, it's unclear if they ever even had a proper relationship to begin with, or if Sage is just a deluded fangirl.

It was a big disservice to Sage's character. Hopefully, it will eventually get cleaned up by further revelations (sort of like the infamous Maya/Josy kiss on their friendship route), but it would have been much better to paint a better picture the first time around.

 

[derek.is.the.key]

how likely is the Jill Bella threesome?

Maya/Josy threesome first, then we'll talk

 

[Roelandt]

Mona is one of my favorites:

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MonaaaaaAAAAAA! So Gorgeous!

 

[ename144]

Some people here seen to have a good and evil idea in the chick and DIK scale.

For me, they're more akin to the Paragon-Renegade or Open Palm-Closed Fist of Mass Effect and Jade Empire. They're not about good and evil (i mean, we're just a dude in colege), but more of a way to view and deal with life, choices and problems.

I think that was the idea, and it's a good one. But I think the system bit off more than it could chew and wound all over the place. It's hard to find simple rules that can make sense of the whole thing.

 

[Roelandt]

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Now that's just funny. Well played Darkdevil.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I can't be the only person here who finds it hilarious that a girl whose appearance was most likely a one time thing and will likely never appear ever again for the rest of the game has a fanbase, right?

The harder it is to obtain, the more people will want it.

 

[ratttta]

The harder it is to obtain, the more people will want it.

Everybody likes the underdog.

 

[ename144]

Everybody likes the underdog.

Well, except KRJ. She doesn't like conflicts OR dogs!

Ironic!