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I'd argue it actually gave her character some depth outside of just 'party girl to fuck'.
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Whereas I'd argue it replaced one cliche with another. Instead of being the prom queen (a role she had started to grow beyond), Sage is a the loser fangirl. Yay.
But honestly, I don't think either of our interpretations is correct. DPC isn't trying to imply Sage is a subtle metaphor for abusive relationships nor a self-deluded romantic. He still thinks she's the ultimate party girl that all the guys want:
Which is a problem because - as far as we have been shown - Sage hasn't had a guy *ACCEPT* her advances in two years (and counting, if the MC snubs her, too)! That's why I say it undermines her character, because it's pretty clear we're not supposed to notice how utterly nonsensical her relationship with Chad is.
The weird part to me of the whole Jill/Bella situation is that in a house that size, there's not a spare bedroom? There's a weird upstairs study (with a huge couch) a Yoga room, a Sauna, and probably more that I'm forgetting but no spare beds?
Like, I understand the actual meta reason for it (DPC needed them to share a bed for and for Jill to leave to go to the couch to move the story forward) but if that house existed in real life there would absolutely be a spare bedroom, if not two or three.
Like, I understand the actual meta reason for it (DPC needed them to share a bed for and for Jill to leave to go to the couch to move the story forward) but if that house existed in real life there would absolutely be a spare bedroom, if not two or three.
I don't know what you mean. Sage had a life before Chad, she could have been quite popular in HS. And besides that she probably had guys all over her in those two years, even if she stayed faithful and had guys hitting on her all these years. I can believe she doesn't know what is to be rejected or having a guy not hitting on her.
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I would assume a couple of the other rooms were bedrooms at one point and since she lived alone (or even when she lived with her husband and had no kids) those rooms were turned into a gym and possibly a study/home office (we don't know what sort of room the locked room is).
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This is way better than my theory that Derek is actually the twin of MC's father, making him his uncle
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Yes its the same model, the irony is Maya says they're twins, and then you meet Johnny boy. Also the MC's dad is also Derek's model, lol.
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Who exactly would have been hitting on her in the last two years? We've seen how ballistic Chad goes at the appearance of infidelity (while not caring a jot about Sage herself). We've also seen the jocks remember the MC because he was "making a move" on Sage. That strongly implies that random guys do not throw themselves at her very often, otherwise the MC wouldn't stand out.
This is further backed up by the way Jacob reacts if you make out with Sage at the party. Despite being in a private party, he will force the MC to knock it off and tell him it is a mistake in no uncertain terms. Even Tommy is impressed simply because the MC intends to bed Sage. There's no reason for that respect if guys are constantly propositioning her, not when the MC hasn't done anything with her yet.
Now you could say that was all because the MC was too public; hitting on Sage happens all the time, it's just done in secret. That could explain why the jocks don't normally notice it, and why Tommy was impressed. Fair enough. What it wouldn't explain, though, is Sage. Again:
She isn't saying guys don't hit on her, she's saying guys don't normally turn her down. Well, unless we believe she's had a long string of other fuck buddies before the MC, we know the last two guys she threw herself at - the MC and her own boyfriend! - turned her down. Repeatedly.
I don't think Sage had a string of affairs; her own actions (and those of the other HOTs) suggest the opposite. So how can she still see herself as irresistible? Beats me. She may have been popular in high school, true, but that just means she should recognize she's in a long dry spell now.
That's why I think this is just sloppy writing by DPC. He wants the drama that comes from Sage being in a relationship, but refuses to show such a relationship. Maybe he's worried about NTR, maybe he wants to keep Chad from seeming sympathetic, who knows. I just know the way Sage is presented does not match the events we have seen, and at no point have any of the characters in the story acknowledged that dichotomy.
What a long post to basically end up agreeing with me. A woman knows when she's desired, when guys look at her... I don't mean she has to reciprocate those feelings. I think she's a loyal person, despite being a cheater right now. I doubt she has done anything with anyone besides Chad. The point is, she's still hot and she knows it. The other point is she might have had a couple relationships before that. Maybe fooling around with one guy one day (doesn't even have to mean sex). It doesn't have to be many, it can be a couple. But if she knows guys are interested in her and every time (as many or as few at they might have been) she initiated something the guy reciprocated is enough for her to say that.
Maybe DPC does it that way to avoid NTR complaints, that may be the case. But I think he is trying to make us empathize with Chad to an extent, but we have to know what he's hiding first. Him being gay would accomplish both things.
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I think the simple answer boils down to DPC worrying about NTR claims if he were to show Sage being intimate with either Chad or others in the past and is choosing to roll with the inconsistency it presents (unless he does end up addressing it and proves me wrong).
When it comes to girls the MC can fuck (specifically the side girls & secondary characters) we never see them having sex with other guys, past or present and at best it would only be mentioned like Tommy remarking how good Riona is at giving BJ's, Jamie saying he hooked up wit her last Friday or however it was. Camila is more or less a literal prostitute but we won't see her with a guy that isn't MC. Envy/Nicole is a stripper who does extra for paying customers but we don't/won't see that. Jade & Stephen are married with a kid but we won't see them fucking because she hates him, convenient for the player right?
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for secondary characters it's not that it makes a lot of sense narratively to show us whether or not they have sex with others.
except if there was a situation in which MC directly witnessed it, which is still quite difficult
instead for LIS it may be that DPC has applied a kind of self-censorship
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm waiting for the Jade and Cathy threesome personally.