VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

That's not likely to happen anyway and it's not what I'm saying when I refer to her potentially seeking his help.



This is pretty much what I've been saying and how I look at it. Quinn's in over her head, and we the audience/player have seen signs that she knows this but continues with the tough girl act. So if Quinn or others are put in harms way because of her actions, a CHICK MC will want to help her if it means protecting others and Quinn to an extent since not liking her doesn't mean he would want to see her harmed.



Blackmail's certainly a possibility and definitely something Quinn is capable of, so I could see that happening. But even if his "help" were to start off in such a way, there's still scope for a softening of the relationship to the point where a DIK/CHICK choice can be made.

Overall though, I just don't have such harsh feelings towards Quinn as some others do and I understand that people like this aren't always bad people. Majority of the time, people like Quinn just need to be shown there's another way and to be given the support and compassion to better themselves which is why I really hope we see something like that for her.

I'm not particularly fascinated by Quinn.

but until her motives are clear to me, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

 

[xsssssssss]

however, there are two other possibilities.

Quinn could blackmail MC into helping her (there are many possibilities: the relationship between Maya and Josy, some MC adventure ...), in that case Chick or Dik would make little difference

and finally, if at that moment MC had access to family money (which one?), the help could simply be financial

I hope the blackmail possibility isn’t one he pursues as i’m Sure that would end very badly for her, though i’m Not sure that’s worse than changing her very nature of a chick conversion fantasy.

If we have family money I guess there could be varied options of the purpose of any financial help.

 

[AchedCroissant]

BTW where is the twins?

 

[felicemastronzo]

I hope the blackmail possibility isn’t one he pursues as i’m Sure that would end very badly for her, though i’m Not sure that’s worse than changing her very nature of a chick conversion fantasy.

If we have family money I guess there could be varied options of the purpose of any financial help.

what blackmail are you referring to?

it wouldn't be a conversion to Chick, too radical and making Quinn's character useless.
But at the moment Quinn is a real criminal, which is beyond being a negative character. get rid of the drug issue, her position would normalize enough.

I know it is my personal position, but I still believe that the restaurant issue is more serious for us than for DPC

 

[felicemastronzo]

BTW where is the twins?

Derek and Maya, which in fact everyone confuses

 

[AchedCroissant]

Derek and Maya, which in fact everyone confuses

Oh right I forgot xD yeah i remember I says to Maya them she have the good genes

 

[murphy88]

You will have to dump her in most routes, eventually.

Never!

 

[Holy Bacchus]

what blackmail are you referring to?

it wouldn't be a conversion to Chick, too radical and making Quinn's character useless.
But at the moment Quinn is a real criminal, which is beyond being a negative character. get rid of the drug issue, her position would normalize enough.

I know it is my personal position, but I still believe that the restaurant issue is more serious for us than for DPC

The one you suggested. You said Quinn could maybe blackmail the MC into helping her, with what we don't know, but it's a possibility.

I also find it amusing that some people (not saying you) think the possibility of Quinn turning a corner and becoming a slightly different character at the end would somehow "ruin" her character, as if she can't still be an edgy, provocative little minx, without also being a drug dealing pimp. "Saving" Quinn doesn't mean turning her into Mother Theresa, it would just be about resolving and removing those issues that are the worst parts of her character, but her personality can remain intact, albeit perhaps a bit softer than before.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The one you suggested. You said Quinn could maybe blackmail the MC into helping her, with what we don't know, but it's a possibility.

I also find it amusing that some people (not saying you) think the possibility of Quinn turning a corner and becoming a slightly different character at the end would somehow "ruin" her character, as if she can't still be an edgy, provocative little minx, without also being a drug dealing pimp. "Saving" Quinn doesn't mean turning her into Mother Theresa, it would just be about resolving and removing those issues that are the worst parts of her character, but her personality can remain intact, albeit perhaps a bit softer than before.

sorry

I thought he was referring to a particular reason for the blackmail

 

[xsssssssss]

what blackmail are you referring to?

it wouldn't be a conversion to Chick, too radical and making Quinn's character useless.
But at the moment Quinn is a real criminal, which is beyond being a negative character. get rid of the drug issue, her position would normalize enough.

I know it is my personal position, but I still believe that the restaurant issue is more serious for us than for DPC

Your scenario of her blackmailing the Mc.

Mc uses drugs, so I don’t see why her dealing is real criminal beyond the pale. He may take it in some puritanical way but I certainly hope not. I don’t see the dealer being the major big bad but I guess we’ll see. Restaurant attempting to involve li’s i don’t think he’s not going to take non seriously.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Your scenario of her blackmailing the Mc.

Mc uses drugs, so I don’t see why her dealing is real criminal beyond the pale. He may take it in some puritanical way but I certainly hope not. I don’t see the dealer being the major big bad but I guess we’ll see. Restaurant attempting to involve li’s i don’t think he’s not going to take non seriously.

I wouldn't want to make a too serious speech, but personally between a joint and a syringe there is a big difference.
the joint on the roof is an acceptable nonsense, dealing hard drugs is criminal and very dangerous.

on the restaurant I know that my position is questionable, I will probably be wrong as I have often done.

on the involvement of LIs in the restaurant: in the end we talk about Maya (Josy seems very unlikely to me). narratively it could also be interesting but it would be too dramatic a turn which I don't expect

 

[Maviarab]

I wouldn't want to make a too serious speech, but personally between a joint and a syringe there is a big difference.
the joint on the roof is an acceptable nonsense, dealing hard drugs is criminal and very dangerous.

on the restaurant I know that my position is questionable, I will probably be wrong as I have often done.

on the involvement of LIs in the restaurant: in the end we talk about Maya (Josy seems very unlikely to me). narratively it could also be interesting but it would be too dramatic a turn which I don't expect

Agreed. I also won't make a big speech, I'd upset a lot of people in this thread given i imagine most are from the States (and the game seems likely set there also). I will say though there is one hell of a difference between taking and dealing.

Resteraunt I have no opinion on as long as the girl is doing what she is doing purely out of her own free will. (by that I mean 'purely'...not she is doing it of 'free will' but only because she needs her next fix etc. Think escort, not prostitute).

As for LI's, unless (as HB and I have said before) the 'corruption' and 'ntr' tags suddenly appear....then it isn't happening, not going to happen and it's pointless drama for something we already know isn't going to happen. It might start to (for more drama), but we will be make sure it doesn't get that far.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Agreed. I also won't make a big speech, I'd upset a lot of people in this thread given i imagine most are from the States (and the game seems likely set there also). I will say though there is one hell of a difference between taking and dealing.

Resteraunt I have no opinion on as long as the girl is doing what she is doing purely out of her own free will. (by that I mean 'purely'...not she is doing it of 'free will' but only because she needs her next fix etc. Think escort, not prostitute).

As for LI's, unless (as HB and I have said before) the 'corruption' and 'ntr' tags suddenly appear....then it isn't happening, not going to happen and it's pointless drama for something we already know isn't going to happen. It might start to (for more drama), but we will be make sure it doesn't get that far.

already with NTR I am more confused than before ... apparently in games if there is no Mc it is always NTR

what is strictly meant by the "corruption" tag?

in the Hentai field (the only one I know) would correspond to a permanent change in the "morality" / "sexuality" of a character

it does not necessarily go that far

 

[xsssssssss]

I wouldn't want to make a too serious speech, but personally between a joint and a syringe there is a big difference.
the joint on the roof is an acceptable nonsense, dealing hard drugs is criminal and very dangerous.

on the restaurant I know that my position is questionable, I will probably be wrong as I have often done.

on the involvement of LIs in the restaurant: in the end we talk about Maya (Josy seems very unlikely to me). narratively it could also be interesting but it would be too dramatic a turn which I don't expect

we don’t know what the harder drugs are or what angle he’s going for. Unless it’s a puritanical angle, all drugs is bad, it should be ok for to still be selling it if people are still smoking it

Restaurant is a house of cards that’s going to fall on her head regardless of whether girls make it to the menu.
Bad husband who also abuses position to pay for sex with students isn’t likely to not explode.
Plus You’ve Ashley who feels like a maya li setup ending for Derek, who is being involved.

 

[felicemastronzo]

we don’t know what the harder drugs are or what angle he’s going for. Unless it’s a puritanical angle, all drugs is bad, it should be ok for to still be selling it if people are still smoking it

Restaurant is a house of cards that’s going to fall on her head regardless of whether girls make it to the menu.
Bad husband who also abuses position to pay for sex with students isn’t likely to not explode.
Plus You’ve Ashley who feels like a maya li setup ending for Derek, who is being involved.

for the restaurant it will have that function: to generate small dramas and crises between the different characters (Ashley, Mona, Burke ...). but without ever exploding into a great scandal.

in the real world they would close college BR ...

 

[Maviarab]

already with NTR I am more confused than before ... apparently in games if there is no Mc it is always NTR

what is strictly meant by the "corruption" tag?

in the Hentai field (the only one I know) would correspond to a permanent change in the "morality" / "sexuality" of a character

it does not necessarily go that far

Lot of confusion over it's meaning...basically as far as we are concerned, any character we have an interest in, doing something with someone other than us.

Which is exactly what would apply to Maya whoring herself out yes?

It definitely won't go that far. We will stop it long before that plot wise regardless of what path/LI we're interested in.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Never!

If you only plan on playning one route then sure. If you plan playing other girls' routes it will eventually be an issue.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It definitely won't go that far. We will stop it long before that plot wise regardless of what path/LI we're interested in.

Yeah, that's why I said in a previous comment on this subject that all the discussions around Maya potentially being driven to join the menu are moot because when she finds out about it she won't do it, and enough time will likely pass in the game that her character develops more and there would be no need of her to do such a thing anymore, and also that Quinn's operation will more than likely be gone by the end so there would be nothing to join anyway.

 

[Old Man From Scene 24]

So my computer died and i lost everything, how do i unlock all the gallery scenes?

 

[Warrior2853]

is this another game where you have no freedom to move and can only press the z or enter button just to read