VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[AchedCroissant]

Assumming she didn't lie on her Swyper profile ('cause there's no precedent for that in the game is there? )

When Derek calls her old she tells him she's have 30

 

[ChipLecsap]

Assumming she didn't lie on her Swyper profile ('cause there's no precedent for that in the game is there? )

how dare you! but she does not look older than 30.

 

[lemonfreak]

When Derek calls her old she tells him she's have 30

And no woman in the history of the world has ever lied about her age

how dare you! but she does not look older than 30.

Neither does Bella imo. In all seriousness, I believe that she probably is telling the truth about her age (although knocking 2 or 3 years off would be understandable in her job).

 

[flippityflop]

This is an aspect of non-NTR adult games that will likely never change: everything is rigged in favor of the MC and he can get away with much more than anyone else.

Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

When Derek calls her old she tells him she's have 30

I mean.. she could be lying about it consistently but nah, I don't see much point to it in BaDIK since the MC is already into 40+ year old teachers. I suppose if she is lying about it and it's revealed then it could be a CHICK option to reassure her that she doesn't look a day over 30 and maybe even a DIK option to mock her saying he's fucked women that were even older than her.

 

[Malicre]

I mean theres still a chance that this game gets some kind of pseudo NTR in the form of Bella's husband. If he returned it wouldn't be NTR because your not going steady with Bella but people would call it that anyways.

 

[ChipLecsap]

And no woman in the history of the world has ever lied about her age

Neither does Bella imo. In all seriousness, I believe that she probably is telling the truth about her age (although knocking 2 or 3 years off would be understandable in her job).

She does not look much older than them, if they are between age 18-21, Envy can easily be 28 even.

Even with the MC at her side, She easily can be seen as His Girlfriend.

Bella does looks older than Envy , in my opinion, 33-35.

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

I mean theres still a chance that this game gets some kind of pseudo NTR in the form of Bella's husband. If he returned it wouldn't be NTR because your not going steady with Bella but people would call it that anyways.

Doesn't mean they'd hop right into bed if he returned. He'd be an obstacle for us, sure, but not necessarily a rival. Sage has a bf and players tolerate it because the most intimate thing they've done as far as we know is a kiss on the forehead.

Bella does looks older than Envy , in my opinion, 33-35.

Bella's age isn't really up for speculation. There's no exact date given in-game but she does mention that her OMG sorority initiation was roughly 18 years ago so she can't be far off from 36.

 

[Warped77]

I mean theres still a chance that this game gets some kind of pseudo NTR in the form of Bella's husband. If he returned it wouldn't be NTR because your not going steady with Bella but people would call it that anyways.

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

 

[AchedCroissant]

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

Or Zombie

 

[ItsNotMeToo]

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

Or Zombie

What's to say that her husband didn't cheat on her / leave her, or that perhaps she did? Didn't she says she 'forgave him' or something along those lines?

 

[Jackie123]

soo has there been a new status update? havent been in this thread for quite a time now.... also couldnt find it with the search bar btw..

 

[Cabin Fever]

I'm quite sure Bella's husband only left but isn't dead. She's alluded to "when will he return?" at least once. This being DPC, something that important can't be a mistake.

 

[Warped77]

What's to say that her husband didn't cheat on her / leave her, or that perhaps she did? Didn't she says she 'forgave him' or something along those lines?

I'm quite sure Bella's husband only left but isn't dead. She's alluded to "when will he return?" at least once. This being DPC, something that important can't be a mistake.

I agree... I was just joking because of the 'dead husband' theories. Relax.

That said... if she was crazy enough to murder her husband with an axe, she certainly could be crazy enough to be in denial about it...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

 

[flippityflop]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

 

[Warped77]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

My assumption is that if there will be consequences for all the MC's whoring around (at least in the form of very, very angry LIs) we'll get fair warning first. So far, we've had no indication from any of the girls that the MC needs to stop 'dating around'. Maya and Josy give the MC a free pass while they're 'exploring' whatever the throuple is going to turn into, Jill and the MC talk about the fact he's seeing other girls before the tennis date, Sage obviously isn't going to throw a fit at this point since she's trying to pretend that its purely a sexual relationship, and Bella... well... Bella is a married woman, so she doesn't really have a leg to stand on as far as the MC being 'faithful' once they reach the point where they get physical.

At some point late in the story we may have to choose one relationship (monogamous or polyamorous), and at that point I'd expect the girls to make it very clear that they expect the MC to be faithful. If he's not after that, then, yeah.. bring on the consequences. I just don't see us being 'blindsided' with consequences before that point. Hell, you're probably right that even after a fair warning, the consequences might not be that severe because... porn game... but the various good/bad relationship endings of AL make me think otherwise.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

starting from the premise that in these games the concept of "perceived" NTR seems to be a very diluted version, it seems to me practically impossible that the game can end without it.

if MC fails with Maya and Josy there will be 99% NTR (not 100% because I believe the couple could break out anyway, but I remain humble)

if MC fails with Bella there will most likely be NTR

if MC fails with Sage there will probably be NTR

at present only with Jill there is no risk of this scenario, but the suitors are not lacking

and personally it also seems right to me, otherwise the girls we don't care about or with whom we fail should disappear into oblivion

 

[Warped77]

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

I'm pretty sure Bacchus was talking about the relationship consequences in AL, not 'the choice' (which we get it... you hate). More relevant is whether you bang the bar sluts, the nurse, and/or your ex. At the end, the LI you're with finds out... some get upset about it, some don't, and with certain girls it can lead to exactly what you're talking about, with your chosen LI doing precisely what you said... 'telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants'.

So, DPC has absolutely already set that precendent.

The Derek thing I could absolutely see happening, too... and yes, it would bet a total gut-punch, especially if you chose him to stay with in Ch4.

 

[xsssssssss]

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

I’m curious to see degree of choice impacts outside of who MC ends up with.