VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Warped77]

now I don't remember if it depends on the path followed but MC can tell Derek that he feels something for one of the two girls or that he doesn't care anymore

I contest that this answer must be written in stone and be so decisive

it's our choice what to answer to Derek, why do we have to trust Derek?

then I understand that 99% I am wrong, and that otherwise it would be indicated "hide the truth from Derek"

I still don't get what 'trusting Derek' has to do with anything... do you mean 'telling Derek the truth'?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Because He is his best friend?! it is a way for player to confirm his decision. If it's Rejection, well then your earlier decision set you to that direction in the first place. In that regard, I do have to admit I don't have knowledge, I was not rejected, so I dont know how and what way the conversation with Derek changed , but it is not excluded it will have effect in that way too for the future. and that is the purpose of the conversation, I assume.

you are almost certainly right

but Derek is also Maya's brother, in real life would you confess quietly to the brother of the girl you are interested in in such a complicated situation?
we suppose you're interested in Josy, would you tell Derek you're going to try to take the girl away from his sister?


previously Derek, rightly, between defending his sister and being honest with MC, he chose the former

 

[ChipLecsap]

Derek tells you that Maya told him what happened, and he directly asks you if you're okay or if you still have feelings for either. You can answer 'feelings for Maya', 'feelings for Josy', or 'Neither'. I agree that this dialogue option might be very important for possible relationship scenarios moving forward, potentially opening or closing off romance paths. It does seem early for that to happen... but it sure seems structured that way.

aham, so this conversation is basically the same whether you are Rejected, or You are the one who chose to be just friends?! Regardless, the conversation as you said, and I said, seems to be important for the future.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I still don't get what 'trusting Derek' has to do with anything... do you mean 'telling Derek the truth'?

easy example

I'm interested in Josy, would telling Derek I'm interested in his sister's girlfriend would be a wise move?

I in real life would keep it to myself

but not even because I can trust Derek or not, but because I would put him in a difficult position.

 

[Warped77]

easy example

I'm interested in Josy, would telling Derek I'm interested in his sister's girlfriend would be a wise move?

I in real life would keep it to myself

but not even because I can trust Derek or not, but because I would put him in a difficult position.

I definitely get that, and I agree in real life. But, since this is a game, it certainly seems like a convenient spot to put a 'decision point' in. I'm not saying that it definitely was... but it could have been. Only time will tell.

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

easy example

I'm interested in Josy, would telling Derek I'm interested in his sister's girlfriend would be a wise move?

I in real life would keep it to myself

but not even because I can trust Derek or not, but because I would put him in a difficult position.

Keeping it a secret is the exact move that will destroy the trust and relationship between the MC and Derek. Sooner or later the truth comes out and it will seem like a weak and shady move - which it is. Derek might not approve of the MC and Josy as long as there's hope for M & J together but being honest about it sure as hell beats lying about something that will inevitably surface at some point.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I definitely get that, and I agree in real life. But, since this is a game, it definitely seems like a convenient spot to put a 'decision point' in. I'm not saying that it definitely was... but it could have been. Only time will tell.

but I also think it's as you say

until now when we decide to hide the truth from MC it is explicit in the choices

I just don't see such a linear transition

 

[AchedCroissant]

So if Envy tells you that he is going to give you a gift but you have to go to his house

Me

 

[felicemastronzo]

Keeping it a secret is the exact move that will destroy the trust and relationship between the MC and Derek. Sooner or later the truth comes out and it will seem like a weak and shady move - which it is. Derek might not approve of the MC and Josy as long as there's hope for M & J together but being honest about it sure as hell beats lying about something that will inevitably surface at some point.

correct, but assuming that if MC tells the truth it cannot be Derek who betrays his trust

if Derek is a saint, it is normal that lying to him is wrong

trusting is always a risk, and Derek in the story is not only MC's friend but also Maya's brother, and this second aspect is getting the upper hand

I'm being devil's advocate huh

 

[ChipLecsap]

easy example

I'm interested in Josy, would telling Derek I'm interested in his sister's girlfriend would be a wise move?

I in real life would keep it to myself

but not even because I can trust Derek or not, but because I would put him in a difficult position.

I don't know if I should tell you this, or how to tell you this but this is a GAME, not real life. Derek is there on that moment, for collecting data about the player decisions.

but to properly answer, I need to know Derek response if you say you are interested in Josy,. He can easily see in that way, if Josy is willing to break up with Maya for somebody else, then Maya is better off without her, But Derek, not intervening in Maya relationship to much, both Maya and Josy, cheated, an they forgiven each other. It does not mean it can't have consequence for the MC and Derek relationship. but Derek pretty much know the whole story, he is in a tough position, so it's more than likely He stay out of it.

if MC dating Maya, and then cheat on her or hurt her in anyway , now that is a difference story, where Derek can hold accountable the MC, but for Josy's actions, he can't hold the MC responsible, in that scenario its Josy who eventually hurt Maya. Derek can easily see from this perspective. More or less, because he also know the History, between Josy and the MC.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I don't know if I should tell you this, or how to tell you this but this is a GAME, not real life. Derek is there on that moment, for collecting data about the player decisions.

but to properly answer, I need to know Derek response if you say you are interested in Josy,. He can easily see in that way, if Josy is willing to break up with Maya for somebody else, then Maya is better off without her, But Derek, not intervening in Maya relationship to much, both Maya and Josy, cheated, an they forgiven each other. It does not mean it can't have consequence for the MC and Derek relationship. but Derek pretty much know the whole story, he is in a tough position, so it's more than likely He stay out of it.

if MC dating Maya, and then cheat on her or hurt her in anyway , now that is a difference story, where Derek can hold accountable the MC, but for Josy's actions, he can't hold the MC responsible, in that scenario its Josy who eventually hurt Maya. Derek can easily see from this perspective. More or less, because he also know the History, between Josy and the MC.

I know I know



I don't remember what I made MC answer and I'm looking for a hope of not having fucked up

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

correct, but assuming that if MC tells the truth it cannot be Derek who betrays his trust

if Derek is a saint, it is normal that lying to him is wrong

trusting is always a risk, and Derek in the story is not only MC's friend but also Maya's brother, and this second aspect is getting the upper hand

I'm being devil's advocate huh

I doubt Derek would actively sabotage the MC's advances towards Josy if he knew about his plans. His main problem with the MC flirting with Maya was knowing that anything they do together will be cheating, he admitted this early in EP4. As long as these plans aren't about making one of them cheat on the other but to simply present the MC as an alternate option, it should be fair game.

Maybe I'm expecting too much rational thinking from a guy who seems to have physical pain from the thought of wearing a t-shirt in a place of higher education but I'll be royally pissed if I'm forced to hide the MC's intentions until they might break up on their own.

 

[flippityflop]

We had that in AL too when Leah reveals all the stuff the MC has done with other girls and it obliterates any chance at a relationship with Megan or Melissa, and that didn't go down well either.

Upsetting the established order of the MC's life and essentially giving players a "jerk MC" ending, even if he has objectively been a bit of a jerk, is a low blow for people who want to have a little bit of their cake and eat it too. Even if they can't get everyone, they at least want to get someone and without having a massive blowup with the ones they don't get. It may not accurately reflect real life, but it's not meant to and that's what makes these games so appealing.

It's pretty obvious DPC doesn't follow the established adult VN formula. He proved that with Acting Lessons and now he's doing the same with Being a DIK. Why do you think (or rather hope) it will be different this time?

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

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As I would like an ending with Envy, it is a pity that DPC surely won't give it to us.

#DPCmakenicoleamaingirl

 

[Yeeep]

10 minutes into the game and i get a crash :

While loading <'Image' u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png'>:
File "game/scripts/classes/english101/english_test1.rpy", line 156, in script
$ result = ui.interact()
File "game/scripts/classes/english101/english_test1.rpy", line 156, in <module>
$ result = ui.interact()
Exception: Could not load image u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png': error('Failed to decode WEBP',)

Any idea what might cause this ?

 

[lemonfreak]

10 minutes into the game and i get a crash :

While loading <'Image' u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png'>:
File "game/scripts/classes/english101/english_test1.rpy", line 156, in script
$ result = ui.interact()
File "game/scripts/classes/english101/english_test1.rpy", line 156, in <module>
$ result = ui.interact()
Exception: Could not load image u'images/classes/math101/math_cheat.png': error('Failed to decode WEBP',)

Any idea what might cause this ?

Which version are you playing? This is a known bug in v0.5.0 and v0.5.1 but is fixed in v0.5.2. You can tell the version from the title screen,

 

[SPACE_BOOOOOST]

It's pretty obvious DPC doesn't follow the established adult VN formula. He proved that with Acting Lessons and now he's doing the same with Being a DIK. Why do you think (or rather hope) it will be different this time?

"Hope" is the better word, yeah. And it's because people can learn from their mistakes. Flipping the formula completely just for the sake of doing the exact opposite of what most would expect is just as brainless as following it to the letter.

Just to be clear, I have zero problems with possibly devastating consequences of the MC's actions - as long as I have at least some control over them. So far, the MC cannot be faithful to just one LI, the game literally pushes him into the arms of others. As soon as that changes, getting caught and punished is 100% fair game. Until then, I don't want to hear about any moral high ground from anyone - let alone DPC - telling me "well you shouldn't have done that" because I FUCKING DIDN'T.

 

[Yeeep]

Which version are you playing? This is a known bug in v0.5.0 and v0.5.1 but is fixed in v0.5.2. You can tell the version from the title screen,

0.5.2

This is the compressed version i just downloaded

 

[lemonfreak]

0.5.2

This is the compressed version i just downloaded

Ah, you always need to be careful with the compressed versions, they come with a warning for a reason, they're unofficial and generally come with a warning about possible game breaking bugs, something that is missing from the most recent one unfortunately.

I always tell people to play the full version if they can.

 

[Yeeep]

Ah, you always need to be careful with the compressed versions, they come with a warning for a reason, they're unofficial and generally come with a warning about possible game breaking bugs, something that is missing from the most recent one unfortunately.

I always tell people to play the full version if they can.

Darn. I got the compressed one because the full version will take like 5 hours to download with my third world internet