An example is Recreation is it says that you are not obliged to be patreon and it uploads its games here and in Discord it is so friendly with everyone I do not say that DPC should be like it but not everyone can afford to pay Discord every month or you have to wait two years for each version on Steam
Especially given the context of how it was mentioned:And Banning your pateon supporters. that so stupid.You just give then a warning and tell them don't mention f95. I feel like this game gonna flop in season 3.
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True lot of people lost their jobs due to COVID-19. Some of us struggling paying there bills. Before COVID Buy the game from steam and i was bout to be a patreon but COVID hits. and the country I'm living in is in turmoil.
people are just lazy ... or stupidAnd Banning your pateon supporters. that so stupid.
Why you so afraid of a site that you promote?Especially given the context of how it was mentioned:
"I discovered your game on F95 and now I'm a patron paying you $15 a month"
"You are banned from my Patreon"
"WTF?!
It's not like the guy was telling people to come here, but maybe that's what DPC is so afraid of, that if people who are patrons that don't know of this place find out about it just by the mere mentions of it they'll stop being patrons since they can get the game without paying for it.
TBH who read the rules? Its like reading the terms and agreement.
And? Outright banning someone because they mentioned where they first discovered the game is an extreme reaction. A little slap on the wrist warning and telling them not to do it again would have been more than sufficient. I'm a patron of Radiant and I posted a patron-only 4K render in the thread here, but Sir Dammed didn't ban me, they just sent me a message on Discord to not do it again and I won't because they asked. DPC went too far in banning this guy.
I just did. My eyes didn't melt, my brain didn't explode. Imagine that.
Well, to be fair, let's put some context into that direct DPC post. That post was made waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day when DPC was still semi-regularly visiting here, well before he got fed up with whatever reason he had in his mind and left. People are allowed to change their mind as time and circumstances evolve. To use that ancient quote now to criticize his current stand is a little disingenuous.
The fact that a person didn't read the rules doesn't absolve them from the responsibility of following the rules.
I think so he is banning people now because he doesn't want to lose money because his discord is basically patrons (that don't know about F95) only and they might switch over to F95 to play his games for free instead of paying. He will basically make less money if people don't buy his patron anymore.
Banning you from Discord is one thing. Banning you from Patreon is fucking stupid. I get that he wants people to pay for the game. You cheapskates on here should all at least buy on steam.
I get that there are probably thousands of people who use the link here to get the game for free. They should all buy on steam or toss his Patreon $10. But it’s not a coincidence that this thread has had over 2k pages in 2020 and 700 since the last episode went live. Meanwhile his Patreon more than doubled. It’s the only platform with a truly active community discussing the most recent version of the game. His Discord (like most discord channels) is dull and all it seems to be is a series of people saying good morning and good night.
Regardless off if the rules should have been read, it’s a stupid rule and even If it were a sensible rule it’s still stupid to ban him from Patreon and not just discord. Now what choice does he have but to become part of the problem.
Are you on his Discord? If so had you read them before this conversation?
Agree with you on Discord. Blocking the dude on Patreon is like not letting a guy into a strip club because he lives in a ghetto thoughHe doing it because this is his day job, He's actual Job. You would not be happy if you would work for free . so cut the bullshit, He does not owe anyone anything for free, He has a private, exclusive discord, a VIP room, if it's more simple for you , He own the palace, he makes rules there, and if you break it, your kicked out. Not knowing the rules does not give you free pass!!!
in this VIP room, He not tolerate, piracy talk in any form. and HE is not an asshole for it. HE is an independent developer, investing his own money to make something , It's not asshole move of him for not liking that if its spreading around free.
He could take legal action against this site with among many other developers , But he doesn't, because he is not asshole and not fool, He knew that in some degree piracy can be beneficial, "the word of mouth" is a powerful tool . everyone can be a potential buyer.
But in his own VIP place, he not tolerating this. while the privacy can be beneficial in some degree, in a case of an independent, solo developer, its also can be very very hurtful. The game is out here literally the moment he uploads it, now imagine it if everyone stop paying for it because it's free.
Yeah, that for a person like him is devastating.
for EA, ubisoft, or even Hollywood, hundreds or thousands pirate, is still nothing, and yet they are the one who are greedy!
I'm sorry but I think you guys are wrong here, vast majority of us here are playing the game for free. The least we can do is not talk shit about the Developer, regarding of this way.
it is an active place because of the same users, and with usually the same old conversations. it is not much of a different form a discord, but instead of "good morning ". we saying the same stuff over and over again
hey man it is what it is."But it’s not a coincidence that this thread has had over 2k pages in 2020 and 700 since the last episode went live. Meanwhile his Patreon more than doubled. It’s the only platform with a truly active community discussing the most recent version of the game "
Dude really?. this place usually have the same 20 user, plus- minus , some newbie time to time, asking about the next update. Jill, Royce user, itself, post 10-15 post a day, with the same Jill photos all the time.
I don't think this place can be seen as a measure.
as for how much he makes , we don't know,. and we don't know how costy the game is , and top of that his real life expense. so we don't know the actual profit, peoples here assume he is swimming in money like Dagobert , but I honestly doubt it.
and because of this assumption there is an obvious bitterness feeling toward him. therefore some people's take any small controversial just to make a negative opinion of him.
as long as he does not allow patreon to dictate how the story progress, I dont care about this minor issues!
