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I find it funny that in the flashback picture you have shown Jill looks much older than in the present.... she's like in her 30s' or something.


I saw a few pages back, someone saying Sage's father neglected her. I don't remember that being said in the game. We see that Sage wants nothing to do with him but neglect from him ?


As for Quinn. Yeah she is an interesting character. Don't like her both inside and out though. She's like the 3rd least beautiful of the HOT with Sarah second ( she's so plain) and Helena first( ugly to boot)

Watching all those tier lists. Almost everytime heather is at the bottom, why is that?
She's not my type but I do think her gorgeous, and despite her very little apparition time I find her interesting.
 

ename144

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Because Quinn is a character perpetually in the grey moral and legal area, she is also the most polarizing.

At a glance what with her being a pimp, drug dealer and possessing a mean streak she ticks all the boxes of your run of the mill antagonist. This is where many people write her off as the hellspawn sent to torture MC and MJ, enslave the HOTs and cast out Sage.

She is also easily one of the best written characters, and that depth in addition to her looks makes people at the other end really like her despite her flaws.

Her personality may not be to everyone's taste and that's perfectly fine. What I honestly don't see is how Quinn can be termed "a truly despicable piece of scum" as you put it, because while she has all the boxes which on the surface would indeed sway her image in that direction, if you really look closely at her actions, and the actions of other characters involved, she is not even objectively evil by a long shot given what we are privy to at this point in the story.

Her prostitution operation seems to be entirely consensual and voluntary, she does not coerce every HOT to join as they all seem to be ok doing it and even Mona backing out suggests she has that option in the first place. Time will tell how she handles that ofc, but it's not like she's sex trafficking her sisters - they can choose to sign up or not as far as we can tell. Same goes for Maya, it's normal for Quinn to be hazing her and so far she's totally oblivious to her restaurant meaning Quinn has not brought it up. Her omitting to dispel the free tuition rumor is not a flattering sign to be sure and will have consequences, however how she handles what happens next still remains to be seen.

Her smoking and selling weed is a victimless crime as far as I'm concerned, however being involved with shady individuals, dealing and using heroin or whatever that's supposed to be, that is what worries me. It's also probably going to be a major plot point in the story, and as such it holds a lot of potential for "redemption" as well as "damnation". It's not set in stone and could really go either way.

In essence, the stigma associated with being a drug-dealing pimp with attitude is worse than pretty much anything Quinn has actually done so far in the story. Imo it's too early to objectively call her an evil degenerate at this time because as far as we can tell she always has the willing participation of other characters in her activities. I don't believe she in fact is evil, but only DPC knows what he has in store for his characters. She could eventually turn out to be every bit as bad as some people say, even if it's only one among many versions of Quinn depending on MC's choices. But calling her evil scum at this point in time seems to be entirely a function of one's bias towards her grey area activities.
Hang on, what makes Quinn grey? I'm not saying she's pure evil, nor that she's beyond redemption, but what has she done so far that could even charitably described as good?

To date, she's been consistently portrayed as a selfish schemer who abuses the trust of those around her and pisses people off as a hobby. The closest I can think of to her doing something kind for anyone is agreeing not to charge the MC for sex if he smokes weed with her on the rooftop. That's well short of grey in my book.

Maybe someday we'll see Quinn's good side. If so, I'll be happy to reevaluate her character based on what we learn. Until then, I don't find much ambiguity in her, nor do I find her particularly interesting.
 

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Hang on, what makes Quinn grey? I'm not saying she's pure evil, nor that she's beyond redemption, but what has she done so far that could even charitably described as good?

To date, she's been consistently portrayed as a selfish schemer who abuses the trust of those around her and pisses people off as a hobby. The closest I can think of to her doing something kind for anyone is agreeing not to charge the MC for sex if he smokes weed with her on the rooftop. That's well short of grey in my book.

Maybe someday we'll see Quinn's good side. If so, I'll be happy to reevaluate her character based on what we learn. Until then, I don't find much ambiguity in her, nor do I find her particularly interesting.
Exactly, Quinn is not a good person. Those who like her have to accept that.
 
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Exactly, Quinn is not a good person. Those who like her have to accept that.
We need to know more about her before we can really judge her. What we've seen is the public face of Quinn, the person she projects herself as, but we don't know the real Quinn yet and it could really go either way. She could be just as terrible and morally bankrupt as some people already believe her to be, or she could actually have a conscience and know that she's doing bad shit but there's a reason why she's having to do it despite this.
 

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We need to know more about her before we can really judge her. What we've seen is the public face of Quinn, the person she projects herself as, but we don't know the real Quinn yet and it could really go either way. She could be just as terrible and morally bankrupt as some people already believe her to be, or she could actually have a conscience and know that she's doing bad shit but there's a reason why she's having to do it despite this.
What hypocritical claptrap lol. Conscience...lol. Doesn't matter what her private face is like...doesn't counter-act her public one. A nice person doing morally and criminally bad shit...doesn't keep them a nice person. That person left when they started making choices. There is always a choice. Always. May not be good and/or ideal choices but there is always another way.

A loyal, loving father...who dotes on his kids and goes to church on Sunday..is still a reprehensible piece of shit if they conduct in the activities, pastimes and business that Quinn does.
 

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We need to know more about her before we can really judge her. What we've seen is the public face of Quinn, the person she projects herself as, but we don't know the real Quinn yet and it could really go either way. She could be just as terrible and morally bankrupt as some people already believe her to be, or she could actually have a conscience and know that she's doing bad shit but there's a reason why she's having to do it despite this.
yeah yeah Bacchus we're all well aware of how biased you are towards vaginas.
 
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Watching all those tier lists. Almost everytime heather is at the bottom, why is that?
She's not my type but I do think her gorgeous, and despite her very little apparition time I find her interesting.
I think it's because of her attitude. Plus Tommy has tagged that. Who wants that baggage?
 
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What I honestly don't see is how Quinn can be termed "a truly despicable piece of scum" as you put it, because while she has all the boxes which on the surface would indeed sway her image in that direction,
The delight she takes in torturing the mc with how she plans to corrupt maya shows exactly how evil she is. If she didn't want to be the piece of shit she is, she wouldn't take delight in hurting people, but she does.
 

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What hypocritical claptrap lol. Conscience...lol. Doesn't matter what her private face is like...doesn't counter-act her public one. A nice person doing morally and criminally bad shit...doesn't keep them a nice person. That person left when they started making choices. There is always a choice. Always. May not be good and/or ideal choices but there is always another way.
As I've previously mentioned before in this thread, I spent some years dealing with people from these walks of life, people who sold drugs, made drugs, did prostitution, were in gangs, etc, and on the whole I found them to not only be very misunderstood people with some fairly brutal and sympathetic life stories, but they were also some of the friendliest and most down to Earth people I've met.

They're just like everybody else in that they want to live a good life but sometimes life and other circumstances beat them down and they get forced in to doing bad things in order to survive, so I have tremendous sympathy for people like that and do not ever rush to judge them as bad people at their core until I know more about them.
 

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Quinn- She is definitely pretty much a template for bad girl.
I do not agree this makes her evil... nor undesirable. She is not amongst my favorites, but she certainly would share the younger Arigon's bed in college, pay or not pay. I would have bought her drugs as well. I was a bad boy in college. I was a bad boy until I ended up marrying an angel actually. Fatherhood and my sweet wife changed me.. But bad girls have always been my weakness. In any other lineup, Quinn would score higher for me.. But I do not think our poor bad girl is going to have a happy ending.. Why? because DPC is a DIK. It would be a story book ending for her to have a happy ending, still bad girl, but mellowed by the MC maybe... I do not see that happening. I think her popularity marks her for the bad ending that DPC seems to love delivering. If he makes Maya and Josy have an AL ending, he will lose followers by the thousands. If he harms Bella or Jill the same. Sage seems safe enough and should have a good ending, and I married a red head, should have rated her higher, but Bella WITH Jill would be my number 1, Bella second, Sage 3rd, Jill 4th and then the rest.... hope my wife doesn't read this.. She was Sage lol.
 

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Can anybody draw a clear theories scheme? I lost myself when I tried to go back and find status update.Shame on Dostoyevski.He is nothing compared to BaDIK theory makers.
 
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I would've never thought to see so many wonderful members of society with such high moral standards on an adult games pirate site, but here we are. Speaking of choices, unless we see Quinn directly blackmailing or holding a gun to their heads, you could say that they have made their choices to follow her orders. They could blow Quinn's cover but they haven't. Perhaps over the next few episodes well get to that, but until then, I'd say their choices have been far worse than Quinn's.
 

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We need to know more about her before we can really judge her. What we've seen is the public face of Quinn, the person she projects herself as, but we don't know the real Quinn yet and it could really go either way. She could be just as terrible and morally bankrupt as some people already believe her to be, or she could actually have a conscience and know that she's doing bad shit but there's a reason why she's having to do it despite this.
We've had five episodes and Quinn has featured prominently in all of them. We've seen plenty of her, both as the MC and in cut-scenes. That's more than enough to start judging her.

And my judgement is exactly what I said: she's a selfish schemer who abuses the trust of those around her and pisses people off as a hobby.

Even if we eventually learn she really is trying to help the HOTs with her schemes, that won't nullify the way she's gone about it. She tazes the MC for no reason. If the MC throws the CUM-petition to avoid being raped, she shoves the condom down his throat. When Riona points out the flaws in Quinn's plan, Quinn slaps her, then offers Riona as the bait to get money from the MC (assuming he's a customer). When Sage puts her personal feelings aside to set up the party with the preps, Quinn tries to guilt-trip Sage into humiliating herself even even further. She lied about getting money from the jocks - to say nothing of subsequently cheating them out of what they bought. When Tommy is pissed because Quinn couldn't be bothered to admit the HOTs were ditching, she immediately threw Riona under the bus.

How is that not enough of a track record to judge Quinn on? The fact that her actions so far have been relentlessly negative doesn't mean she's entitled to some sort of indulgence until she finally gets around to doing something decent!

As I said, I'm willing to reevalutate Quinn as the story goes on. I'd like to think there's more to her character too, but a) I'm not going to ignore the rest of her actions until then, and b) it won't automatically balance her ledger if and when it does finally happen.
 

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Because being entertained by porn and obtaining Vn's here (most of which are also freely available by the devs) really compares.....dear God.
Way to focus on the least important part, but as you've said to others here today, your response doesn't surprise me either.
 

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You know, it's kind of fitting that her name is Quinn because if we were to add the name "Harley" in front of it, then maybe people could better understand why a character who has done bad things is popular, but also that that character can change and maybe isn't as bad as they seemed.
 
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