It's not a lose, I don't think you've even understood my argument yet, because you still went with the "You're pissed because you have to choose" BS.Dude just take the lose . it's not a dik chick, good bad choice. the only thing what would go against a "your chick personality". if MC goes out with Jill, and don't even text to sage.
but seriously. you awfully try to force your own values to the MC..
No, You don't have a legitimate argument other than how you think this should be because you don't like it. it's like an SJW bitching about Cyberpunk 2077 not being Woke enough for her taste, therefore bad game.It's not a lose, I don't think you've even understood my argument yet, because you still went with the "You're pissed because you have to choose" BS.
It's not a lose, I don't think you've even understood my argument yet, because you still went with the "You're pissed because you have to choose" BS.
Hard to know without a clear insight into whole Quinn and Vinny respective business. But yeah, so far Quinn has just provided cheap products (weed, pills, Xanax) to a bunch of students. The coke was a first time. It's unlikely she intends to become a big dealer later. Considering she has her own drug issues, selling is maybe just a way to have direct access to the products.There's that line Buddy made about how if Quinn knew how Vinny was running his operations, she wouldn't be behind him in income. She just kept her mouth shut there, but I got the feeling from that interaction that she's intentionally keeping her operation small. Even the whole "six new sisters" putting a strain on her margins ended up being a little bit of a fakeout in that she always intended to fail Maya/Josy. So my guess is she's trying to not go all-in on the drug dealer/pimp life. She's keeping her operation small, so that she doesn't make big waves and keeps herself an unknown in the game. Using it for her own ends and then she's going to cut and run.
My two cents.
True. Except, if you are not in relationship with her, based on the text message you posted, in that case she handels it way better .The second scenario went a little poorly because Sage, being Sage, didn't handle it well. No surprise there.
- If the MC is a massive Chick, and feels empathy and loyalty to his first commitment - to visit his sick friend Sage - and has to tell Jill that he can't make it to her spontaneous outing, and explains it nicely to her and she feels a little disappointed but overall understands the situation. What is wrong with that?
- Alternatively, if the MC is a massive Chick, and feels empathy and loyalty to his first commitment - to visit his sick friend Sage - but desperately wants to go with Jill on this nice picnic she's organised, so he messages Sage that he'll see her a little later in the day to which she tells him to forget about it. What is wrong with that?
if you can't stand Derek, say it freely ....Ok, so after discovering that (through episodes 1-6) Jill's Relationship Points (RP) in the game do bugger all I thought I'd check up all the mains LIs RPs and their impact on the game.
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So we can currently say that the RPs do pretty much fuck all in this game at the moment.
That's not to say that the decisions the mc makes and the individual actions he takes don't have their own impacts. The RPs are a gauge of the actions he's been taking, but typically not a mechanism in their own right for controlling the game (exceptions being listed above).
The fact that I created this imaginary situation in my head, as you say, don't you think it could mean that something is "wrong"? Because those like you who don't see it that way, probably wouldn't see anything wrong either if the choice were presented the way we're saying it could have been presented. I wouldn't get an odd/ilogical vibe from it, neither would you, and we wouldn't be discussing this while all of us would still be conscious of the potential importance of the choice. But I think a CHICK-sided player is lead to feel bad about this choice. If that's the intention, then mission accomplished. If not, then someone made a mistake, and that one was not just me.Nobody is being penalized for anything.
Miniscule RP don't matter at this point. If choosing Sage causes a CHICK MC to lose Jill forever then you have a point
As if right now, you created an imaginary situation in your head, and are trying to argue from that standpoint.
Good to know , Josy best girlOk, so after discovering that (through episodes 1-6) Jill's Relationship Points (RP) in the game do bugger all I thought I'd check up all the mains LIs RPs and their impact on the game.
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So we can currently say that the RPs do pretty much fuck all in this game at the moment.
That's not to say that the decisions the mc makes and the individual actions he takes don't have their own impacts. The RPs are a gauge of the actions he's been taking, but typically not a mechanism in their own right for controlling the game's outcomes (exceptions being listed above).
if you are truly on a Chick path. You won't be with Sage at all . well at least, you won't be more than simple friend with her. and Chick will definitely tell her that "sorry but I don't want to get the disease from you".The fact that I created this imaginary situation in my head, as you say, don't you think it could mean that something is "wrong"? Because those like you who don't see it that way, probably wouldn't see anything wrong either if the choice were presented the way we're saying it could have been presented. I wouldn't get an odd/ilogical vibe from it, neither would you, and we wouldn't be discussing this while all of us would still be conscious of the potential importance of the choice. But I think a CHICK-sided player is lead to feel bad about this choice. If that's the intention, then mission accomplished. If not, then someone made a mistake, and that one was not just me.
As if right now, I know that behaving like a CHICK around Jill has always been the best option... except at the very first time she's directly involved, when the "CHICK" option (stay true to your word) means ditching her -> which leads to her not telling you about Tybalt, which leads to you not being able to tell her you want to fight for her, to help her and to prove him wrong. I don't know if this will be definitive but for sure it will drag her drama and maybe cause some consequences for her till we get another option (IF we ever get it) to tackle the issue. If we're interested in her, by making what feels another CHICK decision we're probably bound to a middle ground between the full disclosure about her problems with Tybalt (and ours) we get if we go with her, and the complete oblivion a DIK MC founds himself in in the path where she never comes to us for this picnic date. Only time will tell what the real consequences are and if this situation can be overturned, but I feel this as a penalty.
Trust me, I know this is a choice to show who I'm more interested in. I know it has nothing to do with affinity, it's just a "do you prefer Jill over Sage, or Sage over Jill?" in case you're still in both girls' path somehow. Because that's the flag that DPC sets in the code. I know that I can't bend reality to appease my wishes (which are NOT getting both girls in the same path, cause I know I won't have both and I understand the choice should be made at some point) but I would have expected the writer of the game to come up with a choice more consistent with the rest of choices presented during the game. That's when everything falls down for me: if I like Jill, I've been "led" during the whole game to make CHICK choices, and now I have to change that mindset to pursue her. Which I understand, I really do: sometimes, when the moment arises, you have to get your priorities right, take the chance and go for it. The thing is that my MC can't possibly know this is (let's say this can be) so important for his relationship with Jill. That's just it, I only want all of you to understand why it feels odd to me.
Tl; Dr: Honestly, I would be happy with at least someone who don't think this is a problem saying "in that situation, going to visit Sage as you promised would be the CHICKest choice"
Even if I'm just friends with her, I still would feel going with her as the CHICKest choice. About the rest, you're totally rightif you are truly on a Chick path. You won't be with Sage at all . well at least, you won't be more than simple friend with her. and Chick will definitely tell her that "sorry but I don't want to get the disease from you".
funny how this decision, is so controversial for some, but the idea of a "Chick personality MC" , being totally fine with the idea of Him using Sage as a Fuck buddy because, Hey I'm helping her feel good, while I feel good, despite she is clearly in love with someone else. that is somehow totally ok for a Chick personality MC, it's not controversial at all
She is not even the one who break up with Chad, its the other way around. if Chad at any point would have say : "Sage ,Honey I'm home, get on your knees ". Sage would have dumped the MC without a heartbeat, luckily for some. DPC was not brave enough to pull this off, or jerk enough, depend on the view
allow me to fix it for you
I think, the the CHICKest choice is to not even call her .Even if I'm just friends with her, I still would feel going with her as the CHICKest choice. About the rest, you're totally right
It's funny you say that, because you are the one without arguments and you keep strawmanning me at every post you make.No, You don't have a legitimate argument other than how you think this should be because you don't like it. it's like an SJW bitching about Cyberpunk 2077 not being Woke enough for her taste, therefore bad game.
I don't have any issues with 1, but I don't think it's in character for a CHICK MC to act like 2.The second scenario went a little poorly because Sage, being Sage, didn't handle it well. No surprise there.
- If the MC is a massive Chick, and feels empathy and loyalty to his first commitment - to visit his sick friend Sage - and has to tell Jill that he can't make it to her spontaneous outing, and explains it nicely to her and she feels a little disappointed but overall understands the situation. What is wrong with that?
- Alternatively, if the MC is a massive Chick, and feels empathy and loyalty to his first commitment - to visit his sick friend Sage - but desperately wants to go with Jill on this nice picnic she's organised, so he messages Sage that he'll see her a little later in the day to which she tells him to forget about it. What is wrong with that?
DPC said he didn't want people minmaxing RP points, so they will probably be used for this kind of stuff and leave important things to other checks.Ok, so after discovering that (through episodes 1-6) Jill's Relationship Points (RP) in the game do bugger all I thought I'd check up all the mains LIs RPs and their impact on the game.
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So we can currently say that the RPs do pretty much fuck all in this game at the moment.
That's not to say that the decisions the mc makes and the individual actions he takes don't have their own impacts. The RPs are a gauge of the actions he's been taking, but typically not a mechanism in their own right for controlling the game's outcomes (exceptions being listed above).
Why on earth not? Even if the MC never fooled around with Sage in the slightest, she just turned to him for emotional support after Chad dumped her. It's hardly unreasonable to call her to see how she's doing a few days later. The MC has no reason to think calling Sage would eventually impose on a major milestone with Jill during a future date she hasn't told him about yet.I think, the the CHICKest choice is to not even call her .