VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

I think Cathy's better looking then most of the HOT's imo

in my opinion Cathy has a very angular and mature face

in the HOTs you will find a bit of everything, it is as if they were a catalog of female types (red hair and freckles, Asian, punk, Latina, blonde bombshell ...)

another one I don't really like for her face is Heather, who I find masculine, but she has one of the best physiques.


but the sense was that they are all above the average beauty of reality, so choosing based on that doesn't make much sense to me

 

[BenMeiffert]

I definitely hope we get more Quinn in the future, I ended up more interested in her than in Sage this update.

Wow, you dislike the best one just because she's ill and heartbroken?! That's in these moments where a girl needs you and when you show her how much you care/like/love her. If Sage don't do anything sexual with MC, it's because they are fuckbuddies and now she's single, that would mean something else and she needs time after Chads broke up with her.

But i understand why Quinn grows on us : she becomes closer and shows some feelings and trust for MC in this episode. We learn a lot about Quinn's life too.

 

[rj677]

Technically, it's the second time, since you can only choose to follow Maya or Josy in Episode 5. Or the third, if you count staying with Bella or Sage in Episode 4 (you can sleep with Sage either way, but you can only get the activities in the respective pools by choosing that LI). Actually, it's the fourth time if you want to count choosing between dancing with Sage and family photos with Maya back in Episode 2.

It is the first time Jill has been involved in such a choice, I suppose. But I think that's mostly down to the fact Jill's romance has been such a slow burn.

You are totally right in what you said. The problem with my post was that I didnt express correctly what I wanted to express. My point was that Chick and Neutral paths can currently have every LI path open, so I like that the choices between LIs are getting put in the game with a higher frequency. So those MCs actually have a hard time choosing in those situations because they are on the path that "has everything".

I know that the DIK MC has a hard time choosing too, but in the DIK path the MC already faced rejection (even though you can go back and act all tough saying you just want to be friends with M&J ) and he already fucked a good amount of people outside of the LIs, so that choice doesnt mean "that much" for a path that is used to not "having everything".

For that same reason, I liked that the Quinn help was locked to the DIK MC. I know she isnt considered an LI, even though for me she is the 6th LI and second true DIK LI joining Sage , but it felt good to see the Chick and Neutral paths get cockblocked this time .

PS: Its just an opinion from a Main Full DIK player that just wants equal opportunities and if there is any cockblocking, that cockblocking should be symmetrical

 

[felicemastronzo]

You are totally right in what you said. The problem with my post was that I didnt express correctly what I wanted to express. My point was that Chick and Neutral paths can currently have every LI path open, so I like that the choices between LIs are getting put in the game with a higher frequency. So those MCs actually have a hard time choosing in those situations because they are on the path that "has everything".

I know that the DIK MC has a hard time choosing too, but in the DIK path the MC already faced rejection (even though you can go back and act all tough saying you just want to be friends with M&J ) and he already fucked a good amount of people outside of the LIs, so that choice doesnt mean "that much" for a path that is used to not "having everything".

For that same reason, I liked that the Quinn help was locked to the DIK MC. I know she isnt considered an LI, even though for me she is the 6th LI and second true DIK LI joining Sage , but it felt good to see the Chick and Neutral paths get cockblocked this time .

PS: Its just an opinion from a Main Full DIK player that just wants equal opportunities and if there is any cockblocking, that cockblocking should be symmetrical

exactly

only with Maya + Josy is there a real (and definitive) effect of affinity on the relationship.
for all other LI, affinity or DIK score helps to accumulate more RP, or to unlock some scene or dialogue possibilities.

stop.

you can be Jill's happy future boyfriend by beating up anyone, cheating, drinking and drugs (not even showing up with her dildo helmet has a definitive effect, it only deprives you of a scene)
in the same way you can be the fuckbuddy of the year with Sage with a perfect boy scout behavior

 

[Gladheim]

CyberPunk Jill

 

[Holy Bacchus]

But did the Pirates movie have good acting? Would anyone watch it without the porn scenes? Because I don't find that the porn scenes are the motivation to playing BaDIK. Sure, we all joined for the porn, but many of us have stayed for the story/characters. I've said it before, if the porn scenes were toned down to an R rating, the game would be just as good and may even reach a wider audience. It might lose it's porn audience though...

Without the sex, that movie probably wouldn't have done as well because then it would just be some of the most popular porn stars of the time (Jesse Jane ) in a poorly acted Pirates of the Caribbean parody.

Without the sex in BaDIK, then it's a fairly mediocre college drama and whilst it does have a lot of intrigue in both its overall plot and individual character stories, it's sex scenes and the prospect of what they'll be in each update is what keeps the vast majority of people coming back. Maybe if the script was given over to a professional TV/film writer they could iron out the kinks within the story to make it work better for a live-action format, but then it would have a different sort of appeal for a different audience and wouldn't be as recognisable without the copious amounts of sex scenes.

You keep asserting that any game with explicit sexual content is can only ever be "just" porn, but I see no evidence of that. At most it's a generalized observation based on the fact mainstream XXX movies turned out not to be very profitable and fell by the wayside. You might just as easily claim that any blockbuster can "only" be about special effects because the purpose of a blockbuster is empty spectacle. Spectacle is certainly important to blockbusters, but I don't think it's impossible for someone making a blockbuster to aim higher.

So to adult VNs. Whether any VN succeeds in that ambition is always down to the individual player, but I think it's possible to evaluate the non-porn merits of a game on their own terms. Personally, I think an R-rated cut of BaDIK would have been a worthwhile game had DPC chosen to pursue that route (though I doubt he would have been able to fund it).

That is not what I'm "asserting". There can be explicit sexual content in mainstream console games but that doesn't make them porn games because they weren't built around that sexual content. What I am saying that all the VNs/games on this site, whether they have well-developed stories like in BaDIK, CoBD, Tales from the Unending Void, Leap of Faith, etc, or they have very little in the way of a deep, rich narrative, are porn because they all have sex scenes and the pursuit of said scenes at the very heart of their VN/game because it's extremely likely that all of them, including BaDIK, started out with the dev imagining what sex scenes they could have in their respective VNs/games and building a story from there.

It's not a "generalised obversation" to say that this is a porn game, because it is. Without the explicit sex scenes in this game it wouldn't be the same because it's those sexual relationships, whether casual or building towards something serious, that are what really keep the majority of people coming back. The story is an interesting one and it's engaging, but it wouldn't surprise me if many of those "major moments" that DPC talks about that they've pre-planned are sex scenes and they reverse engineer the events that lead up to it, essentially crafting the story around them.

Calling this is a "porn game" doesn't diminish it in any way and doesn't take away the fact that it has a good story. I very much enjoy it and can get very involved in the minutia of it, as you well know, but I'm not going to act like it's some great literary masterpiece that transcends its genre to become something more and exists in a loftier category. The Dark Knight "aimed higher" but it's still a comic book movie, and BaDIK can aim higher too but it's still a porn game.

 

[ename144]

You are totally right in what you said. The problem with my post was that I didnt express correctly what I wanted to express. My point was that Chick and Neutral paths can currently have every LI path open, so I like that the choices between LIs are getting put in the game with a higher frequency. So those MCs actually have a hard time choosing in those situations because they are on the path that "has everything".

I know that the DIK MC has a hard time choosing too, but in the DIK path the MC already faced rejection (even though you can go back and act all tough saying you just want to be friends with M&J ) and he already fucked a good amount of people outside of the LIs, so that choice doesnt mean "that much" for a path that is used to not "having everything".

For that same reason, I liked that the Quinn help was locked to the DIK MC. I know she isnt considered an LI, even though for me she is the 6th LI and second true DIK LI joining Sage , but it felt good to see the Chick and Neutral paths get cockblocked this time .

PS: Its just an opinion from a Main Full DIK player that just wants equal opportunities and if there is any cockblocking, that cockblocking should be symmetrical

I understand the sentiment, and I agree about Quinn (though it would help if the DIK MC acted differently when treating her than I would expect a CHICK MC to).

But I don't get the impression that the game thinks ditching Sage is DIKish behavior. It seems like that is just supposed to be a choice between girls, with no 'moral' implications one way or the other. It's just

That's what I find so frustrating about the whole Affinity system: I see no coherent logic to why some choices come with a permanent penalty while other choices have no affect whatsoever. In fact, major choices never involve LIs; cheating with Josy or Sage or Bella is a much smaller deal than cheating with Jade, apparently.

 

[shazba]

CyberPunk Jill
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Reminds me of Doc Hamilton for some reason (CoBD). It's by

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of Deviant Art.

 

[Gladheim]

Reminds me of Doc Hamilton for some reason (CoBD). It's by

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The hair

 

[shazba]

The hair

And maybe the visor is doing it for me, Katie always has those cool glasses.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I understand the sentiment, and I agree about Quinn (though it would help if the DIK MC acted differently when treating her than I would expect a CHICK MC to).

But I don't get the impression that the game thinks ditching Sage is DIKish behavior. It seems like that is just supposed to be a choice between girls, with no 'moral' implications one way or the other. It's just

That's what I find so frustrating about the whole Affinity system: I see no coherent logic to why some choices come with a permanent penalty while other choices have no affect whatsoever. In fact, major choices never involve LIs; cheating with Josy or Sage or Bella is a much smaller deal than cheating with Jade, apparently.

the major choices were chosen with a rather Manichean criterion

if Mc fights he is a DIK, either if he slaps a helpless but annoying, Tybalt, or if he defends himself from the sudden aggression of Chad or Tommy.

if he's nice to a "non-friendly" character it's Chick, be it Troy or an unknown student. but the reverse doesn't work, being an asshole with friends is fine, it's tax free

then there are choices that it is sensational enough not to be considered, but anything that is optional does not count

Jade's video? a crime!! does not matter
be the best customer of the restaurant? does not matter
to blame Derek for the incident from the Preps? does not matter

 

[felicemastronzo]

I understand the sentiment, and I agree about Quinn (though it would help if the DIK MC acted differently when treating her than I would expect a CHICK MC to).

But I don't get the impression that the game thinks ditching Sage is DIKish behavior. It seems like that is just supposed to be a choice between girls, with no 'moral' implications one way or the other. It's just

That's what I find so frustrating about the whole Affinity system: I see no coherent logic to why some choices come with a permanent penalty while other choices have no affect whatsoever. In fact, major choices never involve LIs; cheating with Josy or Sage or Bella is a much smaller deal than cheating with Jade, apparently.

the major choices were chosen with a rather Manichean criterion

if Mc fights he is a DIK, either if he slaps a helpless but annoying, Tybalt, or if he defends himself from the sudden aggression of Chad or Tommy.

if he's nice to a "non-friendly" character it's Chick, be him Troy or an unknown student. but the reverse doesn't work, being an asshole with friends is fine, it's tax free

then there are some choices that it is quite sensational are not considered, but everything that is optional does not count (for this reason, in my opinion the decisions concerning the LIs are not linked to Major choices, even if formally MC does not betray any of the LIs)


Jade's video? a crime!! does not matter
be the best customer of the restaurant? does not matter
to blame Derek for the incident from the Preps? does not matter

 

[The Bush Diver]

Dr. Katie Hamilton from CoBD >> Jill

Sorry, #TeamJill

=P

 

[Dashxp4k]

can someone post the official walkthrough foe ep 6?

 

[TotoJackson]

Alright, got it. Here you go boys, the Official Guide/Walkthrough for Season 2, Episode 5 AND 6.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Alright, got it. Here you go boys, the Official Guide for Season 2, Episode 5 AND 6.

It is interestingthat in the guide to refer, within the Maya + Josy relationship, to a Maya centric route or to a Josy centric route ....

breakup coming?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Alright, got it. Here you go boys, the Official Guide for Season 2, Episode 5 AND 6.

Nice.

So, a couple of interesting things in this walkthrough. Firstly, although not entirely unexpected, no specific way to complete the DIK mansion repair, i.e. being told specifically where to spend XP and what tasks to focus on first. A couple of strategies are mentioned, but seems it's still very open-ended and dependent entirely on how the player manages it.

Secondly, a first time mention of a "Maya centric route" and a "Josy centric route" with regards to the throuple relationship.



Really hoping this is just referring to who you could focus most on during the first season and not a sign of things to come in terms of forced individual routes based on who you've done more with should there be a break-up in the relationship. Would really not be a good move by DPC to once again give players a throuple path but to take it away from them without any say in the matter.

Finally, affinity can be locked in after this update as a result of the major choice to take the fake ID Tommy offers the MC.



Going forward, this is going to be interesting for players like myself who are towing the Neutral line because coming in to this update, I was one Major CHICK decision from being CHICK affinity, but I made both choices in favour of DIK which means I'm now one Major DIK decision from being DIK affinty. So the question is, will there still be Major Choices in Ep 7 and beyond and if you're one choice away from either side as I am, will the next choice on your respective side make it permanent? For example, if the first choice of Ep 7 is made in favour of DIK, does that make me permanently DIK?

It's interesting that Neutral isn't mentioned as being an affinity you can be locked in to, so it might be that DPC intends to lock people in to just DIK or CHICK which means the first choice from now, if they continue to exist in Ep 7 and beyond, that puts you on that side will lock you in to it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Nice.

So, a couple of interesting things in this walkthrough. Firstly, although not entirely unexpected, no specific way to complete the DIK mansion repair, i.e. being told specifically where to spend XP and what tasks to focus on first. A couple of strategies are mentioned, but seems it's still very open-ended and dependent entirely on hoe the player manages it.

Secondly, a first time mention of a "Maya centric route" and a "Josy centric route" with regards to the throuple relationship.

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Really hoping this is just referring to who you could focus most on during the first season and not a sign of things to come in terms of forced individual routes based on who you've done more with should there be a break-up in the relationship. Would really not be a good move by DPC to once again give players a throuple path but to take it away from them without any say in the matter.

in reality it refers to two very specific episodes that also came into play for the question of the large bed for three.

referring only to one episode for each girl (and not for example also to whom MC follows after the visit of Josy's father), it seems difficult to me that it can lead to something important.

it would be very ridiculous that Mc was accepted in a 3-way relationship despite not having the same intimacy with both girls (which remains very questionable for me), but that this lack of intimacy would lead to the breakup of the triple

so I would rule it out

 

[moskyx]

Nice.

So, a couple of interesting things in this walkthrough. Firstly, although not entirely unexpected, no specific way to complete the DIK mansion repair, i.e. being told specifically where to spend XP and what tasks to focus on first. A couple of strategies are mentioned, but seems it's still very open-ended and dependent entirely on hoe the player manages it.

Secondly, a first time mention of a "Maya centric route" and a "Josy centric route" with regards to the throuple relationship.

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Really hoping this is just referring to who you could focus most on during the first season and not a sign of things to come in terms of forced individual routes based on who you've done more with should there be a break-up in the relationship. Would really not be a good move by DPC to once again give players a throuple path but to take it away from them without any say in the matter.

Finally, affinity can be locked in after this update as a result of the major choice to take the fake ID Tommy offers the MC.

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Going forward, this is going to be interesting for players like myself who are towing the Neutral line because coming in to this update, I was one Major CHICK decision from being CHICK affinity, but I made both choices in favour of DIK which means I'm now one Major DIK decision from being DIK affinty. So the question is, will there still be Major Choices in Ep 7 and beyond and if you're one choice away from either side as I am, will the next choice on your respective side make it permanent? For example, if the first choice of Ep 7 is made in favour of DIK, does that make me permanently DIK?

It's interesting that Neutral isn't mentioned as being an affinity you can be locked in to, so it might be that DPC intends to lock people in to just DIK or CHICK which means the first choice from now, if they continue to exist in Ep 7 and beyond, that puts you on that side will lock you in to it.

The affinity lock screen was already posted here shortly after the release. You'll be locked on that side of the scale but you could move within.

From the script:

"As a result of your major choices, your affinity cannot be changed from this point."
"The permanent affinity will enable choices that suits your affinity, while limiting choices that go against it."
"Your choices will still affect your DIK score, but you will be locked in on the scale that represent the following statuses:"
if affinity == "DIK": "Massive DIK (+20 to +15 DIK points), Huge DIK (+14 to +10 DIK points), DIK (+9 to +5 DIK points)."
elif affinity == "NEUTRAL": "DIK (+9 to +5 DIK points), NEUTRAL (+4 to -4 DIK points), CHICK (-5 to -9 DIK points)."
else: "CHICK (-5 to -9 DIK points), Huge CHICK (-10 to -14 CHICK points), Massive CHICK (-15 to -20 CHICK points)."

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

It's interesting that Neutral isn't mentioned as being an affinity you can be locked in to, so it might be that DPC intends to lock people in to just DIK or CHICK which means the first choice from now, if they continue to exist in Ep 7 and beyond, that puts you on that side will lock you in to it.

From looking at the code (well, it can change before Episode 7 but whatever), if you have squares on any side you should still be neutral, and we're at least 3 episodes away from being locked into neutral affinity