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Casmyr

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Hello guys, i got a question for you... Not sure if i miss something in my gameplay... Do we know who was the guy in Bella's house? I mean, the he sees when he is drunk and wandering in her house while looking for the couch.
The army guy? Thats just a mannequin
 

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I read that wrong initially too and thought exactly what you're saying, but he's saying she already has "Nice eyes, good bone structure, full lips". So her issues are she's fat with a lousy hairstyle.


Windows XP can do a lotta things. :p


I'm taking the low end of the estimate because that's what you do to get a conservative estimate. You wanna get all hyped up and then disappointed, go ahead and believe an developer's higher end estimate, that's just the real world...

Stating that the development time between progressive episodes is increasing is a fact, no argument from me there.

Stating that the developer's estimates of completion are bullshit when he gave a vague (30-50%) gauge a while back, is unfair.

If you take the highest number from each estimate, it looks like he's struggling:

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If you take the lowest indication, it looks like it's starting to ramp up at the end:

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If you take the mid point of each of his estimates (which would probably be the most sensible thing) there's a slight decrease in productivity near the end:

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I'm not manipulating figures to justify my argument. I'm just not taking the highest possible option and getting worked up over it...
You're fine, Shazzy. Some people just feel the need to get worked up over everything.
 

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I'm taking the low end of the estimate because that's what you do to get a conservative estimate. You wanna get all hyped up and then disappointed, go ahead and believe an developer's higher end estimate, that's just the real world...

Stating that the development time between progressive episodes is increasing is a fact, no argument from me there.

Stating that the developer's estimates of completion are bullshit when he gave a vague (30-50%) gauge a while back, is unfair.
So 30-50% means 30%, 60-75% means 60%... but why even put the higher percentage out there? The fact is that these numbers were never realistic in the first place, but people do get hyped up at the higher numbers (which were ambitious at best and plain false at worse), and DPC is working in an industry where hype=patrons. People may not subscribe if they think a game is 4 months out, but make it seem like it's 6 weeks away and people will sign up. Again, all credit to the game, but the marketing - unrealistic/untruthful numbers and unneccessarily extended release times - is bullshit.

I love the game, but I hate what is becoming of the business model.
 

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Why is the answer of 14 to 20 episodes confusing to you?

I could imagine that DPC has a list of problems and dramas for BaDIK and works through this list step by step.
It's an estimate from DPC because he can't predict exactly how many episodes he needs for the problems and dramas.

Keep in mind that BaDIK is set at the beginning of the first year in college and if DPC wanted to, he could create more problems and dramas and run BaDIK until EP 50.
Speaking for myself, the problem is that a story needs more than just a list of events that happen. The events need to be linked by the actions of the characters, which in turn need to flow from those characters trying to achieve their various goals. Without that web of action the events will only ever be a list, no more emotionally gripping than the roster of candidates for the 2022 Olympic Men's Biathlon.

Now in theory, you can just keep advancing the narrative in an unending chain of events, as is common in soap operas and comic books. The problem, though, is that the characters are (hopefully) striving to fulfill their goals the whole time. So eventually they really ought to succeed (or definitively fail) at that long-standing goal. If they are stuck chasing the same goal endlessly, things will feel stale. But if they finally succeed (or fail), then not only is the goal no longer able to drive their actions, but these characters should be changed in some way by the experience: they just achieved (or are forced to admit they'll never achieve) their life's ambition, after all.

Now a good author can still make this sort of thing work, by allowing characters to evolve and adding/removing characters over time to shake things up. But that's much, much harder than telling a simple story with only the initial set of goals.

Looking at BaDIK, I see plenty of initial goals, but not a lot of opportunity for secondary goals. The only thing that might serve that function is if the MC does adopt a serious relationship with one (or two) of the LIs, and the story then transitions to how things change from their. That would be pretty ambitious, but a lot harder to work in a game that's primarily about cramming in as many lewd scenes as will fit.

So yeah, I'm nervous at the thought of this going much past three seasons.

tl;dr It's hard to keep adding new dramas to a story without the characters growing stale or altering things the audience initially liked about them.


Not really anything to analyze here. No numbers included except 80% done, which is kind of meaningless when you remember that DPC said he was 30-50% two months ago (which was obviously bullshit).
Oh yee of little faith.

As shazba has already pointed out, that was not bullshit. DPC estimated he was 30-50% complete on January 1. As I said at the time, that roughly translated to a 100% complete date between February 26 and May 14. The latest estimate (March 26 to April 2) falls squarely within that time frame. If anything, this makes DPC look consistent (or, more likely, underscores the value of wide error bars).

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So 30-50% means 30%, 60-75% means 60%... but why even put the higher percentage out there? The fact is that these numbers were never realistic in the first place, but people do get hyped up at the higher numbers (which were ambitious at best and plain false at worse), and DPC is working in an industry where hype=patrons. People may not subscribe if they think a game is 4 months out, but make it seem like it's 6 weeks away and people will sign up. Again, all credit to the game, but the marketing - unrealistic/untruthful numbers and unneccessarily extended release times - is bullshit.

I love the game, but I hate what is becoming of the business model.
30-50% means somewhere between 30% and 50%. It's not complicated. If today's estimate winds up being true, back on January 1 we would have been around 39% complete. That's not only between 30% and 50%, it's relatively close to halfway between them.

What exactly are you complaining about here?


Huh never thought about that. She has sex with us on her parent's bed while subsequently cheating on Maya at the same time. Remind me why she chose her parent's bed of all places?
Probably because her own bed was too small for two people to sleep in with any degree of chastity. Josy obviously wanted extremely unchaste things to happen, but I think she needed the fig leaf that things would stay chaste to help her get past the guilt of cheating on Maya.

That's my guess, anyway.


Don't your bosses understand that your porn game charts are more important that any pish they are asking you to do? :giggle:
Hard to say. For some inexplicable reason the topic has never come up. ;)
 
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You know what? , I won't Blame you, it is hard to focus on what is she saying :ROFLMAO:
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I can't make it out. Is she saying "I hope your bigger than Steve

Ok ok truce. Im only salty cuz my bday was yesterday and you said you'd come.

Could anyone see the possibility of steve coming to b&r? I know the rejects already came but like next term?
 
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I can't make it out. Is she saying "I hope your bigger than Steve

Ok ok truce. Im only salty cuz my bday was yesterday and you said you'd come.

Could anyone see the possibility of steve coming to b&r? I know the rejects already came but like next term?
No hurt feelings. but I wonder if I put you in to my ignore list, would you still see my comments? :ROFLMAO::p.
 
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godkingxerxes reminded me in an early comment about Jill's horses.
Imagine if DPC makes like a horse/ranch mini game where you have to feed horses and paint fences
It's like...your literally shoveling horse crap
 

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Could anyone see the possibility of steve coming to b&r? I know the rejects already came but like next term?
Probably - I imagine DPC wouldn't have made a critical choice around Steve if he wasn't going to come back into the story at some point down the road.
 

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Probably - I imagine DPC wouldn't have made a critical choice around Steve if he wasn't going to come back into the story at some point down the road.
This is true. But Hazeti made this good point earlier about this major decision being used to shape the MC's character.
And I kind of like that. But we shall see, it'd be neat though if we got anything from that exchange though like if MC bumps into Steve at some point in the game and we can see him react according to whatever action we took like Troy did when you bump into him at the cafeteria.
 
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